Walking with the Wise

About Walking with the Wise

Our goal is to interview the wisest Christian leaders we know. Not to just entertain you, but to give practical and specific takeaways! We talk about leadership, the Bible, habits, theology, fitness, entrepreneurship, and more. For any questions, shoot us an email at hosts@walkingwiththewise.com 🤓

Publisher

Nate Breed and Sam Bodine

Category

religion & spirituality

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

18 Sept 2024

Latest episode

11 Jul 2026

Latest episodes

19 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   11 Jul 2026

   Patrick Lowndes on the Case for Business as Mission | Ep. 19

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2. 

   6 Apr 2026

   How to ask better questions w/ Drew Worsham | Ep. 18

   Drew is a very humble and kind lover of Jesus. Here are some takeaways from our conversation: Kids ask 300 questions a day. By middle school, it drops to zero. You can get it back. The best way to love someone isn't advice — it's a follow-up question. Answering with a question helps people find their own answers, and those stick. Companies are hiring curiosity over credentials. You don't need shared interests to connect — just genuine interest in why they care. Silence isn't awkward. Rushing to the next question is. You don't need a pitch to talk about Jesus. Lead with curiosity and people ask about your story on their own. "I don't know — what do you think?" opens more doors than a polished answer. Curiosity takes humility. You're handing someone the microphone. The more you know someone, the more you love them. Questions are how that starts. Check him out @drewworsham!

3. 

   12 Feb 2026

   How Science is Actually on the Side of the Bible w/ Nancy Pearcey | Ep. 17

   What if the most controversial issues of our day, like homosexuality and transgenderism, actually reveal that science is on the side of the Bible? In this episode of Walking with the Wise, Nate and I sit down with Nancy Pearcey, a world-renowned author, professor, and speaker, to tackle some of the toughest topics in our culture today. Nancy's journey is incredible; she went from being a skeptical agnostic searching for meaning in philosophy to studying under Francis Schaeffer at L’Abri and becoming one of the leading Christian intellectuals of our time. One of the things that really blew my mind was Nancy’s explanation of the "body-personhood" divide. It’s a theory that explains how our secular culture has split the concept of truth into "facts" (science) and "values" (personal feelings). Nancy shows us how this split leads to a negative view of the physical body and how we, as Christians, can actually be the "pro-science" ones by honoring the way God designed our biology. What You’ll Learn: Nancy Piercy's Journey from Agnosticism to Christianity Exploring Relativism and Determinism The Body-Person Dualism and Its Cultural Impact Historical Context of the Body-Person Divide Loving and Supporting Same-Sex Attracted Friends Engaging with Non-Christians on Homosexuality The Christian View of the Body and Science Navigating Conversations on Transgender Issue Understanding Identity and Body Image The Role of Christianity in Body Positivity Personal Stories and Parental Support Engaging in Conversations about Sexuality The Importance of a Christian Worldview Addressing Broader Cultural Issues ▶️Learn more about Guest: https://www.nancypearcey.com/ ▶️Learn more about Walking with the Wise here: Linktr.ee/walkingwiththewise #WalkingWithTheWise #NancyPearcey #Apologetics #ChristianWorldview #LoveThyBody

4. 

   29 Jan 2026

   How to talk WITH God, not TO God w/ IMBeggar | Ep. 16

   Ever feel like you’re just reading a list to God, instead of actually hanging out and having a real conversation with Him? In this conversation of Walking with the Wise, Sam and I sit down with Randy Schwab, the creative mind behind the YouTube channel IM Beggar. Randy has this unique way of turning big spiritual ideas into simple, visual, heart-level moments — usually through animation — and hearing the story behind that gift honestly surprised me. Randy opens up about his past as a successful animator in California, living the party life and chasing career highs. He even hit the dream: Disney wanted to buy his show. But even at the top, he felt completely empty. What changed everything was watching his parents quietly cling to their faith while his mom battled cancer. That steady, unshakeable trust in God is what pulled Randy out of skepticism and into a real relationship with Jesus. We dive deep into how he moved from “head knowledge” faith to something that actually transformed his heart. We talk about prayer, slowing down enough to hear God, and learning how to stop performing and just be honest. If you’re tired, distracted, or feeling distant from God… this episode will help you breathe, reset your heart, and actually meet with Him again. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest 02:12 Randy's Journey to Faith and Animation 14:20 The Impact of Creative Storytelling on Faith 21:35 Addressing Pain and Brokenness through Faith 26:33 Experiencing God's Love Beyond Feelings 28:30 Reprogramming Our Minds for Prayer 29:01 The Art of Conversing with God 30:29 Calming the Mind for Heartfelt Prayer 33:29 Listening to God: The Gentle Movements of the Soul 37:35 The Importance of Patience in Prayer 39:34 Visualizing God's Presence in Prayer 42:14 Time Management in Prayer 44:47 Rapid Fire Questions ▶️Learn more about IM Beggar: https://www.youtube.com/@imbeggar ▶️Learn more about Walking with the Wise here: Linktr.ee/walkingwiththewise #WalkingWithTheWise #IAmBeggar #ChristianPodcast #PrayerLife #SpiritualGrowth

5. 

   12 Nov 2025

   Christian Dating Advice You Need to Hear w/ Gary Thomas | EP 15

   Have you ever wondered if you’re truly ready to date or if you might be rushing into something God’s not done preparing you for yet? That’s exactly what we dove into in this episode of Walking with the Wise with Gary Thomas, the author of Sacred Marriage, The Sacred Search, and so many incredible books that have shaped how we think about love, faith, and relationships. Nate and I had such an honest and refreshing conversation with Gary about what it really looks like to build relationships that honor God, not just ones that feel good in the moment. We talked about everything from knowing when you’re ready to date, to breaking free from unhealthy patterns, to recognizing the difference between infatuation and real love. Gary’s perspective really challenged how I think about dating, especially his point about not rushing infatuation and taking time to really see someone’s heart. It’s a reminder that God’s design for relationships is always rooted in wisdom, patience, and truth. And if you’re single or in the early stages of a relationship, this conversation will give you the clarity and courage to approach love with faith and purpose. ▶️Learn more about Guest: https://garythomas.com/ (https://garythomas.com/) ▶️Learn more about Walking with the Wise here: Linktr.ee/walkingwiththewise (http://Linktr.ee/walkingwiththewise) #WalkingWithTheWise #GaryThomas #ChristianDating #FaithAndRelationships #SacredMarriage

6. 

   30 Oct 2025

   The Body Teaches the Soul w/ Justin Whitmel Earley | Ep. 13

   What if the habits we do every day are shaping our souls more than we realize? In this episode of Walking with the Wise, Sam and I sit down with Justin Whitmel Earley — a lawyer, author, and speaker — to talk about the powerful connection between our physical habits and our spiritual life. His new book, The Body Teaches the Soul, digs deep into how our bodies aren’t just along for the ride — they’re a big part of how God forms us. Justin’s story really stuck with me. He went from being a missionary in China to a lawyer chasing success and eventually hit burnout. But instead of giving up, he started small: habits like scripture before phone, box breathing, fasting and feasting, and learning to lament. Over time, those practices completely reshaped his mind, body, and relationship with God. What You’ll Learn: - How habits shape your spiritual life - Simple anchor habits to start today - The power of breathing + prayer for peace - Why feasting and fasting both matter - How to find shalom in your body and mind - Building faith through community My favorite part of this conversation? Justin’s reminder that habits won’t change God’s love for us but God’s love for us should change our habits. This episode will help you slow down, pay attention to your rhythms, and see how even the simplest daily choices can become ways to love God and others better. ▶️Learn more about Justin Whitmel Earley here: https://www.justinwhitmelearley.com/ ▶️Learn more about Walking with the Wise here: Linktr.ee/walkingwiththewise #WalkingWithTheWise #JustinWhitmelEarley #SpiritualHabits #ChristianPodcast #FaithAndMentalHealth

7. 

   8 Oct 2025

   How to Share with Gospel w/ Allen Bonnell | Ep. 13

   What if sharing my faith didn’t have to feel awkward or forced? In this episode, Sam and I sit down with Pastor Allen Bonnell to talk about what everyday evangelism really looks like — not just from the pulpit, but in our daily lives. Pastor Allen opens up about his powerful journey from a difficult childhood to becoming a lead pastor, and how God used his story to reach others. We dive into what it truly means to walk in humility, take ownership rather than just membership in the church, and why young people play such an important role in building strong communities of faith. Pastor Allen also shares simple and practical ways to start faith conversations naturally, why evangelism is often caught, not taught, and how prayer and relationships make all the difference. This episode reminded me that evangelism isn’t about pressure or perfection — it’s about love, service, and showing others the hope we’ve found in Christ. What You’ll Learn: - Why humility matters in leadership and daily life - How evangelism can feel natural, not intimidating - The difference between being a church member and a church owner - How college students can use their time wisely to serve and grow spiritually - Why prayer is the foundation of sharing your faith - How to build relationships that open doors for gospel conversations - Ways to overcome fear when talking about your faith - The power of sharing your personal story and testimony - How to be more welcoming and outward-focused at church - Why the next generation has a vital role in the future of the church ▶️Learn more about Allen Bonnell: https://weareibc.com/team/ ▶️Learn more about Walking with the Wise here: Linktr.ee/walkingwiththewise #WalkingWithTheWise #ChristianPodcast #Evangelism #FaithInAction #PastorAllenBonnell

8. 

   24 Sept 2025

   Systems Thinking, God’s Voice, and Entrepreneurship w/ Sebastian Harris | Ep.12

   What if business isn’t just about profit but about transformation? In this episode of Walking with the Wise, we sit down with Sebastian Harris, serial entrepreneur, innovator, and co-founder of Public Square (a values-based e-commerce company that scaled to IPO in just 2.5 years with a $350M valuation).Sebastian shares his journey from youth ministry in New Zealand to building startups in the U.S., and how God showed him that business is a vehicle for societal change. From hearing God in unexpected ways (even in Excel formulas!) to building aligned teams and systems that accelerate growth, this conversation is packed with wisdom for young leaders, entrepreneurs, and anyone seeking to integrate faith into everyday life.You’ll learn:- Why alignment is the secret to fast decision-making and team success- How to discern when it’s time to stay or move on in life and business- The underrated power of systems thinking for leadership and growth- Why a bad decision made in faith can be better than a good one made in doubt- How to walk with God daily and invite Him into every part of life—even spreadsheetsDon’t miss this episode! It’s full of practical takeaways, powerful testimonies, and wisdom for anyone walking with God in leadership, business, or personal growth.▶️Learn more about Sebastian Harris here:https://www.sandbox.fund/▶️Learn more about Walking with the Wise here:Linktr.ee/walkingwiththewise#WalkingWithTheWise #ChristianLeadership #FaithAndBusiness #SebastianHarris #ChristianEntrepreneur

9. 

   10 Sept 2025

   Nate & Sam’s top 39 takeaways from all episodes | Ep. 11

   What have we learned after 10 episodes of walking with wise leaders? In this episode of the Walking with the Wise Podcast, Sam Bodine and Nate Breed discuss key takeaways from various interviews, emphasizing the importance of changing inputs to achieve different outputs in life, the significance of spiritual warfare, productivity tips, theological insights, health and nutrition perspectives, and the power of personal testimonies. They also explore effective giving, the role of humility in leadership, and the importance of mentorship and building relationships. The conversation wraps up with reflections on how to integrate these insights into daily life. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Key Takeaways 03:04 The Importance of Changing Inputs for Better Outputs 06:07 Insights from Spiritual Warfare and Practical Advice 09:10 Productivity Tips and the Role of Sleep 12:04 Theological Insights and Their Practical Applications 15:10 Health and Nutrition Perspectives 18:19 The Power of Personal Testimonies 21:08 Effective Giving and Career Choices 24:00 The Role of Humility in Leadership 27:22 Building Relationships and Mentorship 29:58 Final Thoughts and Reflections Learn more about Walking with the Wise here: Linktr.ee/walkingwiththewise #WalkingWithTheWise #ChristianLeadership #FaithAndWisdom #LifeLessons #ChristianPodcast

10. 

    26 Aug 2025

    Work ethic, success, and mentorship w/ Dr. Dondi Costin | Ep. 10

    We had a great conversation with Dr. Costin! Here are some takeaways: Dr. Costin emphasizes the importance of mentorship in personal and professional growth. Blooming where you're planted means making the most of your current situation. Work ethic is crucial; being diligent in your responsibilities honors God. Understanding the system you're in can help you navigate your career effectively. Building relationships with mentors and peers is essential for success. Contentment in every situation is a learned behavior, not a natural one. God's guidance is often revealed through the journey, not a clear destination. The importance of having a Paul, Barnabas, and Timothy in your life for support and growth. Daily habits of prayer, scripture reading, and community involvement shape who you become. Life is a gift from God; live each day with purpose and intention.

11. 

    14 Jul 2025

    From Farm Boy to the President's Advisor w/ Scott Roenicke

    Mr. Roenicke is a wise dude. Here are some takeaways: Scott's journey illustrates how God opens doors in unexpected ways. Forgiveness is essential for personal healing and growth. Being a good dad requires emotional sensitivity and understanding. Discerning God's will involves walking closely with Him. Decision-making should integrate faith and God's guidance. God has a unique purpose for each individual. Life's challenges can lead to personal transformation. Prayer should be honest and real, reflecting our true emotions. Reading and understanding the Bible is crucial for spiritual growth. Trusting God leads to a more fulfilling life.

12. 

    30 Jun 2025

    Life direction, prayer, and global entrepreneurship with Peter Greer (CEO of Hope International)

    Nate and I were left with a great impression of Peter. He's humble, focused on what matters, and a great leader. Some takeaways from this convo: The importance of entrepreneurship in alleviating poverty. Hope International serves 3.3 million families through microfinance. Continuous learning is crucial for personal and professional growth. Establishing a sacred pace helps maintain balance in life. Creating a personal mission statement can guide one's life decisions. Small compromises can lead to significant drift over time. Prayer is essential for personal and organizational success. Building a culture of prayer can deepen relationships and faith. Finding a supportive community is vital for personal growth. Belovedness should be the foundation of our actions, not achievement. Love y'all. Thanks for listening.

13. 

    19 Feb 2025

    Entrepreneurship, the Bible, fitness, and more w/ David Benham

    David had some awesome wisdom. Here are takeaways: Commitment to reading the Bible can shape your future. Business can be a form of ministry. True accountability involves the power to hurt. Daily habits of prayer and exercise are crucial. Focus on being developed, not discovered. Listening prayer can help you hear God's voice. Surround yourself with supportive friends. Faith and fitness are interconnected. Everything in life should begin and end with God.

14. 

    25 Jan 2025

    How to be maximally effective with your money and career w/ JD Bauman, founder of Christians for Impact

    JD Bauman talks about effective giving and careers, psychoogy of why people give, his own story of how he got here, and more! These links were mentioned in the show: https://www.christiansforimpact.org/ (https://www.christiansforimpact.org/) https://www.eaforchristians.org/ (https://www.eaforchristians.org/) https://oradicals.substack.com/p/how-to-live-well-the-seven (https://oradicals.substack.com/p/how-to-live-well-the-seven)

15. 

    6 Jan 2025

    How (and why) to live healthy with ex-NFL and Pastor Eddie Williams ( + how to know your calling)

    In this episode of Walking with the Wise, hosts converse with Pastor Eddie Williams about the intersection of health, nutrition, and faith. He describes his journey from NFL to pastoral ministry, discussing how he discovered his call to serve. Eddie also touches on the often-overlooked sin of gluttony, the significance of stewardship over our bodies, and practical steps for improving health. He offers actionable advice on diet, supplements, and the importance of staying physically active while stressing that true wellness stems from living as intended by God. Learn more about Eddie at https://exnihilohealth.com/ or find his church at https://www.dxa.ch/

16. 

    4 Dec 2024

    Why Does Theology Matter? w/ Author Trevin Wax

    Trevin hits a lot of important points about theology today! We focus a lot of the concepts from his recent book, The Thrill of Orthodoxy. Learn more about Trevin at https://trevinwax.com

17. 

    17 Oct 2024

    How to be more productive w/ Reagan Rose, founder of Redeeming Productivity

    Reagan gets super practical about how to be productive. Listen in to learn about planning, goal setting, morning routines, Scripture, and more. Check out Reagan's content at https://redeemingproductivity.com/.

18. 

    3 Oct 2024

    How to win the spiritual warfare battle w/ Dr. Adam McClendon

    Tune in for practical tips on how to win! Dr. McClendon, an associate dean at Liberty University, challenges misconceptions and teaches truth in this great episode.

19. 

    18 Sept 2024

    Knowing God's Will, Liberty's Key to Spiritual Success, and Obeying the Word w/ Josh Rutledge

    In this episode of Walking with the Wise, Josh Rutledge, Vice President of Spiritual Development at Liberty University, shares his journey of faith, beginning with his first sermon in a jail cell. He discusses his roles and responsibilities at Liberty, including leading programs like Convocation and Campus Community, and emphasizes the importance of humility, obedience, and practical wisdom in leadership. Josh also reflects on the challenges of discerning God's will and provides actionable advice for young people seeking to balance work and play, while staying faithful to their callings. The conversation concludes with Josh offering insights into the impact of small changes in habits and the importance of personal influence in spiritual growth. 00:00 Josh Rutledge Full Episode 00:13 Introduction to Walking with the Wise 00:21 Meet Josh Rutledge: A Humble Leader 01:40 Opening Prayer 02:19 Fun Nicknames and Rapid Fire Questions 03:07 Role and Responsibilities at Liberty University 08:52 Josh Rutledge's Journey to Liberty 14:38 Early Ministry Experiences 20:02 Reflecting on God's Guidance 23:51 Navigating Life's Unfolding Mystery 26:10 Reflecting on God's Faithfulness 28:09 Practical Advice for College Students 30:42 Leadership and Influence 39:22 Balancing Work and Play 42:28 Rapid Fire Questions 45:57 Concluding Thoughts and Prayer

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