Watching Two Detectives

About Watching Two Detectives

From Sarah Ferris Media, the award-winning producer behind hits like Conning the Con, Klooghless: The Long Con, Stop the Killing, The Bravery Academy, and Guilty Greenie, a new true crime podcast that dives deeper into the heart of unsolved mysteries than ever before. Watching Two Detectives, hosted by retired NSW Police Detectives Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan, revisits the cases that have haunted them, bringing new insights and revelations to light.Season One: "If Tomorrow Never Comes"In our gripping first season, "If Tomorrow Never Comes," we unravel the chilling and complex murder of Michael Furlong. Unlike any crime story you've heard, this case twists on its axis with developments so shocking, they'd be dismissed as too unbelievable for a Hollywood script.Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan are not just recounting the case; they're reopening the files with a personal connection that adds layers of depth and humanity to the narrative. Joined by the detective who led the investigation, Clive Ainley, this season offers unprecedented access to the people closest to the case. Michael's son Luke, who was only 11 at the time of his father's murder, and his ex-wife, Colline, share their poignant journeys of seeking answers and closure.The Story That Grips Your SoulThis isn't just a recounting of facts; it's an exploration of the ripple effects of a single act of violence. From the crime scene that shook the detectives to their core to the heart-wrenching irony of Michael's last gift to his ex-wife—a CD featuring Ronan Keating's "If Tomorrow Never Comes"—this season brings you closer to the case than ever before.Why You Can't Miss ThisDeep Dive: Go beyond the headlines and the cold facts. Experience the human side of a true crime story, accompanied by those who lived through it.Unprecedented Access: Hear directly from the detectives who worked the case and the family members still seeking answers.Shocking Twists: Just when you think you've understood the case, new revelations emerge, each more surprising than the last.Subscribe NowDon't miss out on this compelling journey through the shadows of the past into the light of truth. Subscribe now on all usual podcast platforms, and stay up-to-date with the latest information on launch dates by following us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/conmunitypodcast and visiting https://www.sarahferrismedia.comWatching Two Detectives: If Tomorrow Never Comes is more than just a true crime podcast; it's a quest for justice, understanding, and closure. Join Scott Rogan, Peter Hogan, and their guests as they delve into a case that forever changed their lives and may just change yours, too. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy (https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.

Publisher

Evergreen Podcasts & Sarah Ferris Media

Category

true crime

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

11 Apr 2024

Latest episode

14 Sept 2026

Latest episodes

23 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   14 Sept 2026

   Sarah Ferris is coming to CrimeCon UK 2026

   Join Sarah in London on 3–4 October 2026 for a weekend of ethical, victim-centred true crime. CrimeCon UK brings together victims’ families, advocates, investigators, forensic experts and leading podcast creators—all committed to using storytelling to inform, empower and create meaningful change. This year’s guests include Gabby Petito’s family and Claire Throssell MBE, who have transformed unimaginable personal loss into powerful advocacy for others. Book tickets:https://crimeconuk.seetickets.com/ Use code FERRIS at checkout for a discount. Explore CrimeCon UK:https://www.crimecon.co.uk/ See the guest-speaker line-up:https://www.crimecon.co.uk/guest-speakersc57db5fa Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2. 

   23 Jul 2026

   S5|E7 Columbine School Shooting: Principal Frank DeAngelis on the Day That Changed Everything

   Following the five-part crossover between Watching Two Detectives and Stop the Killing, we are sharing another standout conversation from the Stop the Killing archive. On April 20, 1999, two students arrived at Columbine High School intending to bomb the school. When their bombs failed, they opened fire. At the time, 12 students and one teacher were killed. In February 2025, Columbine survivor Anne Marie Hochhalter died from complications linked to the gunshot wounds she sustained during the attack. Her death was later ruled a homicide, bringing the recognised death toll to 13 students and one teacher — 14 victims in total. In this episode, Sarah Ferris and Katherine Schweit speak with Frank DeAngelis, the former principal of Columbine High School. Frank takes us back inside the school on the day of the attack and shares what it was like to lead a community through unimaginable violence, grief and trauma. But this conversation is about far more than the events of April 20. Frank explains how the impact of a school shooting continues long after the emergency vehicles, investigators and television cameras leave. The psychological wounds spread through students, teachers, families, first responders and the wider community — and for many, those wounds last a lifetime. He also reflects on the responsibility he felt toward the Columbine community, the promises he made to the families and why his role did not simply end when he retired as principal. This is a conversation about leadership, survivor guilt, recovery, school safety and the human consequences that cannot be measured by casualty numbers alone. It is also a reminder that behind every statistic is a person, a family and a life forever altered. Let’s Be FrankFrank discusses school security, hardening targets and why safety measures can go too far when they begin to change schools from welcoming places into fortresses: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000669832290 This bonus episode includes excerpts from a longer conversation with Frank that were not included in the original episode. Please follow Stop the Killing wherever you listen to podcasts for more conversations with Frank DeAngelis and more than 200 episodes examining mass shootings, school safety, active-shooter response, prevention, survival and the people left carrying the consequences. And stay following Watching Two Detectives for Season Six: Biddy: I’m So Shiny, I Can Twinkle Like a Star. The story of ten-year-old Bridget “Biddy” Porter, the warning signs before her murder and the family fighting to give their daughter back the name, story and voice that were taken from her. WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling Message us on instagram : @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Klooghless: The Long Con Watching Two Detectives Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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   16 Jul 2026

   S5|E6 Uvalde School Shooting: The First 48 Hours at Robb Elementary | Katherine Schweit

   Following our five-part crossover between Watching Two Detectives and Stop the Killing, we’re sharing a specially selected episode from the Stop the Killing archive. On May 24, 2022, a gunman entered Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, killing 19 children and two teachers and injuring 17 others. This episode was recorded just two days after the Uvalde school shooting, while information was still emerging and before the full, deeply troubling picture of the police response became known. Sarah Ferris is joined by Katherine Schweit, former head of the FBI’s Active Shooter Program, to examine what was understood in those first 48 hours. They discuss the gunman’s movements before the attack, his social-media activity, warning behaviours, access to firearms, the early questions surrounding school security and the initial reports of a lengthy delay before officers entered the classroom. Katherine also challenges some of the misinformation and conspiracy theories that appeared almost immediately after the shooting and explains how to identify reliable information during a rapidly unfolding investigation. The conversation explores why blaming mass shootings solely on mental illness is both misleading and unsupported by research, the difference between mental illness and urgent emotional distress, and the importance of recognising concerning behaviour before violence occurs. Because this episode captures the immediate aftermath, some early information discussed was later corrected or clarified. As official investigations progressed, Stop the Killing returned to Uvalde several times to examine the police response, command failures, active-shooter protocols and the legal questions surrounding accountability. Uvalde, Texas — Robb Elementary School MassacreThe original episode recorded immediately after the shooting:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000564101644 Bonus 4: Uvalde UpdateKatherine examines the emerging timeline, the delay in confronting the shooter and the question of who was in command:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000567936043 The Uvalde Shooting — A Comprehensive AnalysisA detailed reconstruction based on the US Department of Justice Critical Incident Review, including the 77-minute delay and systemic failures in leadership, communication and command:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000746309846 Uvalde Trial Verdict: What the Decision Really MeansKatherine explains the legal outcome, what the verdict established and why criminal, civil and command accountability are not the same:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000746304659 This episode is being shared on the Watching Two Detectives feed to give listeners a taste of the more than 200 episodes available from Stop the Killing. Please follow Stop the Killing wherever you listen to podcasts for more expert-led conversations about mass shootings, active-shooter response, prevention, survival and the human impact left behind. Next week on Watching Two Detectives, we’ll share a powerful conversation with Frank DeAngelis, former principal of Columbine High School, about April 20, 1999, the attack’s aftermath and the psychological scars carried by the Columbine community decades later. Continue the Uvalde deep dive WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling Message us on instagram : @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Klooghless: The Long Con Watching Two Detectives Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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5.0 / 5

32 ratings

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