The final episode of Voice of Super for 2025, recorded live at the ASFA Conference, Madeleine Morris speaks to the two winners of ASFA's Future Leaders competition, Dajana Brkic of UniSuper, and Jack Allen of Legal and Prudential. They discuss their winning 'One Super Big Idea' to make super better and talk career paths in superannuation.
10 Dec 2025
Special: Facing the retirement challenge
Recorded live at the ASFA 2025 Conference on the Gold Coast, this special Voice of Super episode features two of the industry’s biggest leaders: Deanne Stewart, CEO of Aware Super, and Kristian Fok, CEO of Cbus Super.
They join host Madeleine Morris to tackle the "demographic wave" facing the sector, with 700,000 Australians expected to retire in the next five years. The conversation unpacks the shift from accumulation to income, the specific challenges facing members in physically demanding trades, and the power of digital guidance tools to boost retiree confidence.
They also debate the "unworkable" friction points in current policy, such as minimum drawdowns and contribution rules, and look ahead to the super landscape of 2035.
4 Dec 2025TRANSCRIPT
Special: An outsider's perspective
Recorded live at the ASFA 2025 Conference on the Gold Coast, this special Voice of Super episode brings former UK Pensions Minister Guy Opperman into conversation with host Madeleine Morris about how to build better retirement outcomes.
They unpack the UK’s Mid-Life MOT, the shift to more guided decumulation and targeted support, and what Australia can learn as super funds help members turn lump sums into sustainable retirement incomes. Guy also shares his take on global pension trends and the growing UK–Australia partnership on long-term investment and infrastructure.
19 Nov 2025TRANSCRIPT
Special: How will Aussie millennials retire?
A special Voice of Super episode recorded on the floor of the 2025 ASFA Conference.
Demographer Simon Kuestenmacher joins ASFA’s Madeleine Morris to unpack why he calls millennials "The Struggling Generation". He explores what lies ahead for a cohort of Australians facing stagnant wage growth, a shrinking middle class, shaky housing security, and a tougher long-term wealth outlook.
29 Oct 2025TRANSCRIPT
Episode 12
We are rightly super proud of our superannuation system in Australia. So how come it's 7th on the Mercer CFA Institute Global Pension Index? And what do the countries ahead of us do differently?
In this week's Voice of Super podcast, we talk to Tim Jenkins who is the Index's lead author. This year, it rates and ranks 52 retirement systems worldwide.
19 Oct 2025TRANSCRIPT
Voice of Super Episode 11: Winning
Mary and guests celebrate some reason advocacy wins for ASFA and the superannuation sector. They take a look at Payday Super and the enhanced Low Income Superannuation Tax Offset (LISTO), asking what these developments mean for Australians, and whether super funds are ready for them. Mary is joined by Anne Fuchs from ART, Enrico Burgio from Rest Super, and new ASFA team member Maureen Daley.
1 Oct 2025TRANSCRIPT
Voice of Super Episode 10: Retirement research roundup
ASFA, AMP, and Vanguard have all recently released research about the state of Australian retirement. Are retirees feeling under or overconfident about retirement? And what explains gaps between expectations and reality?
ASFA's Head of Policy and Advocacy, James Koval, chats to AMP's Director Retirement, Ben Hillier, and Dr Sophie Yan, ASFA Research Analyst.
17 Sept 2025
Voice of Super Episode 9: Measuring What Matters
Mary chats to the Lowy Institute and ANU's Dr Jenny Gordon about the Measuring What Matters framework. Why does measuring activity traditionally excluded from GDP - including unpaid care work - matter for retirees and for investors?
3 Sept 2025TRANSCRIPT
Voice of Super Episode 8: Roundtable roundup
This week, we go inside the Treasurer's Economic Reform Roundtable with renowned independent economist Chris Richardson, who was in the room for the crucial tax reform discussions. And yes, he really did call it "Canberra Coachella".
Chris joins Mary to deliver some home truths about Australia's economic performance and what it means for our taxation and superannuation systems. With Australia's living standards growth lagging dramatically behind other developed nations, the need for reform has never been greater.
20 Aug 2025TRANSCRIPT
Voice of Super Episode 7: Investing for a productive future
BlackRock's Head of Australasia, Jason Collins, joins Mary to discuss the asset manager's thinking on retirement savings, the evolution of super fund internalisation, infrastructure funding gaps, and how asset managers and super funds can work together to drive Australia's productivity agenda.
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6 Aug 2025TRANSCRIPT
Voice of Super Episode #6: Investing in a time of volatility
Two highly anticipated speakers at the upcoming ASFA Investment Summit, legalsuper CIO Andrew Lill and IFM's Marigold Look share their insights on investing in a time of volatility with ASFA CEO Mary Delahunty. Liberation Day, data centres, why Marigold isn't backing away from renewables, how Andrew's boutique fund managed to smash the returns charts - it's all on the table. Tickets for the Investment Summit are available here: Investment Summit 2025 - ASFA (https://www.superannuation.asn.au/event/investment-summit-2025/)
23 Jul 2025TRANSCRIPT
Voice of Super Episode 5: Uplifting Service in Super
Service in superannuation has become a key focus for regulators, media and members, as super moves beyond simply being a place to grow retirement savings, into a bigger role in Australians' financial wellbeing. Super veteran and former chair of the Superannuation Complaints Tribunal, Jocelyn Furlan, joins Rest's Chief Service Officer Brendan Daly and ASFA's Madeleine Morris for a frank discussion about what we are doing, and what we need to do better.
9 Jul 2025TRANSCRIPT
Voice of Super Episode 4: Exclusive interview with MUFG
Eoin Burke, Head of Financial Crime at MUFG Pension and Market Services, discusses cyber incident lessons, the value of shielded accounts, and the future of identity verification with host Mary in this interview.
25 Jun 2025TRANSCRIPT
Voice of Super Episode 3: Lessons from the banking sector
Anna Bligh, former Queensland Premier, discusses with Mary Delahunty the critical lessons from the banking sector, emphasizing trust and customer expectations, in this interview episode.
11 Jun 2025TRANSCRIPT
Voice of Super episode 2: Insights from the UK’s Mansion House Accord
Zoe Alexander explains the UK's Mansion House Accord, which mandates UK funds to invest in domestic private markets, and Mary Delahunty interviews her about its impact on fiduciary duty and government support.
28 May 2025TRANSCRIPT
Voice of Super Episode 1: How Australians feel about superannuation
RedBridge Research Director Simon Welsh discusses with ASFA CEO Mary Delahunty Australians' attitudes toward superannuation, revealing high trust levels and areas needing improvement in this interview episode.
1 May 2025TRANSCRIPT
ASFA's launching a podcast!
ASFA CEO Mary Delahunty introduces the new "Voice of Super" podcast, which explores the dynamic Australian superannuation industry and its impact on workers and stakeholders, offering timely insights on investment, policy, and customer service.
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Special: Superannuation's future leaders
Published 17 Dec 2025 · Transcript excerpt
[…] And you two won, though. And part of your prize was you got to present on the main stage at the conference, your one super big idea. So let's hear it. Let's hear it. Dana, what was your one super big idea for a previous? My big idea was quite simple, I think. It was to make a superannuation a part of the official immigration and settlement process and really educate those early on, you know. Everyone gets a tax funnel, but everyone gets a Medicare card, everyone, you know, opens a bank account. Why is there no super in the conversation, you know? My parents came here, there was no one, it's annual super, you know, barely were making it day by day. […]
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