I’m Roxanne Petraeus—CEO at Ethena, Army vet, and mom—joined by Melanie Naranjo, our CPO and animal mom. Together, we talk about all things HR: the hiring fails, the leadership wins (and disasters), and the stuff you’d never hear in a corporate training. This is candid, messy, and way too fun to be a boring business podcast.

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I’m Roxanne Petraeus—CEO at Ethena, Army vet, and mom—joined by Melanie Naranjo, our CPO and animal mom. Together, we talk about all things HR: the hiring fails, the leadership wins (and disasters), and the stuff you’d never hear in a corporate training. This is candid, messy, and way too fun to be a boring business podcast.
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