

Waves to Wisdom Interviews
Maia Dery - Educator, Coach, Surfer
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About Waves to Wisdom Interviews
Seeking an ocean-centered wisdom practice, one wave at a time.
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- Maia Dery - Educator, Coach, Surfer
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- society & culture
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- en
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- First episode
- 28 Aug 2017
- Latest episode
- 19 Mar 2021
Latest episodes
16 episodes in the feed.

19 Mar 2021
Waves to Wisdom Interviews: Brad Turner
Surfer, Navy veteran, artist, mentor, and all-around inspiring guy Brad Turner talks about his life in the waves.

6 Sept 2020
Waves to Wisdom Interview: Dr. Antonio Puente
Check out the latest interview. This one is with Dr. Antonio Puente-- celebrated neuropsychologist, wise human, stoked surfer! At one point in his life, Dr. Puente was an undocumented refugee kid, smiling at someone administering a standardized test he didn’t understand a word of. Now he’s a celebrated scholar and an advocate who, in his words, works tirelessly to carry “the flag of truth, the flag of discovery, the flag of diversity.” In our conversation, he tells the story of the crucial role his relationship with the ocean played in his epic journey.

25 Jun 2020
Waves to Wisdom Interview: Surf Sista Mary
To listen to the interview, scroll to the Player at the bottom of the page. Learn more about coaching with Maia (http://wavestowisdom.com/coaching/)"...when I surf I could just sit there, and I know I'm black, and I can tell by some of the stares, people are going, 'Oh, look, a black woman.' But I can just sit there and shut down for a bit. That's nice."~ Surf Sista Mary UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-201498")); UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-562214"));Show Notes and Further Reading Mary’s Blog: Black People Don’t Surf (http://surfandthefury.blogspot.com/) Derrick Adams’ Water Paintings (http://www.derrickadams.com/works-on-paper-1) Swim Beyond: A 501 (c)(3) Non-profit that maintains a scholarship fund to help those who do not have the financial means to participate in swim lessons. (https://www.swimbeyond.com/swim-beyond-the-boundaries-inc.html) Black Kids Swim: An organization whose priority is “creating and protecting excellence in Black children.” From their website: “Black Kids Swim will share our activities to unify and strengthen the African diaspora through a love of swimming.” (https://blackkidsswim.com/) NY TIMES Article about racism and American pools. (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/01/sports/black-people-pools-racism.html) Trailer for documentary The Black Line. (https://vimeo.com/169824754) Trailer for documentary White Wash about African American surfers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4dOVnNjplk) Interview with Neuroscientist Arne Dietrich on Flowstate (https://www.flowstate.co/tfpp-008-arne-dietrich-a-neuroscientists-view-on-flow-states-synchronicity-and-altered-states-of-consciousness/) Nina Simone Interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si5uW6cnyG4) UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-190479")); UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-146727")); UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-564825"));Interview Transcript INTRODUCTION Surf Sista Mary: What you don’t understand about being black or being gay or being, you know, Latino or Muslim is you’re always reminded of it. So if you’re white, you can just go through life and be white. But if you’re a different group something is always reminding you. The president says something or there’s something on the news or somebody goes to a mosque and shoots up the place. All those things remind you, oh you’re not like everybody else, even though you are. But when I surf I could just sit there, and I know I’m black, and I can tell by some of the stares,

25 Feb 2020
Waves to Wisdom Interview: Dr. Nathalie Arias
To listen to the interview, scroll to the Player at the bottom of the page. Learn more about coaching with Maia (http://wavestowisdom.com/coaching/)"If you have the chance to get closer to the ocean that’s gonna be life changing. Maybe you’re not living the life you wanted or always expected to be, I think the ocean might help you a little bit to decide here’s my priorities now and this is what I want to do."~ Dr. Nathalie Arias UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-334897")); UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-116384"));Show Notes and Further Reading 2014 Article Describing Economic Inequality in the Trans-national Surf Communities of Nosara and Samara Costa Rica, from the Center For Responsible Travel (https://www.responsibletravel.org/docs/A%20%20Portrait%20of%20Economic%20Realities%20in%20Nosara%20and%20Samara%20Final.pdf) 2019 Article from The Lancet Reporting on a SYstematic Review of the Lack of Nutritional Training in Medical Schools (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5196(19)30171-8/fulltext) Conocer: A Responsible, Socially Engaged Tour Operator in Nosara, Costa RIca (https://conocercr.org/know-us/) UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-610927")); UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-204539")); UNCODE.initRow(document.

15 Oct 2019
Waves to Wisdom Interview: Maureen McNamara
To listen to the interview, scroll to the Player at the bottom of the page. Learn more about coaching with Maia (http://wavestowisdom.com/coaching/)"You're always evolving but at some point you have to discover your true essence, who you are. I’m Maureen and I'm a surfer and that's who I have always been.And for most of us as older transitioners, who’ve been through what we've been through, we don't want to see younger kids struggle the way we did. We want to allow the younger trans population to experience themselves early. But for most of us older transitioners, it’s, you reach a point where it's transition or die."~ Maureen McNamara UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-445181")); UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-110844"));Show Notes Maureen McNamara’s article about being a trans surfer in The Inertia (https://www.theinertia.com/surf/the-story-of-a-transsexual-surfer-finding-a-home-in-the-lineup/) Maureen McNamara’s Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/waterwoman74/?hl=en) One of Maureen’s surf style heroes: Leah Dawson (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAdG0TMKae8) The first mainstream surf documentary: The Endless Summer (https://www.brucebrownfilms.com/the-endless-summer) A brief article in The Inertia putting The Endless Summer in historical context (https://www.theinertia.com/surf/but-you-think-surfing-and-politics-dont-mix/) Britannica entry on Tiresias (https://www.britannica.com/topic/Tiresias) Resources for transgender youth (https://itgetsbetter.org) Resources for parents of transgender children (https://www.hrc.org/explore/topic/transgender-children-youth) Find an LGBT supportive therapist (https://www.findapsychologist.org/category/healthcare-topics-issues/lgbt/) UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-204176"));A Few of Maureen's Photos

19 Aug 2019
Waves to Wisdom Interview: Kevin Carillo
To listen to the interview, scroll to the Player at the bottom of the page. Learn more about coaching with Maia (http://wavestowisdom.com/coaching/)"As a Tico Nosareño and surfer, I love this place. It’s so good. This place is magical. A lot of things that you can learn. The waves, surfing is so good. Just like taking off like just get up on the wave, it’s gonna feel like something magical inside of you, like butterflies on your belly, something like that, it’s gonna like, feels like, this is like heaven." ~Kevin Pipin Carillo UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-840563")); UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-669933")); UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-204792"));Show Notes The ATV tour service, Pippin Rentals (http://www.pipinrentalsnosara.com/), Kevin and his family operate in Nosara. The surf school where Kevin teaches, Safari Surf (https://safarisurfschool.com/). National Geographic Article on Blue Zones (where people routinely live longer than average) (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/books/features/5-blue-zones-where-the-worlds-healthiest-people-live/) Peer reviewed article (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6125071/) about how research into Blue Zones led to this conclucion: “putting the responsibility of curating a healthy environment on an individual does not work, but through policy and environmental changes the Blue Zones Project Communities have been able to increase life expectancy, reduce obesity and make the healthy choice the easy choice for millions of Americans.”

25 Apr 2019
Interview: Michael and Ruth Coleman
To listen to the interview, scroll to the Player at the bottom of the page. Learn more about transformational coaching with Maia (http://wavestowisdom.com/coaching-with-maia/) UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-118903")); UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-198329"));"... with ALS when you lose muscle that includes tongue and throat and so swallowing can be a challenge and aspiration, choking can be a danger. So he does aspirate and choke a little bit sometimes... he feels like he’s able to get through that because of skills he learned from surfing when you get pounded and knocked under and your rolling around having to hold your breath underwater and stay calm and you know find your way through it and find your way up." ~Ruth Coleman for Michael UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-138192")); Show Notes Website of the brilliant author, polymath, and public intellectual Rebecca Solnit (http://rebeccasolnit.net/) What is ALS? (http://www.alsa.org/about-als/what-is-als.html) NOAA Weather Radio (https://www.weather.gov/ama/nwr) Donate to ALS Research (http://www.alsa.org/) Article Encouraging Thoughtfulness Among International Travelers from the Developed World (https://ethicaltraveler.org/2018/04/surf-tourism-the-good-the-bad-and-the-waves/) UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-155489")); UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-803730"));Interview Transcript Introductory note about this show: I know from soliciting feedback from subscribers that many of you all are reading the transcripts rath...

15 Sept 2018
Interview: Elsa Rivera
To listen to the interview, scroll to the Player at the bottom of the page. Learn more about our next retreat to Nosara, Costa Rica. (http://wavestowisdom.com/march-2019-retreat/) UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-964797")); UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-133593"));"... my whole neurological being, body, mind, and spirit, is enhanced when I get in the water. And when I come out my perception, my storytelling about any particular "problem" is, it's just redefined. I don't sweat the small stuff." ~Elsa Rivera UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-669703")); UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-779466")); Show Notes GI Josie Website (https://www.gijosie.org/) Britannica Entry About Yemonja (https://www.britannica.com/topic/Yemonja) Blue Mind Book (https://smile.amazon.com/Blue-Mind-Surprising-Healthier-Connected/dp/0316252115/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1537107594&sr=8-1&keywords=Blue+Mind) Outside Magazine Article about Blue Mind and J Wallace Nichols “How Water Makes Us Happier, Healthier, and More Successful” (http://wavestowisdom.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=49626&action=edit) Trailer for Documentary about Women Veterans Suffering fr...

15 Aug 2018
Interview: Joanna Frye
To listen to the interview scroll to the media player at the bottom of the page. Learn More About Our Next Retreat in Nosara, Costa Rica (http://wavestowisdom.com/march-2019-retreat/) SHOW NOTES Links also available in transcript. Joanna Frye’s Website (https://www.joannafrye.com/) 180 South Trailer on Vimeo (https://vimeo.com/11931178) Kyle Thiermann 2018 Interview with Filmmaker Chris Malloy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc3gxU_ofxE) Conservación Patagonica (http://www.conservacionpatagonica.org/home.htm#) Tompkins Conservation (http://www.tompkinsconservation.org/home.htm) Bob Ross (yes, Bob Ross!) documentary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCwGOMloBPk) Information about painter Egon Schiele (https://www.theartstory.org/artist-schiele-egon.htm) Interview Transcript Maia: My name is Maia Dery. This episode is part of a series called the Waves to Wisdom Interviews. The project is a simple one. I seek out people I admire— surfers, with what look to me to be ocean centered wisdom practices. I ask them if they’d be willing to share a surf sessio...

15 Jul 2018
Interview: Elizabeth Pepin SIlva
To listen to the interview, scroll to the Media Player at the bottom of this page. Reserve space on our next retreat to Nosara, Costa Rica. "I think that increasingly as more and more women take to the water we are demanding that we are looked at differently than we have been in the past that we are athletes that we are courageous and confident and that that carries over into our everyday life. When I leave the water I don't leave those things on the beach I take them with me..."~Elizabeth Pepin Silva UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-697682")); Interview Transcript Maia: My name is Maia Dery. This episode impart of a series called the Waves to Wisdom Interviews. The project is a simple one. I seek out people I admire, surfers with what look to me to be ocean centered wisdom practices. I ask them if they’d be willing to share a surf session or two and then, after we’ve ridden some waves together, talk to me about their oceanic habits: about surfing, work, meaning, anything that comes up. Elizabeth Pepin Silva (EPS): I think that increasingly as more and more women take to the water we are demanding that we are looked at differently than we have been in the past that we are athletes that we are courageous and confident and that that carries over into our everyday life. When I leave the water I don’t leave those things on the beach I take them with me every day and it has given me strength in my everyday life that I don’t think I had before I surfed, that’s a profound thing, to be able to just be your, your own person, to just be you and be okay with it. My conversation with photographer, filmmaker, and writer Elizabeth Pepin Silva took place over two crystal clear California days. We spent time with her friends and family in her hometown of Ojai and had a chance to explore a couple of the nearby surf breaks.

15 Jun 2018
Waves to Wisdom Interview: Ethan Crouch
Reserve space on our next retreat to Nosara, Costa Rica.To listen to the interview, scroll to the Media Player at the bottom of this page. To live life by the minimum standard and to build all my projects by the minimum standard, one isn’t going be very fulfilling for me as a person but two I don’t think it’s going to create a very beautiful world and that’s something that I want, that I want to live in, that’s something I want to pass on to future generations. So, yeah, I think we need codes and I think we need standards. I think they’re valuable but to live your life by checking that box and checking that box alone isn’t going to be adequate for us as a species to survive on this planet and isn’t going to be adequate for us as an individual to find fulfillment, much less connection with each other and all the other beautiful things that can occur on the planet if we do things right.~Ethan Crouch UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-197834"));UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-148011")); Interview Transcript Introduction Maia: My name is Maia Dery. This episode impart of a series called the Waves to Wisdom Interviews. The project is a simple one. I seek out people I admire, surfers with what look to me to be ocean centered wisdom practices. I ask them if they’d be willing to share a surf session or two and then, after we’ve ridden some waves together, talk to me about their oceanic habits: about surfing, work, meaning, anything that comes up. Ethan: To live life by the minimum standard and to build all my projects by the minimum standard, one isn’t going be very fulfilling for me as a person but two I don’t think it’s going to create a very beautiful world and that’s something that I want, that I want to live in, that’s something I want to pass on to future generations. So, yeah, I think we need codes and I think we need standards. I think they’re valuable but to live your life by checking that box and checking that box alone isn’t going to be adequate for us as a species to survive on this planet and isn’t going to be adequate for us as an individual to find fulfillment, much less connection with each other and all the other beautiful things that can occur on the planet if we do things right. Maia: I first came across Ethan through his work with Surfrider Foundation (https://www.surfrider.org/)— he’s one of the people working hard to make sure the beaches I an so many others enjoy are still healthy, accessible places. A business owner, consultant, passionately committed surfer and board shaper , and he’s been generous enough to speak to several groups of my students in the past. His ability to articulate the ways in which his undergraduate training in philosophy prepared him for his financially and emotionally abundant work in the construction industry inspired more than a few of those students to think more broadly about the possibilities for their own learning. In our conversations for this interview, Ethan cited the ideas of two 20th Century philosophers, Martin Buber (https://www.iep.utm.edu/buber/) and Emmanuel Levinas (http://faculty.evansville.edu/tb2/PDFs/UndergradPhil.pdf) as powerful currents in his own life. Both of these philosophers wrote about ethics based on deep ...

29 Dec 2017
Waves to Wisdom Interview: Lena Gabeler
To listen to the interview, scroll to the Media Player at the bottom of this page. What would give you the courage to quit a good job, one you had worked hard to get, and always thought you wanted but discovered maybe wasn’t very good for you? And what happens when a German structural engineer reaches for surfing to help heal a broken heart and discovers an altogether healthier way of seeing and her living life? Before learning to surf "I was the same. I spent a lot of money for things I actually don't need to impress people I don't like." ~Lena G UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-314173")); Interview Transcript My name is Maia Dery. This episode is part of a series called the Waves to Wisdom Interviews. The project is a simple one. I seek out people I admire, surfers with what look to me to be ocean-centered wisdom practices. I ask them if they’d be willing to share a surf session or two, and then, after we’ve ridden some waves together, talk to me about their oceanic habits, surfing, work, meaning, and anything else that comes up. What would give you the courage to quit a good job, one you had worked hard to get, and always thought you wanted but discovered maybe wasn’t very good for you? And what happens when a German structural engineer reaches for surfing to help heal a broken heart and discovers an altogether healthier way of seeing and her living life? Lena: Oh my god, I remember these wipe-outs, I thought I could never do it, and then after two hours, so hard work, then you catch a wave and you’re standing on your surfboard and you think like, “Oh my god, I can do it! It’s possible.” and you just have to believe in it and don’t give up and this is the same in life now when I have moments where I’m struggling, like the bad things happen, I’m so sad, I’m lost and I remember surfing, and I know, no, it’s gonna be good, there will be, don’t,

31 Oct 2017
Waves to Wisdom Interviews: Dionne Ybarra
“… a pod of dolphins come swimming by and these 10 surfers who are all men except for my girlfriend I, are just stunned and still and looking out at these beautiful dolphins and it was just this moment of, “This is amazing!” and it was the moment where I realized, I had a flash of, every door that had possibly opened to allow me to be in that moment and it was a moment of feeling grateful,… that this little Mexican girl can look back at her family line and remember that her mother was told that she was “a dirty Mexican”… The life of struggle was over…” ~ Dionne Ybarra UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-111781")); Further Information On the Wahine Project (http://www.thewahineproject.org) On the GI Bill of Rights (http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/career/education/gibill/pages/vegib.aspx) On the Gaza Surf Club (http://www.gazasurfclub.com/Home.html) On CDC Racial Disparities in Rates of Drowning (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6319a2.htm?s_cid=mm6319a2_w) USA Swimming Diversity and Inclusion Resources (https://www.usaswimming.org/articles-landing-page/2017/06/29/cultural-inclusion-resource-guides) UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-142796"));

21 Sept 2017
Interview: Jess Ponting Part 2
“From an educational perspective there’s so many different angles that you can look at through the lens of surfing… it’s such a fun and rewarding thing to do that puts you in touch with so many things. It can be used as a lens to understand all kinds of different things and it breathes life into that otherwise lifeless study of stuff.” Dr. Jess Ponting UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-158385")); UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-373743"));

21 Sept 2017
Interview: Jess Ponting Part 1
“Putting… theory and knowledge from the development world together with surfing, it struck me that there would be ways to make this an industry where everybody could benefit from the spread of surfing around the world…” Dr. Jess Ponting UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-602911")); UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-140215"));

28 Aug 2017
Interview: Andrea Kabwasa
UNCODE.initRow(document.getElementById("script-137478"));“Surfing became my everything… my religion, my peace of mind, my ego checker,… my happiness meter, … it’s really everything for me. But that doesn’t mean that I’m like a surf rat and I’m only hanging at the beach all day, it’s just, the surfing frame of mind extends outside of the actual act of surfing.” Andrea Kabwasa Transcript Interview Date: June 2016 My name is Maia Dery. This interview with longboard surfer Andrea Kabwasa is the first in a series called Waves to Wisdom. The project is a simple one. I seek out people I admire, surfers with what look to me to be ocean centered wisdom practices, ask them if they’d be willing to share a surf session or two, and then, after we ride some waves together, talk to me about their oceanic habits, surfing, work, love, meaning, and anything else that comes up. Andrea was generous enough to agree to two surf sessions in Malibu, the Eden of modern surfing if ever there was one. The sessions we shared were a little bit terrifying but magical. The interview was even better. Welcome to Waves to Wisdom. Andrea: My name’s Andrea Kabwasa and I’m 47 and I’ve been surfing, I dunno, about, I dunno, what is that about 15, 14, 15 years or something like that. Maia: And we are in Malibu right next to the beach and we surfed this morning a building swell, [mm hm] pretty exciting [laugh] and uh I don’t have a lot of experience with big crowds and it was unsurprisingly [yeah] well populated. Beautiful wave– you’ve been surfing Malibu for most of your time as a surfer or did it take you a few years to get there? Andrea: Yeah I been surfing there maybe about 12,12 or 13 years yeah quite a while. Maia: How long did it take you to get comfortable with the crowd? Andrea: Oh, I accepted it right off the bat.
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