What 50 Says

About What 50 Says

Two longtime friends seeking God's wisdom for life in the empty nest years. https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/4364120.rss what50says.substack.com (https://what50says.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast)

Publisher

Karin Admiraal and Nancy Admiraal

Category

religion & spirituality · society & culture

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

5 Apr 2025

Latest episode

31 May 2025

Latest episodes

10 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   31 May 2025

   Bonus Episode: Friendship

   This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit what50says.substack.com (https://what50says.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

2. 

   31 May 2025

   Bonus Episode: "What 50 Said," by Robert Frost

   We discuss the poem that inspired the podcast title. Resources “What 50 Said” by Robert Frost What Fifty Said, by Robert Frost (https://www.poetry.com/poem/30951/what-fifty-said..) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit what50says.substack.com (https://what50says.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

3. 

   24 May 2025

   Episode 8: Some Other Empty(ing) Nests

   We chat with two friends to capture some of the variation in the empty nest experience. Recommendations On the Brink of Everything: Grace, Gravity, and Getting Old by Parker J. Palmer. Berrett-Koehler Publishers, 2018. The Sleep Prescription: 7 Days to Unlocking Your Best Rest by Aric Prather. Penguin Life, 2022. The Trinity Forum Podcast Podcasts | The Trinity Forum (https://ttf.org/trinity-forum-conversations/) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit what50says.substack.com (https://what50says.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

4. 

   17 May 2025

   Episode 7: Physical Signs of Aging

   We talk about getting older and how we might think biblically about “age-resisting activities.” Resources “Beyond the Mask: Women's Experiences of Public and Private Ageing During Midlife and their Use of Age-Resisting Activities” by K. Ballard, M. A. Elston, and J. Gabe. Health, 9(2), 2005. 169–187. https://doi.org/10.1177/1363459305050584 (https://doi.org/10.1177/1363459305050584) “Body Image in Adult Women: Moving Beyond the Younger Years” by Lisa Smith Kilpela, Carolyn Black Becker, Nicole Wesley, and Tiffany Stewart. Advances in Eating Disorders 3(2), 2015. Body Image in Adult Women: Moving Beyond the Younger Years - PMC (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4452130/) “Characteristics of Aging Skin” by Miranda A. Farage, Kenneth W. Miller, Peter Elsner, and Howard I. Maibach. Advanced Wound Care 2(1), 2013. doi: 10.1089/wound.2011.0356 (https://doi.org/10.1089/wound.2011.0356) “Filling the Empty Nest: Eating Disorders and Moms Launching Children,” by Deborah A. Russo. Eating Disorder Hope. Filling the Empty Nest: Eating Disorders and Moms Launching Children (https://www.eatingdisorderhope.com/recovery/self-help-tools-skills-tips/filling-the-empty-nest-eating-disorders-and-moms-launching-children) “Metabolic Changes in Aging Humans: Current Evidence and Therapeutic Strategies” by Allyson K. Palmer and Michael D. Jensen. The Journal of Clinical Investigation 132(16), 2022. Metabolic changes in aging humans: current evidence and therapeutic strategies - PMC (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9374375/) “Sources of Body Comparison and Their Relation to Body Image Concerns Among Middle-Aged Women” by K. A. Thompson & A. M. Bardone-Cone. Eating Behaviors, 40, 101468, 2021. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.eatbeh.2020.101468 (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.eatbeh.2020.101468) “Women’s Midlife Experience of Their Changing Bodies” by Elizabeth M. Bannister. Qualitative Health Research 9(4), 1999. https://doi.org/10.1177/104973299129122045 (https://doi.org/10.1177/104973299129122045) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit what50says.substack.com (https://what50says.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

5. 

   10 May 2025

   Episode 6: Parenting Adult Children

   As children leave home and start their own lives, our relationship with them changes in joyful and challenging ways. We talk about our own experiences and share wisdom from others. Resources “Surgeon General’s Warning: Parenting May Be Hazardous to Your Health” by Daniel DeVise. USA Today, September 13, 2024. Parenting may be hazardous to your health, surgeon general warns (https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2024/09/13/parenting-hazardous-to-health-surgeon-general/75180466007/) “Parents Are Highly Involved in Their Adult Children’s Lives, and Fine with It” by Claire Cain Miller. The New York Times, February 9, 2024. Parents Are Highly Involved in Their Adult Children’s Lives, and Fine With It - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/09/upshot/parenting-young-adults-relationships.html) The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness by Jonathan Haidt. Penguin Press, 2024. Loving Your Adult Children: The Heartache of Parenting and the Hope of the Gospel by Gaye Clark. Crossway, 2024 Building a Healthy, Rewarding Relationship with Your Adult Child: Successful Strategies, Expectations, and Self-Care for Parents by Heidi Berr, 2022 Recommendations Autumn Fires by Robert Louis Stevenson Autumn Fires by Robert Louis Stevenson - Famous poems, famous poets. - All Poetry This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit what50says.substack.com (https://what50says.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

6. 

   3 May 2025

   Episode 5: Where Are We Now?

   It’s been more than a year since we came up with the idea for this project. In this episode, we talk about what we were thinking at that time about the empty nest stage, how God has used events and choices to lead us since then, and what we’re thinking about the future. Recommendations A Quiet Mind to Suffer With: Mental Illness, Trauma, and the Death of Christ by John Bryant. Lexham Press, 2023. A Quiet Mind to Suffer With: Mental Illness, Trauma, and the Death of Christ: John Bryant: 9781683597049 - Christianbook.com (https://www.christianbook.com/suffer-mental-illness-trauma-death-christ/9781683597049/pd/597049?utm_source=bing&utm_id=313107482&utm_campaign_id=313107482&kw=%2Fpd%2F&mt=b&dv=c&event=PPCSRC&p=1215904&cb_src=bing&cb_typ=search&cb_cmp=313107482&cb_adg=1241348712202415&cb_kyw=%2Fpd%2F&msclkid=72e969555b3a1426f2d101528fdc976a&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=B_Search%3A%20NB%20Dynamic%20Search%20Ads&utm_term=%2Fpd%2F&utm_content=DSA%20detail%20pages) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit what50says.substack.com (https://what50says.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

7. 

   26 Apr 2025

   Episode 4: Prayer, Reflection, and Silence

   In the first half of this episode, we talk about the role of prayer, reflection, and silence in making decisions. Then in the second half, we report back on our own experience. Resources The Tyranny of the Urgent by Charles Hummel. Link to pdf: tyranny_of_the_urgent.pdf (https://crossbridgediscipleshipschool.weebly.com/uploads/7/8/2/3/78234118/tyranny_of_the_urgent.pdf) Recommendations Learning to Love: Christian Education as a Pilgrimage by Alex Sosler. Falls City Press, 2023. Peter and the Wolf, op. 67 by Sergei Prokofiev, narrated by Leonard Bernstein. Sony Music Entertainment, 1960. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit what50says.substack.com (https://what50says.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

8. 

   19 Apr 2025

   Episode 3: Experts on Decision Making

   Resources Homo Prospectus by Martin E.P. Seligman, Peter Railton, Roy F. Baumeister, and Chandra Sripada. Oxford University Press, 2016. Homo Prospectus: 9780199374472: Medicine & Health Science Books @ Amazon.com (https://www.amazon.com/Homo-Prospectus-Martin-P-Seligman/dp/0199374473) “The Will to Believe” by William James. An address to the Philosophical Clubs of Yale and Brown Universities. 1896. Link to pdf: Microsoft Word - THE WILL TO BELIEVE by James (https://krypton.mnsu.edu/~jp6372me/THE%20WILL%20TO%20BELIEVE%20.pdf) Thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman. Farrar, Straus, and Giroux, 2013. Recommendations Wives and Daughters by Elizabeth Gaskill. Wordsworth Classics, 1999. Wives and Daughters (Wordsworth Classics): Elizabeth Cleghorn Gaskell: 9781840224160: Amazon.com: Books (https://www.amazon.com/Daughters-Wordsworth-Classics-Elizabeth-Gaskell/dp/1840224169/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3AEUH2X7ZM8XE&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.cgsn5rroO-ellavJSPZ1J0TsdP4wNaszqjwpzazb2Tm6V1PaHMGwaVsblT1mRL2yT9NC0ETJ2WYFLIrf5YloIH9AlB-R-QlJimoWADJdCwEkrsNE7rGIQ4xMrlvMXeYvbTrKypFYejKpzfnxCQnndGrOVYkO105cZncNwTLn831GGGo8wDhln7ACqix6QbTzwnLS22hKhNdDDJUNo3sukQ0f7z3rwJNfKGir_vNaw5s.GMY4nmYgfD_Tw3Qd9ja84qpc2-uNoFZdf0mt_hCRPQE&dib_tag=se&keywords=wives+and+daughters+elizabeth+gaskell&qid=1745260022&sprefix=wives+and+daughters%2Caps%2C127&sr=8-1) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit what50says.substack.com (https://what50says.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

9. 

   12 Apr 2025

   Episode 2: Biblical Foundations

   We discuss some passages from the Bible that help inform our understanding of this stage of life. Resources Titus 2 Proverbs 31 Galatians 4 Recommendations Tony Hillerman mystery novels. Amazon.com : tony hillerman books in order (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=tony+hillerman+books+in+order&adgrpid=1332608655998562&hvadid=83288430598701&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=91781&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvtargid=kwd-83288380250433%3Aloc-190&hydadcr=22158_13576444&mcid=e19e8d31b89a3ffbab9e689f3ed45390&msclkid=2dc2d8cdfe481e0c9a53b0cb765c8ae6&tag=mh0b-20&ref=pd_sl_2ravn9w9yh_e) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit what50says.substack.com (https://what50says.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

10. 

    5 Apr 2025

    Episode 1: Foundational Concepts for the Empty Nest Stage

    Where did the idea of an “empty nest” come from? Is this a difficult stage for moms or the best time of our lives? We talk about what both some popular and some scholarly literature says about this stage. Resources “The ‘Empty Nest’: A Transition within Motherhood,” by Donald Spence and Thomas Lonner. The Family Coordinator 20(4), pp. 369-375, 1971. https://www.jstor.org/stable/582168 (https://www.jstor.org/stable/582168) Lost in the Middle: Midlife and the Grace of God, by Paul Tripp, 2004. Recommendations Death Comes for the Archbishop, by Willa Cather. Global Publishers, 2024. Understood Betsy, by Dorothy Canfield Fisher. Ayvx, 1996. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit what50says.substack.com (https://what50says.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

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