Waiting with Love

About Waiting with Love

Waiting with Love is a fellowship-style podcast for couples, parents-to-be, and anyone living in the long, uncertain wait for something deeply hoped for. Hosted by Andrew and Matt, the show explores adoption, surrogacy, IVF, infertility, grief, patience, and hope - without advice, fixes, or formulas. This is not therapy. It's a shared space to sit in the messy middle, tell the truth about waiting, and find ways to hope with love, together.

Publisher

Hopeful Dads

Category

health & fitness · kids & family

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

11 Jan 2026

Latest episode

17 May 2026

Latest episodes

19 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   17 May 2026

   Episode 18: Still Waiting - A Check-In

   Waiting with Love: A Check In In this episode, Matt and Andrew open up about their ongoing surrogacy journey, the challenges of waiting for important updates, and how they stay grounded amidst uncertainty. They share personal reflections, coping strategies, and insights learned along the way—offering comfort and solidarity to anyone navigating a similar waiting game. Key Topics: The emotional rollercoaster of waiting for critical updates Ways to manage anxiety during prolonged periods of uncertainty How routine activities and outside time help cope with stress Communication habits and control over how and when to receive news Celebrating small wins and maintaining healthy habits despite setbacks The importance of awareness of personal and partner reactions to waiting Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to the episode and the significance of sharing their journey 01:17 - Initial check-in: reflections after several months of podcasting 02:38 - Approaching the surrogacy process with patience and understanding 04:21 - How producing the podcast has improved efficiency and mood 05:07 - The latest update waiting game: managing expectations and anxiety 07:25 - The Sunday Scaries and the impact of waiting during the workweek 08:21 - The hope and fear associated with positive news 09:32 - Differing approaches: planning versus improvising in life and this journey 10:41 - How outside activities like yard work and fires aid emotional resilience 11:49 - Dealing with anxious nights and the importance of routine 13:04 - Distinct anxieties during the workweek versus weekends 15:13 - The obsession with updates and the irrational game of waiting 16:47 - Strategies like time blocking to control the flow of information 17:11 - Controlling the way they receive updates to reduce anxiety 18:14 - How communication patterns reflect their emotional states 19:13 - The vivid imaginations and worst-case scenarios in anxious moments 20:05 - Recognizing the factors out of their control and focusing on what they can influence 22:37 - Celebrating progress: healthier habits compared to earlier coping methods 23:36 - The ongoing effort to maintain constructive routines during long waits 24:45 - How awareness of habits and reactions helps sustain mental health 25:17 - Lighthearted story about their first date and humor in the journey 25:41 - Closing remarks: sharing the episode and connecting with others Connect with Matt & Andrew: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/waiting_withlove) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61585969594908) TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@waitingwithlove) YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@WaitingWithLove) Resources & Links: Waiting With Love Website (https://www.waitingwithlove.com/) Out and Abroad Luxury Travel & Blog (http://www.out-abroad.com) Special Mention: There is no major announcement in this episode, but we continue to share our journey and insights.

2. 

   10 May 2026

   Episode 17: Why Travel Planning is so Hard While Waiti

   In this episode, Matt and Andrew explore how to manage travel plans amidst the unpredictability of fertility treatments like surrogacy and IVF. They share personal insights, practical tips, and emotional strategies to help others navigate this complex terrain while still living their lives and creating meaningful memories. Key Topics: The emotional impact of delaying or adjusting travel plans during fertility treatments How financial milestones and unpredictable timelines influence travel decisions Strategies for booking refundable trips and hotels to maintain flexibility Timing travel around pregnancy milestones and medical procedures The importance of having a mental “placeholder” trip to stay hopeful Balancing logistical challenges with the desire to live fully during waiting periods Practical tips for booking flights and accommodations with cancellations in mind The significance of choosing shorter, local trips versus long-haul vacations for flexibility How setbacks in fertility journeys can sometimes open opportunities for meaningful travel The role of control and uncertainty in planning big purchases or life changes during waiting Timestamps: 00:00 - Welcome and introduction: Navigating waiting with hope 00:48 - The challenges of planning travel during fertility treatments 03:09 - The impact of large payments and unpredictable success on travel decisions 06:14 - Identifying travel windows around pregnancy milestones 08:44 - The importance of flexible bookings and cancellation policies 11:16 - Planning trips with purpose: visiting loved ones before due dates 13:17 - The emotional value of having trips on the calendar 16:32 - Using trips as emotional “exit strategies” 18:44 - How setbacks In fertility can create opportunities for meaningful travel 20:08 - Practical tips for booking refundable flights and hotels 22:09 - Prioritizing flexibility and local trips amid uncertainty 24:22 - The importance of control and adapting plans during emotionally charged times 26:25 - Reflecting on financial priorities and meaningful moments over material things 27:45 - Final thoughts: Living fully despite the unpredictability Connect with Matt & Andrew: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/waiting_withlove) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61585969594908) TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@waitingwithlove) YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@WaitingWithLove) Resources & Links: Waiting With Love Website (www.waitingwithlove.com) Out and Abroad Luxury Travel & Blog (http://www.out-abroad.com)

3. 

   3 May 2026

   Episode 16: Does Waiting Ever "Settle?"

   Waiting With Love: Does the Wait Ever Get Easier? On this episode of Waiting With Love, hosts Matt and Andrew explore the realities of long-term waiting—how, despite perceptions, it doesn’t necessarily get easier over time. They share personal insights, common misconceptions, and practical strategies for navigating the emotional rollercoaster of waiting, especially in the context of fertility and adoption journeys. Core Topics: The myth that waiting improves with time and the reality that expectations often shift How constant anxiety manifests in checking emails and phone calls during the surrogacy process The role of patience, grace, and understanding within the support system of agencies and clinics The irrational fears and "rabbit holes" anxiety can lead to during extended waiting periods Timestamps 00:00 - Introducing the podcast's purpose and the theme of waiting 00:49 - Addressing the misconception that waiting gets easier over time 01:17 - Personal experiences of coping with ongoing waiting 01:46 - How waiting can worsen or improve coping depending on circumstances 02:06 - The constant checking and high alertness during surrogacy and adoption 03:48 - Differences between adoption and surrogacy communication 04:17 - The role of patience and setting expectations during long waits 06:40 - Living in a constant state of fear and the unpredictability of updates 07:48 - Living with uncertainty during moments of scheduled but delayed updates 09:09 - The importance of extending grace to agencies and clinics 10:16 - The misconception that delays mean inactivity or stagnation 11:15 - Surprising aspects of long waiting periods and what remains hidden to outsiders 13:09 - The emotional toll of expecting news on specific days 14:40 - The timeline of embryo creation and waiting for results 16:10 - The difficulty of not being caught off guard by unexpected update timings 17:02 - Faith, hope, and personal coping strategies in waiting 18:12 - The significance of recognizing that waiting energy can be drained but manageable 19:09 - How anticipation influences emotional exhaustion 20:24 - The impact of good communication with a birth mother during adoption vs. surrogacy 22:36 - The controlled environment of surrogacy versus traditional conception anxiety 24:29 - The importance of keeping busy and the effect on wait times 25:45 - The emotional impact of being separated during busy periods 27:06 - Irrational fears and the rabbit holes of anxiety 28:03 - Encouragement for listeners: you’re not alone in this journey 29:21 - Recognizing patterns in timing and managing expectations 29:43 - Closing thoughts and the reminder to keep waiting with love Connect with Matt & Andrew: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/waiting_withlove) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61585969594908) TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@waitingwithlove) YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@WaitingWithLove) Resources & Links: Waiting With Love Website (https://www.waitingwithlove.com/) Out and Abroad Luxury Travel & Blog (http://www.out-abroad.com)

4. 

   26 Apr 2026

   Episode 15: Infertility - Why Not Us?

   Rethinking Infertility: The Challenges Facing Gay Men in Family Building In this episode, Matt and Andrew explore a thought-provoking article on the conception of infertility within the gay community. They discuss the legal, financial, and emotional barriers that make family formation a complex reality for same-sex couples, highlighting the need for systemic change. Main Topics: How the definition of infertility varies and excludes gay men Financial and insurance hurdles for LGBTQ+ family building The emotional toll and privilege associated with pursuing parenthood The potential influence of lawsuits challenging discriminatory definitions In this episode: The surprising connection between infertility and same-sex parenthood How insurance policies often fail to support gay couples The significance of the New York lawsuit aiming to redefine infertility laws Real-life implications and the high costs of surrogacy and IVF The broader societal conversation around reproductive rights and equality Timestamps: 00:00 - Welcome and episode overview: Challenging traditional notions of infertility 01:04 - The article from Cosmopolitan and its relevance to LGBTQ+ family building 02:17 - The premise that gay men are viewed as infertile and its implications 03:22 - Biological aspects of infertility and the article’s arguments 04:50 - Limitations of insurance coverage for same-sex couples 05:18 - The high costs of fertility treatments like IVF and surrogacy 06:45 - State laws and their influence on fertility benefits and access 07:12 - How current definitions exclude and disadvantage gay men 08:12 - The lawsuit in New York and its potential to change laws 09:40 - Out-of-pocket expenses and the financial burden for gay couples 10:33 - The societal perception of infertility and economic barriers 12:23 - The privilege of trying to build a family despite financial hurdles 13:02 - Clarifying assumptions about biological parenthood in same-sex relationships 14:01 - The legal landscape: Lawsuits fighting discrimination in fertility laws 15:14 - State-specific restrictions and their impact on insurance coverage 16:45 - Differences in coverage in Maryland and Arkansas discussed 17:44 - The significance of legal wins and how they could influence national policy 19:22 - The slow pace of legal and systemic change, and the importance of advocacy 20:10 - Personal reflections on the privilege and emotional toll of the fertility journey 21:46 - The need for systemic support and the emotional weight of waiting 22:39 - Reflections on societal perceptions of infertility and family rights 23:42 - The importance of ongoing legal battles and potential future changes 28:14 - Final thoughts on the systemic inequities faced by gay men and the call for advocacy Connect with Matt & Andrew: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/waiting_withlove) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61585969594908) TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@waitingwithlove) YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@WaitingWithLove) Resources & Links: Waiting With Love Website (https://www.waitingwithlove.com/) Out and Abroad Luxury Travel & Blog (http://www.out-abroad.com)

5. 

   19 Apr 2026

   Episode 14: The Logistics of International Surrogacy

   Navigating International Surrogacy: The Logistics Behind the Journey In this episode, Matt and Andrew peel back the curtain on the complex, often overlooked logistics of international surrogacy. From legal hurdles, cross-country coordination, to the emotional weight of waiting, they share their real-world experience navigating this intricate process—highlighting why patience, understanding, and systemic awareness are crucial. Main Topics: The multi-country logistical challenges of international surrogacy The roles and coordination of agencies, clinics, legal teams, and surrogates How time zones, holidays, and government processes impact communication and delays Emotional toll and expectations during waiting periods for medical updates and legal steps Common misconceptions about surrogacy costs and processes in popular culture The importance of systemic transparency and understanding the process's complexity Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction: The messiness and hope in waiting for family-building 01:19 - Surrogacy in multiple countries: logistics and complexity 02:40 - Clarifying our experience and limits of expertise 04:05 - The roles of agencies, clinics, legal teams, and the international project plan 05:58 - The costs and misconceptions around international surrogacy 07:12 - Communication delays across different countries and time zones 08:41 - The systemic delays in receiving medical and legal updates 09:35 - Emotional impact of waiting for test results and news 10:39 - Real-world example of cross-country communication delays 12:06 - The impact of non-urgent medical decisions and global holidays on timing 14:02 - The process of bringing a baby home from another country 16:30 - The emotional and logistical realities of waiting for pregnancy confirmation 18:55 - Additional layers of complexity: travel, legal, and government hurdles 21:06 - Parental leave and international logistics post-birth 23:50 - The systemic design: why the process isn't quick or simple 27:22 - The scientific and medical complexity of making a baby via surrogacy 28:39 - Living with the uncertainty and waiting for news 30:11 - Closing thoughts: resilience and hope in the waiting process This episode emphasizes the systemic and logistical layers behind international surrogacy, illustrating why delays and uncertainties are often beyond individual control. It advocates for empathy and patience in understanding this complicated process that many hopeful parents navigate with resilience. Connect with Matt & Andrew: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/waiting_withlove) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61585969594908) TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@waitingwithlove) YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@WaitingWithLove) Resources & Links: Waiting With Love Website (https://www.waitingwithlove.com/) Out and Abroad Luxury Travel & Blog (http://www.out-abroad.com) The Power of Hope in Difficult Times (https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-moment) Special Mention: If this episode resonates, please share it with someone, and visit our website for more info and support.

6. 

   12 Apr 2026

   Episode 13: Waiting in the "What if it Works?" Headspace

   Navigating Hope and Fear in the Waiting Season In this episode of Waiting with Love, Matt and Andrew explore the complex emotions that come with waiting for life-changing news—whether it's for a child, a medical breakthrough, or other long-held dreams. They discuss how moments of good news spark hope, but also bring a wave of fear, and share personal stories that highlight the delicate balance of excitement and caution. Main Topics: The emotional rollercoaster of hope and fear during fertility and adoption journeys The significance of small moments of joy and anticipation amid uncertainty Strategies for balancing optimism with realistic expectations How lengthening wait-times influence mental health and decision-making The role of logistics and small purchases in maintaining hope without emotional overwhelm Key Insights: The first hopeful moments, like matching with a birth mother or embryo quality reports, create fleeting but powerful feelings of possibility Past experiences often cast a shadow of cautious hope, making full excitement feel unsafe Practical decisions, such as buying small keepsakes or planning future moves, serve as anchors of hope and tangible steps toward eventual parenthood The importance of setting boundaries about sharing good news to manage anxiety Timestamps: 00:00 - Welcome and introduction to waiting and hope 02:16 - The challenge of balancing hope with fear during good news moments 03:37 - Personal stories of moments when hope felt real and fleeting 05:03 - Reflecting on the emotional impact of adoption and fertility news 07:06 - Guarded hope vs. unguarded hope: past experiences and current mindset 09:16 - How tools can help level expectations and manage excitement 10:31 - The significance of small purchases and symbolic tokens in hope management 12:05 - The different emotional states when buying nursery items pre-pregnancy 14:04 - Moving to Maine as a symbol of future family planning 15:43 - The evolution of their beliefs about parenthood and readiness 18:38 - Strategies for balancing hope and patience over a long waiting period 20:26 - Handling excitement vs. fear in ongoing fertility journeys 22:17 - The importance of keeping good news private to reduce pressure 23:34 - How logistics and small decisions support hope without leading to heartbreak 24:49 - The difference between hope and anxiety, and finding balance 26:51 - The importance of enjoying life even amid uncertainty 28:19 - Final thoughts on the journey ahead and maintaining hope Connect with Matt & Andrew: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/waiting_withlove) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61585969594908) TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@waitingwithlove) YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@WaitingWithLove) Resources & Links: Waiting With Love Website (https://www.waitingwithlove.com/) Out and Abroad Luxury Travel & Blog (http://www.out-abroad.com) The Power of Hope in Difficult Times (https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-moment)

7. 

   5 Apr 2026

   Episode 12: Who Isn't Here?

   Waiting with Love: Exploring LGBTQ+ Family Building, Challenges, and Community In this open and transparent episode, hosts Matt and Andrew share their personal journey of navigating family building as a same-sex couple, and the surprising dynamics they've observed within their community and beyond. They emphasize the importance of shared experiences, vulnerability, and creating safe spaces for everyone on this path. Key Topics: The initial motivations behind starting "Waiting with Love" and addressing the lack of LGBTQ+ family-building resources Unexpected audience demographics: straight couples and single women finding relevance in their journey The emotional and physical challenges of surrogacy, IVF, and adoption experiences The social media landscape: over-competition, the "highlight reel," and the culture of coming out repeatedly Why many LGBTQ+ individuals and couples remain silent about their struggles with fertility and family building The importance of vulnerability and creating a community where people can wait and process at their own pace Reflection on societal norms, the need for patience, and fostering inclusive environments for family-building conversations Timestamps: 00:00 - Welcome and episode overview: Embracing the messy journey of waiting 02:10 - Unexpected audience demographics and their implications 05:28 - Reacting to the surprising engagement patterns of straight couples and singles 09:13 - Insights on surrogacy, egg donation, and the human side of fertility journeys 12:25 - Recognizing the emotional weight of waiting for news and treatment outcomes 15:15 - Why the LGBTQ+ community is quieter about its fertility challenges 20:01 - The impact of social media culture and the need for vulnerability 21:59 - The recurring theme of coming out, questioning, and navigating societal expectations 25:00 - Reflecting on past assumptions and the journey to build community 27:25 - Creating safe spaces for silent struggles and readiness to engage 28:29 - Closing thoughts: You are not alone, and waiting with love is the way forward Connect with Matt & Andrew: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/waiting_withlove) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61585969594908) TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@waitingwithlove) YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@WaitingWithLove) Resources & Links: Waiting With Love Website (https://www.waitingwithlove.com/) Out and Abroad Luxury Travel & Blog (http://www.out-abroad.com) Special Mention: If this episode resonates, please share it with someone who might need reassurance they're not alone, and visit our website for more info and support.

8. 

   29 Mar 2026

   Episode 11: Finding Joy in the Waiting Room

   Finding Joy in the Waiting Room In this heartfelt episode, Matt and Andrew share their personal journey of waiting, surprise, and finding joy alongside grief. They discuss how unexpected moments, like a surprise visit from a loved one, can reshape our perspective and deepen connections even amid uncertainty. In this episode: The significance of showing up and finding joy while waiting, especially during long periods of uncertainty How a surprise reunion in Italy transformed a milestone birthday and redefined family bonds The importance of living in the present rather than solely focusing on future hopes Reflections on how life's meaningful moments happen unexpectedly and are worth embracing Balancing grief and joy simultaneously without canceling out either Lessons learned about living fully through shared experiences, meals, and deep conversations The role of community, connection, and intentional presence in navigating infertility and waiting The idea of creating "pockets" of memorable moments that define a year Encouragement to enjoy life now, even while in the waiting room Timestamps: 00:00 - Welcome and introduction to the theme of joy amid waiting 00:48 - Sharing personal background and recent milestones 01:53 - The impact of surprise visits and family connections 02:23 - How joy persists during times of heavy grief 03:07 - Andrew recounts planning a surprise trip to Italy 04:37 - The emotional moment of the surprise reunion in Italy 05:51 - Embracing family and belonging beyond biological ties 07:04 - Holding grief and joy at the same time 08:04 - Managing anxiety and the temptation to constantly check for updates 09:28 - Reflecting on the past decade and lessons learned 10:38 - The importance of savoring unexpected joys 12:20 - How fertility windows influence travel and life decisions 13:11 - The significance of meaningful conversations in deepening bonds 14:39 - The power of shared meals and simple moments 15:59 - Insights from Tuscany and cultural reflections 19:31 - Realizing life's moments are more about how we live than waiting for a future event 22:24 - The importance of appreciating life now, regardless of waiting 24:20 - Recognizing the blessings amid struggles and setbacks 25:39 - The value of core memories and living fully in the moment 26:31 - The concept that while waiting continues, joy can be experienced in everyday life 27:30 - Celebrating the unexpected and deeply meaningful human connections 28:23 - Closing thoughts and encouragement to keep waiting with love Resources & Links: Waiting With Love Website (https://www.waitingwithlove.com/) Out and Abroad Luxury Travel & Blog (http://www.out-abroad.com/) Connect with Matt & Andrew: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/waiting_withlove) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61585969594908) TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@waitingwithlove) YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@WaitingWithLove) Remember, the journey to parenthood is unique for everyone. Embrace the timing that feels right for you, and find hope in each step forward.

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   22 Mar 2026

   Episode 10: When Good News Doesn't Feel "Good"

   When Good News Starts Feeling Less Good: Navigating "Good news" in Adoption, Surrogacy and IVF In this episode, Matt and Andrew share their personal journey through adoption and surrogacy, exploring how their perception of good news has evolved over a lengthy, often challenging process. They discuss emotional resilience, managing expectations, and the balance between hope and caution, providing insights for anyone facing similar uncertainties. Key topics: The emotional rollercoaster of adoption and surrogacy journeys How good news can begin to feel less exciting over time The impact of social media on perceptions of pregnancy and parenthood Managing excitement and fear simultaneously The importance of balancing hope with caution Differences in processing positive updates in complicated fertility journeys Common fears and societal pressures in pregnancy and fertility The role of community, sharing, and vulnerability in coping Practical ways to handle good news without diminishing genuine joy The influence of history and human evolution on our perceptions of pregnancy risks Timestamps: 00:00 - Welcome and episode overview: navigating hope and disappointment 02:05 - How the fertility and adoption journey shifts perspectives on good news 03:25 - Reliving initial moments of joy amidst setbacks 04:46 - The psychological effects of repeated disappointments 05:44 - Managing risk and hope early in the adoption process 07:16 - The control and unpredictability in surrogacy and adoption 08:59 - How social media amplifies pregnancy joy and pressures 11:37 - The historical context of pregnancy risks throughout human history 12:36 - Social media’s portrayal of perfect pregnancies and its impact 13:06 - The shared experiences of fertility struggles within communities 14:37 - Holding back excitement: personal strategies and shared experiences 15:01 - The emotional toll of multiple adoption setbacks 16:15 - Anticipation versus defensive detachment in preparing for parenthood 17:50 - Finding a healthy middle ground in celebrating milestones 19:35 - How to process good news today: practical tips 20:16 - Navigating emotional tensions within relationships during waiting periods 21:38 - Shifting personal approaches to handling good news 22:31 - The importance of staying present and grounded 24:17 - Recognizing that pregnancy, historically, has always been challenging 25:36 - Emphasizing that there’s no right or wrong way to feel or act 26:36 - The role of small, no-regret decisions early in pregnancy 27:16 - Encouragement to embrace authentic emotions without guilt 27:47 - Wrapping up: encouragement for all in the waiting journey Resources & Links: Waiting With Love Website (https://www.waitingwithlove.com/) Connect with Matt & Andrew: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/waiting_withlove) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61585969594908) TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@waitingwithlove) YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@WaitingWithLove)

10. 

    15 Mar 2026

    Episode 9: Questions we Love to Hate (Part 2)

    Understanding the Emotional Landscape of Waiting for Parenthood: Support, Questions and Compassion In this episode of Waiting with Love, Matt and Andrew delve into the often challenging questions and comments they encounter while navigating infertility, surrogacy, and adoption. They offer insights on how friends and family can provide meaningful support without causing inadvertent hurt, emphasizing the importance of empathy, patience, and listening. Main Topics Covered: The impact of insensitive questions about infertility and surrogacy How to support loved ones going through the wait for parenthood The real costs and emotional toll of assisted reproductive technologies Navigating common misconceptions and stereotypes about same-sex and single-parent families Practical advice on how friends can listen better and avoid harmful assumptions Personal stories illustrating the deep longing and sacrifice involved in their journey Why some questions are deeply inappropriate, and how to approach conversations with compassion Timestamps (0:01) – Welcome and introduction to the space of waiting and shared experience (1:01) – Discussing insensitive questions about the process and future hopes (2:10) – Addressing common misconceptions about travel, finances, and life while waiting (4:31) – The emotional toll behind assumptions and superficial comments (8:28) – The true costs of fertility treatments and surrogacy—beyond money (11:24) – Navigating invasive questions about parental roles and identity (17:02) – How to explain a non-traditional family structure to a child (19:23) – Balancing work, career, and the waiting process (23:32) – Support strategies for friends and loved ones (25:12) – Encouraging open communication and resources for both supporters and those waiting (26:11) – Closing thoughts and ways to connect with the community Resources & Links: Waiting with Love Website & Substack (https://www.waitingwithlove.com/) Supporting Someone Through Infertility (Guide) (https://waitingwithlove.com/supporting) Book: The Boy Crisis by Warren Farrell (amazon) (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=The+Boy+Crisis+Warren+Farrell) Connect with Matt & Andrew: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/waiting_withlove) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61585969594908) TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@waitingwithlove) YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@WaitingWithLove) Remember, listening with compassion and offering support without judgment can make a significant difference in the lives of those navigating complex paths to parenthood. Your kindness and understanding matter more than you realize.

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    8 Mar 2026

    Episode 8: Reflecting on Life at 40

    Embracing Parenthood and Hope at 40: A Conversation on Waiting, Growth, and New Beginnings In this heartfelt episode, Matt and Andrew reflect on navigating the journey to parenthood later in life, turning 40, and finding hope and strength in the process of waiting. They share personal insights, challenges, and the many benefits of becoming parents at this stage, offering encouragement to others walking a similar path. Key Topics: The emotional and practical realities of waiting to become parents over 40 How life experiences and maturity shape parenting readiness The impact of career stability and financial planning on delaying parenthood The significance of living in the moment versus future expectations How aging influences perspectives on longevity, energy, and relationships The benefits of patience, resilience, and emotional depth gained through life's trials Celebrating the unpredictability of life and embracing change Famous examples of having children after 40 to inspire hope Timestamps: 00:00 - Welcome and introduction to the episode's theme of waiting and hope 02:10 - Reflections on life milestones and expectations at age 40 03:26 - Comparing visions of life 20 and 10 years ago 04:16 - Challenges and surprises in the parenthood journey 05:54 - Career trajectories and their influence on family planning 07:11 - Perspectives on mortality and aging in midlife 08:36 - Fears around energy and longevity for new parents 09:54 - The emotional and financial advantages of waiting 11:33 - Personal growth, patience, and resilience through challenges 13:21 - Building a stable future for children and the role of finances 15:17 - The value of living in the present and appreciating current moments 16:36 - How age influences energy levels and opportunities for play 18:10 - The importance of community, safety, and environment for raising kids 19:08 - How late parenthood can be advantageous financially and professionally 21:01 - Celebrating mutual career stability and readiness 22:49 - Insights on why the timing now feels right for parenthood 23:35 - Advice to younger selves: focusing on authentic happiness over impressing others 24:24 - The qualities that age and experience contribute to parenting 25:39 - Personal growth from fostering patience and genuine connections 26:34 - The profound impact of being present for children and family 27:47 - Recognizing that imperfection is part of the journey and embracing it 29:04 - Spotlight on celebrities who became parents after 40 29:21 - Wishing Matt a happy birthday and closing encouragement Resources & Links: Waiting With Love Website (https://www.waitingwithlove.com/) Connect with Matt & Andrew: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/waiting_withlove) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61585969594908) TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@waitingwithlove) YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@WaitingWithLove) Remember, the journey to parenthood is unique for everyone. Embrace the timing that feels right for you, and find hope in each step forward.

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    1 Mar 2026

    Episode 7: Questions we Love to Hate (Part 1)

    Navigating Inconsiderate Questions During Fertility and Adoption Journeys In this episode, Matt and Andrew shed light on the common questions friends and family ask that can unintentionally hurt those going through infertility, surrogacy or adoption. They offer practical, compassionate alternatives to foster understanding and support. Key Topics The impact of questions like "Any updates?" and why they can feel invasive How presuming progress or timing can add emotional strain The importance of silence and space vs. rigorous questioning Why questions about "how long" or "why so long" may reflect lack of understanding Shifting from questions to supportive statements and affirmations Practical ways to show up compassionately without pressure The significance of understanding legal, medical, and emotional complexities behind fertility processes How to foster genuine connection through empathetic communication Timestamps 00:00 - Introduction: The importance of thoughtful questions during waiting periods 00:45 - Why "Any updates?" can feel dismissive or invasive 02:15 - Presumptive questions and their emotional toll 03:45 - Alternatives to invasive questions: how to show support 05:30 - The role of silence and space in conversations about infertility 07:45 - Why "why is it taking so long?" misses the complexity 09:50 - Questions about agency quality and perceived incompetency 11:30 - Managing questions about how many tries or when to stop 13:10 - The importance of understanding legal and medical processes behind surrogacy and adoption 15:00 - Reframing questions into supportive statements 16:20 - Recognizing the emotional fragility behind these inquiries 17:45 - How to genuinely support someone without adding pressure 19:50 - Summary: The power of statements over questions 21:00 - Final thoughts: Offer presence, space, and empathy instead of problem-solving 27:20 - Closing remarks: The value of warmth and understanding in supporting loved ones Resources & Links Waiting With Love Community (www.waitingwithlove.com) Understanding Surrogacy Law (https://www.aphroditewomenshealth.com/surrogacy-law-guide) (example link for context) Emotional Support & Fertility Resources (https://www.resolve.org/support) Connect with Matt & Andrew: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/waiting_withlove) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61585969594908) TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@waitingwithlove) YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@WaitingWithLove) Remember, the most meaningful support comes from offering understanding, space, and compassion. Instead of questions, consider statements that validate feelings and show genuine care.

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    22 Feb 2026

    Episode 6: Why Traditional Advice Falls Flat

    In this episode of "Waiting with Love," Matt and Andrew explore the emotional landscape of long-term infertility and the importance of community, fellowship, and shared experience. They discuss the limitations of conventional advice and highlight the power of compassion, laughter, and authentic connection in navigating challenging journeys. KEY TOPICS The impact of unsolicited and superficial advice during infertility struggles The importance of fellowship and shared experiences in emotional resilience The role of laughter, validation, and non-judgmental support Navigating logistical stresses and emotional rollercoasters in international surrogacy How honest conversations and connection reduce feelings of isolation The significance of accepting what cannot be changed and focusing on what can The benefits of meditation, spiritual moments, and grounding practices Encouragement to prioritize genuine support over well-meaning but unhelpful questions TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Welcome and overview of navigating waiting with hope and community 01:09 - Differentiating advice from genuine fellowship and understanding 02:09 - Why traditional advice often falls flat in difficult journeys 03:23 - The frustration of unanswered questions about fertility setbacks 04:18 - Parallels between building a house and the fertility process 05:41 - The comfort found in fellowship with others who understand 07:19 - The power of shared stories and normalization in community 08:40 - How connection reduces feelings of loneliness, even with children 09:46 - The importance of validation and feeling witnessed 11:07 - The role of laughter and humor during setbacks 12:24 - Shared experiences in addiction, recovery, and infertility 13:41 - The complexity and divine work behind surrogacy and biological processes 15:22 - The unpredictability and logistical stresses of international surrogacy 16:32 - Moving beyond stress through community and mutual understanding 18:28 - Recognizing that no levers remain to accelerate the journey 19:13 - The serenity prayer and acceptance of what can’t be changed 20:39 - The value of grounding practices like meditation and spiritual moments 22:40 - The importance of living in the present and allowing support to scratch the itch 23:33 - Practical grounding tips: meditation and self-care strategies 24:18 - Final thoughts: You are not alone—reach out, connect, and keep waiting with love RESOURCES & LINKS Waiting with Love - Website (https://www.waitingwithlove.com/) Meditation apps (https://www.headspace.com/) and guided meditations on YouTube Connect with Matt & Andrew: Email us: hope@waitingwithlove.com (mailto:hope@waitingwithlove.com) Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/waiting_withlove) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61585969594908) TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@waitingwithlove) YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@WaitingWithLove)

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    15 Feb 2026

    Episode 5: Life Continues

    Navigating Life While Waiting: Embracing Feelings and Continuing Forward In this heartfelt episode, Matt and Andrew explore how life's inevitable hardships—like loss and illness—intersect with ongoing journeys of hope, such as fertility or family building. They emphasize the importance of allowing oneself to feel, process, and live fully even amidst pain, ultimately advocating for a balanced approach to grief and responsibilities. In this episode: How life continues despite significant challenges like death and illness The importance of processing emotions rather than suppressing them Strategies for staying present and living intentionally during tough times The difference between healthy distraction and unhealthy avoidance Lessons learned from past setbacks in fertility and family journeys The role of focus, perspective, and community support during grieving How to manage obsession over processes and embrace surprises Practical advice for balancing grief with daily responsibilities Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction: Why it's important to navigate life amidst challenges 01:10 - Continuing life after a family member's death and personal health issues 01:54 - The balance between grieving and carrying on 02:49 - Early in the journey: unhealthy coping mechanisms and lessons learned 03:23 - The importance of feeling feelings and not compartmentalizing 04:16 - Finding grounding through shared family time and positive distractions 04:51 - Perspective shifts: recognizing life's surprises beyond fertility struggles 05:18 - The value of life continuing to help process grief and maintain hope 06:18 - Moving from obsession to healthy engagement with the process 07:01 - The dangers of being obsessed with updates and control 08:10 - Personal reactions to shocking news: fixer mentality vs. emotional processing 08:57 - Practical steps taken during crises: cooking, logistics, and support 11:27 - Different ways people process hardship: avoiding and breaking down 12:48 - The importance of authentic living and allowing feelings to surface 13:17 - Past setbacks, like issues with an exchange student, and living in the moment 14:08 - Supporting others while managing your own grief 15:15 - Pretending vs. genuine presence in difficult moments 16:09 - The importance of resilience and muscle memory for future setbacks 17:19 - Continuing to live through grief and supporting others 18:30 - Finding healthy outlets and perspective shifts 19:30 - The concept of life's terms and acceptance of setbacks 20:37 - Reflection on the unpredictability of fertility journeys and timing 21:13 - Embracing setbacks as part of growth and life’s journey 22:28 - Balancing genuine emotions with daily responsibilities 23:10 - Hope and grief can coexist; importance of processing emotions Resources & Links: Waiting With Love Website (https://www.waitingwithlove.com/) Amazon - Emotional Resilience Books (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=emotional+resilience&ref=nb_sb_noss_2) Connect: Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/waiting_withlove) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61585969594908) TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@waitingwithlove) YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@WaitingWithLove)

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    8 Feb 2026

    Episode 4: When Hope turns to Cynicism and Grief

    Summary In this conversation, Andrew and Matt reflect on their decade-long journey of trying to become parents through adoption and surrogacy. They discuss the emotional evolution from initial hope and excitement to a more guarded cynicism, and ultimately to a place of acceptance and finding joy in the present. They explore the coping mechanisms they've developed, the impact of setbacks, and the importance of living in the moment while waiting for their dreams to materialize. Takeaways The emotional journey of trying to have a child evolves over time. Initial excitement can turn into cynicism due to setbacks. Coping mechanisms can disguise themselves as excitement. A phone call from the agency is often bad news. Living in the moment is crucial while waiting for a child. Setbacks have become easier to handle over time. It's important to separate hope from guarantees. Personal growth occurs during the waiting period. Comparison to others can lead to resentment and cynicism. Finding joy in the present can help alleviate anxiety about the future. Sound bites "Do we want a baby? Yes." "What gives you hope today?" "We are where we are." Chapters 00:00 The Journey Begins: From Hope to Cynicism 05:45 The Emotional Rollercoaster of Adoption 10:00 Coping Mechanisms: Cynicism and Realism 17:04 Finding Hope Amidst Uncertainty 22:05 Living in the Moment: Building a Life While Waiting Keywords adoption, surrogacy, hope, cynicism, emotional journey, parenting, coping mechanisms, personal growth, waiting, life lessons.

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    2 Feb 2026

    Episode 3: The Expectations vs Reality Gap

    Summary In this episode, Andrew and Matt discuss the complexities of navigating conversations around infertility and surrogacy, particularly within the LGBTQ community. They explore the expectation gap between reality and what one hopes for, the challenges of seeking support from family and friends, and the importance of compassionate listening. The conversation emphasizes the need for understanding and patience from those who wish to support individuals on this journey, highlighting that silence does not equate to a lack of progress. The episode concludes with a call for community support and sharing experiences to help others in similar situations. Takeaways The expectation gap between reality and hopes can be challenging. Conversations about infertility can feel high stakes. Support from friends and family is often well-intentioned but can miss the mark. It's important to articulate what kind of support is needed. Questions about the process can feel invasive and overwhelming. Compassionate listening is more valuable than probing questions. Silence from loved ones doesn't mean there is no progress. The journey of infertility is often filled with emotional ups and downs. Sharing experiences can help others feel less alone. Community support is crucial for those navigating infertility. Sound bites "It's a hard thing to talk about." "Everyone has good intentions." "It's a very long journey for you." Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Gratitude 00:57 The Expectation Gap in Infertility 02:52 Navigating Conversations About Infertility 05:19 Desiring Support Without Probing Questions 09:11 Understanding the Complexity of Surrogacy 11:08 The Challenge of Well-Intentioned Questions 12:36 The Need for Compassionate Support 14:00 How to Check In Without Pressure Keywords infertility, LGBTQ, surrogacy, support, expectations, family, conversations, emotional journey, compassion, community

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    25 Jan 2026

    Episode 2: No Regrets

    Summary In this episode, Matt and Andrew reflect on their journey through the complexities of building a family, particularly focusing on the concept of 'no regrets'. They share personal anecdotes from their experiences with adoption, including the emotional rollercoaster of being matched with birth mothers and the subsequent challenges they faced. The conversation highlights the importance of recognizing what can be controlled in uncertain situations and how to shift perspectives from regret to learning experiences. They emphasize the need to balance living in the moment while planning for the future, especially when navigating the financial and emotional aspects of family building. As they delve deeper into their experiences, Matt and Andrew discuss the mental shifts they've made to embrace a more positive outlook. They talk about the significance of creating a fulfilling life outside of their family-building journey, including travel and personal growth. The episode serves as a candid exploration of the ups and downs of their path, offering insights and encouragement to others in similar situations. Keywords family building, no regret work, adoption journey, emotional challenges, personal growth, parenting, uncertainty, mental health, travel experiences, LGBTQ+ parenting Takeaways 'What can we do that no matter what the outcome is, we wouldn't regret doing?' 'We were desperately trying to control this process.' 'Every lesson has its purpose.' 'We have to remind ourselves that we also still have a marriage.' 'It's important to find what your passions are.' Sound Bites "What can we do that no matter what the outcome is?" "We were desperately trying to control this process." "Everything we did was all about we're gonna have kids one day." Chapters 00:00Introduction and Reflections on the Journey 08:48Shifting Perspectives on Regret 15:53Embracing Life Beyond Family Building

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    18 Jan 2026

    Episode 1: Getting Started

    Summary In the first full-length podcast, Matt and Andrew reflect on their journey into the world of podcasting, sharing the challenges they faced in selecting topics and building credibility. They discuss the complexities of going public with their personal experiences surrounding adoption and surrogacy, emphasizing the emotional weight of sharing their story. The duo candidly admits that the process has been more difficult than anticipated, revealing their struggles with technology and communication as they navigate their new venture. They aim to create a space for shared experiences, focusing on authenticity rather than simply providing educational content about adoption and surrogacy. Keywords podcasting, adoption, surrogacy, personal journey, LGBTQ parenting, shared experiences, credibility, emotional challenges, starting a podcast, navigating parenthood Takeaways It's harder to start a podcast than we thought. Building credibility is a challenge when sharing personal stories. Going public about our journey is both scary and liberating. We want to create a space for shared experiences, not just educational content. Finding the right topics to discuss has been a struggle. Sound Bites "It's harder to start a podcast than we thought." "We don't want this to be just an academic lecture." "This journey's lasted now over 10 years." Chapters 00:00 Welcome to Our Podcast Journey 01:51 The Challenges of Topic Selection 06:58 Building Credibility and Authenticity 12:18 Navigating Personal Experiences 17:28 Going Public with Our Story Socials Instagram @waiting_withlove Facebook: Waiting with Love

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    11 Jan 2026

    Waiting with Love: Episode 0

    In this inaugural episode of 'Waiting with Love', hosts Matt and Andrew share their personal journey of waiting to build a family over the past decade. They discuss the emotional challenges, the silence surrounding their struggles, and the importance of creating a supportive community for those navigating similar experiences. The episode emphasizes the coexistence of hope and grief during the waiting process and invites listeners to join them in a fellowship of shared experiences. Takeaways You don't have to wait without hope. Waiting for a family can be a long and emotional journey. Silence can often feel protective but may actually harm us. Social media often showcases only success stories, not the struggles. Creating a space for shared experiences is essential. There is a lack of public support for those still waiting. This podcast is for those in the messy middle of waiting. It's important to seek professional help when needed. Life continues, and joy can still be found during waiting. Hope and grief can coexist in the waiting process. Sound Bites "You don't have to wait without hope." "Silence was actually the opposite of protection." "This space doesn't exist and it's needed." Chapters 00:00Introduction to Waiting with Love 01:20The Journey of Waiting for a Family 05:05Navigating the Emotional Weight of Waiting 09:13Creating a Space for Shared Experiences 11:05Hope and Grief Coexisting in the Waiting Room Socials Instagram @waiting_withlove Facebook: Waiting with Love

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