What Follows

About What Follows

Airhart’s aviation podcast hosted by Nate Thuli, exploring the people and ideas shaping the future of flight. whatfollowspodcast.substack.com (https://whatfollowspodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast)

Publisher

Hosted by Nate Thuli

Category

business · leisure

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

19 May 2026

Latest episode

14 Aug 2026

Latest episodes

15 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   14 Aug 2026

   David Edwards on 160 Years of Aerospace and What Comes Next

   Welcome to this episode of What Follows - the podcast where we explore the people shaping aviation today, and the ideas defining what comes next. In this episode, host Nate Thuli speaks with David “Dave” Edwards, Chief Executive of the Royal Aeronautical Society, about a life in aviation and the responsibility of leading one of the world’s oldest aerospace institutions. Dave traces his path from earning a pilot’s license at 17 through roles spanning airlines, business aviation, charter operations, Gama Aviation, Wheels Up, and Qatar Executive. The conversation looks back to the Royal Aeronautical Society’s founding in 1866, when questions about bird flight and aerial navigation pointed toward a future that had not yet arrived. Dave identifies the moments that changed aerospace, from powered flight and global navigation to systems management, space exploration, automation, and artificial intelligence. His central lesson is that innovation rarely moves in a straight line: ideas return when technology, economics, regulation, and public trust are finally ready. Nate and Dave also examine what greater autonomy could mean for pilots, passengers, and the wider aviation system. They discuss the difference between technical capability and public acceptance, why safety and trust must develop alongside automation, and how humans and machines may share responsibility in future flight operations. The episode closes by turning from history to stewardship. Dave explains why the future of aerospace depends on giving young people access, inspiration, and room to create their own defining moments. From Kitty Hawk to the next breakthrough in aviation or space, progress continues when one generation is prepared to pass the torch to the next. Key Topics Earning a pilot’s license at 17 and building a career across commercial and business aviation Leadership at the Royal Aeronautical Society and the responsibility of stewarding a 160-year institution The Society’s 1866 origins in questions about bird flight and aerial navigation Major inflection points in aerospace history and the conditions that made them possible The evolution from direct aircraft control to navigation, automation, and systems management Current innovations shaping the future of aviation and aerospace The expanding role of space exploration within the aerospace imagination Artificial intelligence, automation, and the future division of responsibility in flight The gap between technological capability, regulatory acceptance, and passenger trust Human-machine collaboration in safety-critical environments Why older aerospace ideas often return when enabling technologies catch up Kitty Hawk as a reminder that transformative moments can initially appear modest Creating access and inspiration for the next generation of aerospace professionals Key Frameworks Aerial Navigation Evolution: aerospace progressed from the challenge of controlling flight to navigating, coordinating, and managing increasingly complex systems Technology Adoption Curve in Aerospace: invention alone is insufficient; certification, economics, infrastructure, safety evidence, and public trust determine when an idea becomes operational reality Human-Machine Collaboration: automation is most credible when roles, accountability, oversight, and intervention are clearly designed Circular Innovation: concepts can disappear and return as materials, computing, energy systems, regulation, or market conditions change Institutional Stewardship: the value of a long-lived professional society lies in preserving knowledge while creating pathways for the people who will surpass it Themes This episode treats aerospace history as a living source of perspective rather than a museum of completed achievements. The Royal Aeronautical Society began before powered flight, when even the language of aerial navigation was aspirational. Dave’s account shows how professional communities help difficult questions survive long enough for science, engineering, and society to answer them. A second theme is that technological readiness and human readiness are different. AI may be capable of performing more flight-deck functions, but capability does not automatically create confidence. Trust emerges through evidence, transparency, regulation, experience, and a clear understanding of where responsibility sits when systems make decisions. The conversation also presents innovation as cyclical. Aerospace repeatedly revisits ideas that once exceeded the available technology or business case. What appears new may be an older ambition made practical by better computing, materials, propulsion, navigation, or infrastructure. Recognizing that pattern helps distinguish enduring problems from temporary hype. Finally, Dave frames leadership as stewardship across generations. The Society’s relevance depends not only on what it preserves, but on whether it enables young people to imagine a future larger than the present. The next Kitty Hawk moment may be difficult to recognize when it arrives; the task is to ensure that the people capable of creating it have somewhere to begin. Resources Royal Aeronautical Society Official Website - https://www.aerosociety.com (https://www.aerosociety.com) Royal Aeronautical Society - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Aeronautical_Society (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Aeronautical_Society) Royal Aeronautical Society: Welcome to Our Chief Executive - https://www.aerosociety.com/news/welcome-raes-new-chief-executive/ (https://www.aerosociety.com/news/welcome-raes-new-chief-executive/) Guest Links LinkedIn - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/daifly (https://uk.linkedin.com/in/daifly) Royal Aeronautical Society - https://www.aerosociety.com (https://www.aerosociety.com) Credits Host: Nate ThuliMusic: Eugeny BardyuzhaArtwork: Edmond HuotProduced by: Helwing Villamizar Follow Airhart Visit Airhart and follow along for new What Follows episodes, clips, and updates. Website: Airhart (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/aa7652b0-ecc4-48a5-827e-9df1fc083590?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)YouTube: Airhart on YouTube (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/69e342be-ce11-4583-8ce1-6ba332a26da8?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)LinkedIn: Airhart on LinkedIn (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/cd213b8b-2f0a-4b71-813b-ac920ab2fb5b?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)Instagram: Airhart on Instagram (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/76a15650-92b4-45cc-ae15-007687477984?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatfollowspodcast.substack.com (https://whatfollowspodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

2. 

   30 Jul 2026

   Andrew Broom on Innovation, Safety, and the Future of Business Aviation

   Welcome to this episode of What Follows - the podcast where we explore the people shaping aviation today and the ideas defining what comes next. In this episode, host Nate Thuli speaks with Andrew Broom about a career shaped by early exposure to aviation, the guidance of mentors, and a willingness to move between startups, established manufacturers, and industry organizations. Andrew traces the path from the air show that first captured his imagination through flight training, business education, and leadership roles across a rapidly changing aerospace industry. The conversation explores the rise of the very light jet market, the lessons Andrew carried from Eclipse and Hawker, and the engineering philosophy behind HondaJet. Andrew explains why meaningful innovation extends beyond a single aircraft feature: it depends on manufacturing discipline, customer understanding, strong networks, and a safety culture that develops alongside the technology. Nate and Andrew also examine the mission of the National Business Aviation Association, the opportunities and pressures facing business aviation, and the industry’s response to sustainability concerns. They discuss lean startup thinking, artificial intelligence, emerging technologies, and the challenge of introducing new ideas in a sector where reliability and safety remain non-negotiable. The episode closes with a reflection on community. From mentorship and professional networks to gatherings such as EAA AirVenture Oshkosh, Andrew shows how aviation advances when people share experience, create access for newcomers, and remain open to what comes next. This episode was recorded before EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2026. Key Topics * The air show and early influences that sparked Andrew Broom’s interest in aviation * Meeting aviation heroes, finding mentors, and building a professional network * Flight training, early challenges, and the decision to pursue a business education * Lessons from Eclipse, Hawker, and a turbulent period in the light jet market * Innovation in aircraft design, manufacturing, customer experience, and operations * HondaJet’s unconventional engineering approach and broader culture of innovation * The relationship between technological progress and a strong aviation safety culture * NBAA’s role in advocacy, education, access, and support for business aviation * Current opportunities and structural challenges across the business aviation sector * Sustainability commitments, environmental scrutiny, and the goal of net zero by 2050 * Applying lean startup principles within a highly regulated, safety-critical industry * The integration of artificial intelligence and emerging technologies in aviation * Why mentorship, professional associations, and community remain central to the industry * The value of major gatherings such as EAA AirVenture Oshkosh Resources Andrew Broom LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewbroom (https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewbroom) NBAA Official Website - https://nbaa.org (https://nbaa.org) HondaJet - https://hondajet.com (https://hondajet.com) Eclipse Jet - https://eclipse.aero (https://eclipse.aero) Citation Jet Association - https://citationjet.org (https://citationjet.org) Additional media courtesy of Honda Aircraft Company, Eclipse Aerospace, and the National Business Aviation Association (NBAA). Guest Links LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewbroom (https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewbroom) NBAA - https://nbaa.org (https://nbaa.org) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatfollowspodcast.substack.com (https://whatfollowspodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

3. 

   16 Jul 2026

   Meet Kate Broug at AirVenture Oshkosh 2026

   If you’re attending EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2026, join Kate Broug and Nate Thuli on Saturday, July 25, 2026, for a special meet-and-greet at the Airhart Festival Tent. Kate is a pilot, explorer, journalist, documentary filmmaker, and aviation storyteller whose work brings the world of flight to life for audiences around the globe. During this informal conversation, Kate and Nate will discuss aviation, historic aircraft, documentary filmmaking, remarkable adventures, and the stories behind the stories. Kate will also share how aviation storytelling can inspire new audiences to discover flight. The event is free, but seating is limited. Register in advance through the Eventbrite link below or through the link in Kate’s Instagram bio. Register for the Meet-and-Greet Saturday, July 25, 2026, at 10:30 a.m. CDT Register here: https://airhartmeetkatebroug.eventbrite.com (https://airhartmeetkatebroug.eventbrite.com) Event Details Event: Meet Kate Broug — Bringing Aviation to LifeGuest: Kate BrougDate: Saturday, July 25, 2026Time: 10:30 a.m. CDTLocation: Airhart Festival Tent, Booth 439Venue: EAA AirVenture OshkoshAdmission: Free registration About Kate Broug Kate Broug is a pilot, explorer, journalist, documentary filmmaker, and aviation storyteller. Through her films, reporting, and global adventures, she shares the people, aircraft, history, and experiences that make aviation compelling. Follow Kate on Instagram for her latest aviation stories, films, and adventures: https://www.instagram.com/katebroug/reels/ (https://www.instagram.com/katebroug/reels/) Resources Meet Kate Broug — Event Registration https://airhartmeetkatebroug.eventbrite.com (https://airhartmeetkatebroug.eventbrite.com) Kate Broug on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/katebroug/reels/ (https://www.instagram.com/katebroug/reels/) Airhart Aeronautics https://airhartaero.com (https://airhartaero.com) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatfollowspodcast.substack.com (https://whatfollowspodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

4. 

   15 Jul 2026

   Aircraft Financing: Learn from an Industry Insider at EAA AirVenture 2026

   If you’re considering buying an airplane, upgrading your avionics, or simply trying to understand how aircraft financing works, this special promo episode of What Follows highlights an upcoming session at the Airhart Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent. Tripp Thurston, President of FLYING Finance, joins the Airhart Festival Tent program to explain today’s aircraft-lending landscape in plain English. Tripp has helped pilots and aircraft owners finance everything from light-sport aircraft to turbine airplanes. During the session, attendees will learn what lenders are really looking for, how to budget for the true cost of aircraft ownership, and which financing options may be available for aircraft and avionics upgrades. Tripp will also explain why the lowest advertised interest rate is not always the best overall financing deal. Whether you’re a first-time aircraft buyer, an experienced owner, a homebuilder, or someone just beginning your aviation journey, the session will offer practical information you can use. The presentation will conclude with a live audience Q&A. Airhart Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent Program Tickets Attendance is free, but space is limited. Register using this link or by clicking/tapping the event image below: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/airhart-oshkosh-2026-festival-tent-program-tickets-1992591634217 (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/airhart-oshkosh-2026-festival-tent-program-tickets-1992591634217) Event Details Session: Aircraft Financing: Learn from an Industry InsiderGuest: Tripp Thurston, President, FLYING FinanceDate: Wednesday, July 22, 2026Time: 1:00 PMLocation: Airhart Festival Tent, Booth 439Venue: EAA AirVenture Oshkosh, WisconsinAdmission: Free registration What You’ll Learn * What aircraft lenders consider when reviewing an application * How to calculate the true cost of aircraft ownership * Financing options for aircraft purchases * Financing options for avionics upgrades * Why the lowest interest rate may not be the best deal * Questions to ask before choosing an aircraft loan Who Should Attend * First-time aircraft buyers * Current aircraft owners * Pilots considering an avionics upgrade * Experimental and homebuilt-aircraft owners * Aviation students and future pilots * Anyone interested in understanding aircraft financing Resources Airhart Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent Programhttps://www.eventbrite.com/e/airhart-oshkosh-2026-festival-tent-program-tickets-1992591634217 (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/airhart-oshkosh-2026-festival-tent-program-tickets-1992591634217) EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2026https://www.eaa.org/airventure (https://www.eaa.org/airventure) EAA AirVenture Ticketshttps://www.eaa.org/airventure/eaa-airventure-tickets (https://www.eaa.org/airventure/eaa-airventure-tickets) Airhart Aeronautics https://airhartaero.com (https://airhartaero.com) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatfollowspodcast.substack.com (https://whatfollowspodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

5. 

   10 Jul 2026

   Airhart Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent Program

   If you’re listening before July 20, you’re probably getting ready for aviation’s biggest event of the year: EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2026. In this special promo episode of What Follows, we highlight the Airhart Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent Program, taking place during AirVenture at EAA AirVenture in Oshkosh, Wisconsin. Visit the Airhart Festival Tent for complimentary educational programming, guest speakers, meet-and-greets, giveaways, hands-on experiences, and Airhart avionics simulator demos. Whether you’re a pilot, student, aviation fan, builder, future flyer, or first-time Oshkosh attendee, this is a chance to connect with people shaping the future of aviation. Airhart Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent Program Tickets Register free today and visit the Airhart Festival Tent during EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2026! Register using this link or by clicking/tapping the image below: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/airhart-oshkosh-2026-festival-tent-program-tickets-1992591634217 (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/airhart-oshkosh-2026-festival-tent-program-tickets-1992591634217) Event Details Event: Airhart Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent ProgramLocation: EAA AirVenture, 3000 Poberezny Road, Oshkosh, WI 54902Dates: Monday, July 20 – Sunday, July 26, 2026Time: 10:00 AM – 12:00 PMAdmission: Free registration Program Highlights Hands-on Airhart avionics simulator experiencesFree educational programmingLive demos and giveawaysGuest speakers and meet-and-greetsAviation career, training, finance, and technology conversationsProgramming for pilots, students, aviation fans, and future flyers Featured Guests and Programming Fly Our Sim — Book Now, Limited Free SlotsLinda SollarsHayley HerbergAviNationTripp Thurston, President, FLYING FinanceKate BrougDavid Valaer, former fighter pilot and CEO of Green Taxi Related Airhart Oshkosh Events Aviator Linda Sollars — Adventure Planning: Cross-Country and FartherMonday, July 20 — 1:00 PM Meet Hayley Herberg of Fly With HayleyTuesday, July 21 — 12:00 PM Linda Sollars — Learn About MOSAIC from an InsiderTuesday, July 21 — 2:00 PM Aircraft Financing: Learn from an Industry InsiderWednesday, July 22 — 1:00 PM Meet Former Fighter Pilot David Valaer Turned Aerospace ExecutiveThursday, July 23 — 1:00 PM Resources Airhart Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent Program — https://www.eventbrite.com/e/airhart-oshkosh-2026-festival-tent-program-tickets-1992591634217 (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/airhart-oshkosh-2026-festival-tent-program-tickets-1992591634217) EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2026 — https://www.eaa.org/airventure (https://www.eaa.org/airventure) EAA AirVenture Tickets — https://www.eaa.org/airventure/eaa-airventure-tickets (https://www.eaa.org/airventure/eaa-airventure-tickets) Airhart Aeronautics — https://airhartaero.com (https://airhartaero.com) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatfollowspodcast.substack.com (https://whatfollowspodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

6. 

   10 Jul 2026

   Ben Klein on Aero, Private Air Travel, and the Future of Urban Mobility

   Welcome to this episode of What Follows — the podcast where we explore the people shaping aviation today, and the ideas defining what comes next. In this episode, host Nate Thuli speaks with Ben Klein, CEO of Aero, about his journey from passionate aviator to aviation executive, and how Aero is rethinking private air travel through design, hospitality, safety, and customer experience. Ben discusses how aviation creates freedom, why safety remains the foundation of the industry, and how new technologies may reshape the way people move between cities, airports, and regional destinations. The conversation explores Aero’s approach to premium air travel, the role of regulation in aviation innovation, and the future of urban air mobility, eVTOLs, and door-to-door travel. Nate and Ben also discuss customer trust, the adoption of new aviation technologies, and why the future of flight depends on combining operational discipline with a better travel experience. Key Topics Ben Klein’s aviation journey and passion for flightThe path from pilot to CEOAero’s approach to private and premium air travelBridging the gap between commercial and private aviationCustomer experience and hospitality in aviationSafety protocols and operational disciplineThe role of trust in adopting aviation technologyUrban air mobility and future travel modelseVTOLs and door-to-door transportationRegulatory challenges in aviation innovationTechnology, safety, and customer confidenceThe future of regional and urban air travel Tickets to Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent Program Click image or the following link to get tickets to Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent Program: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/airhart-oshkosh-2026-festival-tent-program-tickets-1992591634217?aff=oddtdtcreator (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/2b009e64-aef4-4c9a-a78c-f14e93739bae?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4) Themes This episode focuses on how aviation innovation is shaped not only by aircraft and technology, but by safety, trust, regulation, and customer experience. Ben Klein frames aviation as a form of freedom, while also emphasizing that freedom depends on disciplined operations and a deep commitment to safety. A major theme is the evolution of premium and private air travel. Through Aero, the conversation explores how aviation companies can rethink the passenger experience by combining private-terminal convenience, high-touch hospitality, and operational reliability. The episode also looks ahead to urban air mobility, eVTOLs, and the possibility of more seamless door-to-door travel. Resources Aero Official Website — https://aero.com (https://aero.com) FAA Advanced Air Mobility / Air Taxis — https://www.faa.gov/air-taxis (https://www.faa.gov/air-taxis) FAA Aircraft Certification — https://www.faa.gov/aircraft/air_cert (https://www.faa.gov/aircraft/air_cert) Joby Aviation Official Website — https://www.jobyaviation.com (https://www.jobyaviation.com) Hermeus Supersonic Flight Announcement — https://www.hermeus.com/newsroom-content/supersonic (https://www.hermeus.com/newsroom-content/supersonic) Hermeus Official Website — https://www.hermeus.com (https://www.hermeus.com) Guest Links Ben Klein on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-klein-01b8736 (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-klein-01b8736) Aero — https://aero.com (https://aero.com) Credits Host: Nate ThuliMusic: Eugeny BardyuzhaArtwork: Edmond HuotProduced by: Helwing Villamizar Additional Media Additional footage and media courtesy of the featured guests and their respective companies, including Airhart, Draco Aircraft, AviNation, Scaled Composites, and EAA. Follow Airhart Visit Airhart and follow along for new What Follows episodes, clips, and updates. Website: Airhart (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/aa7652b0-ecc4-48a5-827e-9df1fc083590?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)YouTube: Airhart on YouTube (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/69e342be-ce11-4583-8ce1-6ba332a26da8?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)LinkedIn: Airhart on LinkedIn (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/cd213b8b-2f0a-4b71-813b-ac920ab2fb5b?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)Instagram: Airhart on Instagram (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/76a15650-92b4-45cc-ae15-007687477984?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatfollowspodcast.substack.com (https://whatfollowspodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

7. 

   7 Jul 2026

   Dick Knapinski on AirVenture Oshkosh and Aviation’s Family Reunion

   Welcome to this episode of What Follows - the podcast where we explore the people shaping aviation today, and the ideas defining what comes next. In this episode, host Nate Thuli speaks with Dick Knapinski, Director of Communications of the Experimental Aircraft Association (EAA), about the history, community, and enduring pull of EAA AirVenture Oshkosh. From its beginnings as a small fly-in gathering to its evolution into aviation’s annual global reunion, Dick explains what makes Oshkosh unlike any other event in the world. Dick reflects on why people may arrive for the airplanes, but return for the people. The conversation explores the family traditions, volunteer culture, youth programs, and chance encounters that turn AirVenture into a place where newcomers, builders, pilots, mechanics, enthusiasts, and aviation legends all share the same flight line. Nate and Dick also discuss Young Eagles, KidVenture, aviation accessibility, military aircraft, hands-on education, product discovery, and the forums and workshops that help visitors become more confident aviators. Together, they show why AirVenture is more than an airshow: it is a living aviation city built around belonging, learning, and the freedom to fly. Key Topics * The origins and evolution of EAA AirVenture, from Milwaukee to Rockford to Oshkosh * Why AirVenture has grown into a global gathering for every kind of aviator * Dick Knapinski’s first visit to Oshkosh and his decades on the EAA staff * Why visitors come for the airplanes and return for the people * AirVenture as an intergenerational family tradition and volunteer-driven community * KidVenture, Young Eagles, and creating a first meaningful encounter with flight * Making aviation feel accessible to children, families, and newcomers * Community airports and the value of preserving local access to aviation * Meeting aviation legends and the unexpected encounters that happen at Oshkosh * AirVenture as a major marketplace for aircraft, avionics, upgrades, and aviation services * Military aviation at AirVenture, from Boeing Plaza to rare aircraft experiences * Forums, workshops, and lifelong learning for pilots, builders, and enthusiasts * How to plan an AirVenture visit: the app, the map, the museum, the seaplane base, and more * Volunteer culture, shared stewardship, and making AirVenture your own Tickets to Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent Program Click image or the following link to get tickets to Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent Program: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/airhart-oshkosh-2026-festival-tent-program-tickets-1992591634217?aff=oddtdtcreator (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/airhart-oshkosh-2026-festival-tent-program-tickets-1992591634217?aff=oddtdtcreator) Themes This episode centers on AirVenture Oshkosh as a place of belonging. Dick Knapinski presents the event not simply as an airshow or trade gathering, but as a yearly homecoming for aviation: a place where people can find their own community, whether they build airplanes, fly ultralights, restore warbirds, manage a local airport, or are seeing an airplane up close for the first time. A major theme is accessibility. Through Young Eagles flights, KidVenture, family programming, free entry for young people, open conversations with pilots and exhibitors, and hands-on education, the aviation community can lower the psychological barriers that make flight seem distant or inaccessible. The episode argues that a first touch of an airplane, a first flight, or a first conversation with a pilot can shape a lifelong relationship with aviation. Another theme is the balance of heritage and progress. AirVenture brings together vintage aircraft, military history, flight testing, modern avionics, emerging technology, and future-focused education. Its real strength is not choosing between tradition and innovation, but allowing both to live together in a community that keeps learning, sharing, and looking ahead. Resources EAA Official Website - https://www.eaa.org (https://www.eaa.org) EAA AirVenture Oshkosh - https://www.eaa.org/airventure (https://www.eaa.org/airventure) Young Eagles Program - https://www.eaa.org/eaa/youth/young-eagles (https://www.eaa.org/eaa/youth/young-eagles) EAA Aviation Museum - https://www.eaa.org/eaa-museum (https://www.eaa.org/eaa-museum) EAA Chapters - https://www.eaa.org/eaa/eaa-chapters (https://www.eaa.org/eaa/eaa-chapters) Guest Links EAA - https://www.eaa.org (https://www.eaa.org) EAA AirVenture Oshkosh - https://www.eaa.org/airventure (https://www.eaa.org/airventure) Credits Host: Nate ThuliMusic: Eugeny BardyuzhaArtwork: Edmond HuotProduced by: Helwing Villamizar Additional Media Additional footage and media courtesy of the featured guests and their respective companies, including Airhart, Draco Aircraft, AviNation, Scaled Composites, and EAA. Follow Airhart Visit Airhart and follow along for new What Follows episodes, clips, and updates. Website: Airhart (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/aa7652b0-ecc4-48a5-827e-9df1fc083590?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)YouTube: Airhart on YouTube (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/69e342be-ce11-4583-8ce1-6ba332a26da8?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)LinkedIn: Airhart on LinkedIn (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/cd213b8b-2f0a-4b71-813b-ac920ab2fb5b?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)Instagram: Airhart on Instagram (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/76a15650-92b4-45cc-ae15-007687477984?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatfollowspodcast.substack.com (https://whatfollowspodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

8. 

   2 Jul 2026

   David Szondy on AI, Drones, and the Evolution of Aviation Technology

   Welcome to this episode of What Follows — the podcast where we explore the people shaping aviation today, and the ideas defining what comes next. In this episode, host Nate Thuli speaks with David Szondy about technological innovation, the burden of being a first mover, and how human competence evolves alongside new tools, systems, and machines. The conversation begins with the history of technology: why breakthrough ideas are often misunderstood at first, how inventions move through cycles of experimentation and refinement, and why storytelling matters when explaining complex technological change. Nate and David also discuss the role of play, curiosity, and problem-solving in shaping the technologies that eventually transform society. The episode then turns to aviation and aerospace, exploring AI, drones, electric propulsion, pilot automation, air traffic management, and the future of accessible flight. David reflects on both the promise and the limitations of emerging technologies, arguing that the future of aviation will depend not only on invention, but on how well people, systems, and institutions adapt to change. Key Topics First mover disadvantage and the challenge of educating the marketThe history of technology and misunderstood inventionsHow human competence evolves alongside new toolsThe role of play, curiosity, and experimentation in innovationThe iterative loop between problems and solutionsWhy storytelling matters in explaining technological changeComplex interactions between history, technology, and societyEmerging trends in aviation and aerospaceAI as a tool for improving pilot performanceThe rise of drones in military and civil aviationElectric propulsion and battery limitationsPilot automation and the future role of pilotsThe democratization of aviation and the flying car debateDecentralized air traffic managementWhy smaller players can drive aviation innovation Themes This episode explores technology as a living, iterative process rather than a simple line of progress. Nate and David discuss how innovations emerge through trial, failure, play, competition, and storytelling — and how first movers often carry the burden of explaining ideas before the market is ready for them. In aviation, the conversation focuses on the next wave of transformation: AI-assisted pilots, drones, electric propulsion, advanced air mobility, and more decentralized air traffic systems. Rather than presenting technology as a replacement for human skill, the episode frames it as a tool that can expand competence, improve safety, and open new possibilities for flight. Resources David Szondy — New Atlas Author Profile — https://newatlas.com/author/david-szondy/ (https://newatlas.com/author/david-szondy/) FAA Unmanned Aircraft Systems — https://www.faa.gov/uas (https://www.faa.gov/uas) FAA Advanced Air Mobility / Air Taxis — https://www.faa.gov/air-taxis (https://www.faa.gov/air-taxis) FAA Next Generation Air Transportation System — https://www.faa.gov/nextgen (https://www.faa.gov/nextgen) NASA Advanced Air Mobility Mission — https://www.nasa.gov/mission/advanced-air-mobility/ (https://www.nasa.gov/mission/advanced-air-mobility/) NASA Air Traffic Management and Safety Project — https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/armd/aosp/atms/ (https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/armd/aosp/atms/) NASA Electrified Powertrain Flight Demonstration Project — https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/armd/iasp/epfd/ (https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/armd/iasp/epfd/) Credits Host: Nate ThuliMusic: Eugeny BardyuzhaArtwork: Edmond HuotProduced by: Helwing Villamizar Additional Media Additional footage and media courtesy of the featured guests and their respective companies, including Airhart, Draco Aircraft, AviNation, Scaled Composites, and EAA. Follow Airhart Visit Airhart and follow along for new What Follows episodes, clips, and updates. Website: Airhart (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/aa7652b0-ecc4-48a5-827e-9df1fc083590?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)YouTube: Airhart on YouTube (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/69e342be-ce11-4583-8ce1-6ba332a26da8?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)LinkedIn: Airhart on LinkedIn (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/cd213b8b-2f0a-4b71-813b-ac920ab2fb5b?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)Instagram: Airhart on Instagram (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/76a15650-92b4-45cc-ae15-007687477984?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatfollowspodcast.substack.com (https://whatfollowspodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

9. 

   25 Jun 2026

   Hal Bryan on EAA, AirVenture, and Inspiring the Next Generation of Aviation

   Welcome to this episode of What Follows — the podcast where we explore the people shaping aviation today, and the ideas defining what comes next. In this episode, host Nate Thuli speaks with Hal Bryan of the Experimental Aircraft Association about the aviation community, youth engagement, flight training, aircraft restoration, and the role EAA plays in keeping aviation accessible and inspiring. Hal shares his own aviation origin story, from growing up around aircraft to becoming an influential voice in the aviation community. The conversation explores how EAA connects people through hands-on learning, restoration projects, Young Eagles flights, AirVenture Oshkosh, and a shared love of flight. Nate and Hal also discuss the balance between tradition and innovation in aviation, from vintage aircraft and fundamental stick-and-rudder skills to modern avionics, autopilots, and flight simulation technology. Together, they examine how aviation can remain both technically advanced and deeply human. Key Topics Hal Bryan’s aviation origin storyThe mission and evolution of EAAHow EAA builds community across aviationYoung Eagles and youth engagement in aviationMaking aviation more accessible to new generationsAirVenture Oshkosh as a global aviation gatheringAircraft restoration and hands-on learningThe relationship between vintage and modern aviationFlight simulation and aviation educationPilot competence in a technology-driven eraBalancing automation with fundamental flying skillsThe future of general aviation and innovation Key Frameworks Aviation community buildingYouth engagement in aviationAccessibility as a driver of participationTradition and innovation in general aviationHands-on learning and aircraft restorationTechnology, simulation, and pilot competence Themes This episode focuses on aviation as a community built through access, mentorship, history, and shared experience. Hal Bryan presents EAA not only as an organization, but as a living network of pilots, builders, restorers, educators, and enthusiasts working to keep aviation approachable and inspiring. A major theme is the balance between old and new: vintage aircraft and modern avionics, hands-on mechanical knowledge and digital simulation, fundamental pilot skills and advanced automation. The conversation shows how aviation’s future depends on preserving its traditions while continuing to invite new people into the sky. Resources EAA Official Website — https://www.eaa.org (https://www.eaa.org) Young Eagles Program — https://www.eaa.org/eaa/youth/young-eagles (https://www.eaa.org/eaa/youth/young-eagles) EAA AirVenture Oshkosh — https://www.eaa.org/airventure (https://www.eaa.org/airventure) Microsoft Flight Simulator — https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/flight-simulator (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/flight-simulator) Flight Simulator Official Website — https://www.flightsimulator.com (https://www.flightsimulator.com) Guest Links Hal Bryan on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/halbryan (https://www.linkedin.com/in/halbryan) EAA — https://www.eaa.org (https://www.eaa.org) Credits Host: Nate ThuliMusic: Eugeny BardyuzhaArtwork: Edmond HuotProduced by: Helwing Villamizar Additional Media Additional footage and media courtesy of the featured guests and their respective companies, including Airhart, Draco Aircraft, AviNation, Scaled Composites, and EAA. Follow Airhart Visit Airhart and follow along for new What Follows episodes, clips, and updates.Website: Airhart (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/aa7652b0-ecc4-48a5-827e-9df1fc083590?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)YouTube: Airhart on YouTube (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/69e342be-ce11-4583-8ce1-6ba332a26da8?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)LinkedIn: Airhart on LinkedIn (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/cd213b8b-2f0a-4b71-813b-ac920ab2fb5b?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)Instagram: Airhart on Instagram (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/76a15650-92b4-45cc-ae15-007687477984?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatfollowspodcast.substack.com (https://whatfollowspodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

10. 

    18 Jun 2026

    Peter Manice on Seaplanes, Electric Aircraft, and the Future of Regional

    Welcome to this episode of What Follows — the podcast where we explore the people shaping aviation today, and the ideas defining what comes next. In this episode, host Nate Thuli speaks with Peter Manice about the future of aviation, regional mobility, and the changing ways people may move between cities, airports, and coastal communities. The conversation explores the promise of seaplane services, electric aircraft, eVTOL technology, and urban air mobility, while also examining the regulatory, economic, and infrastructure challenges that determine whether new aviation ideas can actually scale. Peter discusses how time savings, customer acceptance, safety, certification, and aircraft design all influence the future of regional travel. From seaplanes to electric aircraft, the episode examines how aviation innovation could make short-distance travel faster, more flexible, and more practical. Key Topics The future of aviation and regional mobilityPeter Manice’s journey into aviationSeaplane services and regional travelTime efficiency in short-distance aviationElectric aircraft and eVTOL technologyUrban air mobility and new travel modelsFAA regulation, certification, and safetyCustomer education and public acceptanceInfrastructure needs for future air mobilityThe economics of aviation innovationThe future of electric and hybrid aircraftHow aircraft design is evolving Key Frameworks Physics vs. economics in aviationRegulatory hurdles in aviation innovationThe future of electric and hybrid aircraftUrban air mobility infrastructureCustomer acceptance and educationSafety as a condition for scalability Themes This episode focuses on the practical side of aviation innovation. Peter Manice explores why promising aircraft concepts must work not only technically, but economically, operationally, and socially. The conversation frames the future of regional mobility as a balance between physics, regulation, infrastructure, and customer behavior. Seaplanes, electric aircraft, and eVTOLs may open new possibilities, but their success will depend on safety, certification, public trust, and their ability to solve real transportation problems better than existing options. Resources FAA Aircraft Certification — https://www.faa.gov/aircraft/air_cert (https://www.faa.gov/aircraft/air_cert) FAA Airworthiness Certification Process — https://www.faa.gov/aircraft/air_cert/airworthiness_certification (https://www.faa.gov/aircraft/air_cert/airworthiness_certification) FAA Advanced Air Mobility / Air Taxis — https://www.faa.gov/air-taxis (https://www.faa.gov/air-taxis) FAA Advanced Air Mobility Infrastructure —https://www.faa.gov/airports/new_entrants/aam_infrastructure (https://www.faa.gov/airports/new_entrants/aam_infrastructure) Joby Aviation Official Website — https://www.jobyaviation.com REGENT Seaglider Technology — https://www.regentcraft.com Guest Links LinkedIn — https://linkedin.com/in/petermanice (https://linkedin.com/in/petermanice) Credits Host: Nate ThuliMusic: Eugeny BardyuzhaArtwork: Edmond HuotProduced by: Helwing Villamizar Additional Media Additional footage and media courtesy of the featured guests and their respective companies, including Airhart, Draco Aircraft, AviNation, Scaled Composites, and EAA. Follow Airhart Visit Airhart and follow along for new What Follows episodes, clips, and updates.Website: Airhart (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/aa7652b0-ecc4-48a5-827e-9df1fc083590?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)YouTube: Airhart on YouTube (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/69e342be-ce11-4583-8ce1-6ba332a26da8?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)LinkedIn: Airhart on LinkedIn (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/cd213b8b-2f0a-4b71-813b-ac920ab2fb5b?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)Instagram: Airhart on Instagram (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/76a15650-92b4-45cc-ae15-007687477984?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatfollowspodcast.substack.com (https://whatfollowspodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

11. 

    11 Jun 2026

    Greg Morris on Scaled Composites, Flight Testing, and Human-Centered Innovation

    Welcome to this episode of What Follows — the podcast where we explore the people shaping aviation today, and the ideas defining what comes next. In this episode, host Nate Thuli speaks with Greg Morris of Scaled Composites about his journey from childhood aviation enthusiast to a leader in experimental aerospace and flight testing. Greg reflects on the culture of innovation at Scaled Composites, the importance of mission-focused design, and how teams learn, share knowledge, and manage risk when working at the edge of aerospace development. The conversation explores the balance between tradition and new technology, the role of test pilots, and why aviation systems must be designed around the human in the loop. Nate and Greg also discuss automation, cockpit confidence, organizational culture, and the future of aviation technology — from experimental aircraft to the next generation of aerospace innovation. Key Topics Greg Morris’s aviation career path and early passion for flightFlight testing and test pilot educationThe culture of innovation at Scaled CompositesBalancing vintage aviation and future-facing technologyRisk management in experimental aerospaceOrganizational learning and knowledge sharingLeadership, legacy, and team cultureHuman-centered systems and automation designThe role of confidence in the cockpitMission-based optimization in aviation systemsEmerging technologies in aviation and aerospaceEncouraging the next generation of aviation innovators Key Frameworks Mission-based optimizationOne-way vs. two-way risk managementHuman-centered automationOrganizational culture in aerospace innovationHuman factors in aviation systemsBalancing automation with pilot judgment Themes This episode centers on the culture behind aerospace innovation. Greg Morris shows that breakthrough aviation work is not only about technology, but about teams, trust, learning, and a clear understanding of mission and risk. A major theme is the relationship between humans and machines. Rather than treating automation as a replacement for pilots, the conversation frames technology as something that must be designed around human judgment, confidence, and responsibility. At Scaled Composites, innovation depends on both forward-looking engineering and a deep respect for the human in the loop. Resources Scaled Composites: https://scaled.com/ JetZero Project: https://www.jetzero.org/ Burt Rutan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burt_Rutan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burt_Rutan) Tiger Check by Stephen Fino: https://www.amazon.com/Tiger-Check-Development-Combat-Effectiveness/dp/0897470954 (https://www.amazon.com/Tiger-Check-Development-Combat-Effectiveness/dp/0897470954) Guest Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-morris/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-morris/) Twitter / X": https://twitter.com/gregmorris (https://twitter.com/gregmorris) Credits Host: Nate ThuliMusic: Eugeny BardyuzhaArtwork: Edmond HuotProduced by: Helwing Villamizar Additional Media Additional footage and media courtesy of the featured guests and their respective companies, including Airhart, Draco Aircraft, AviNation, Scaled Composites, and EAA. Follow Airhart Visit Airhart and follow along for new What Follows episodes, clips, and updates. Website: Airhart (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/aa7652b0-ecc4-48a5-827e-9df1fc083590?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)YouTube: Airhart on YouTube (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/69e342be-ce11-4583-8ce1-6ba332a26da8?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)LinkedIn: Airhart on LinkedIn (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/cd213b8b-2f0a-4b71-813b-ac920ab2fb5b?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)Instagram: Airhart on Instagram (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/76a15650-92b4-45cc-ae15-007687477984?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatfollowspodcast.substack.com (https://whatfollowspodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

12. 

    4 Jun 2026

    Jacob Peed on AviNation, Youth Outreach, and the Future of Aviation

    Welcome to this episode of What Follows — the podcast where we explore the people shaping aviation today, and the ideas defining what comes next. In this episode, host Nate Thuli speaks with Jacob Peed, founder of AviNation, about his journey into aviation and his mission to connect young people with the opportunities, stories, and communities that can help them find a future in flight. Jacob discusses how grassroots outreach, storytelling, scholarships, and community-building can make aviation more visible and accessible to the next generation. The conversation also explores changing entry points into the industry, new approaches to pilot training and workforce development, and the importance of showing young people that aviation offers far more than a single traditional path. Key Topics Aviation youth outreach and educationJacob Peed’s personal journey into aviationThe mission and growth of AviNationGrassroots community-building in aviationThe role of storytelling in inspiring new aviatorsMaking aviation more accessible to young peoplePilot training and workforce developmentBreaking down financial and cultural barriers to entryScholarships and alternative pathways into aviationMid-career transitions into aviationThe future of air taxis, maintenance careers, and aviation technology Themes This episode focuses on aviation as much as a community as an industry. Jacob emphasizes that inspiring the next generation requires more than technical training — it requires visibility, storytelling, mentorship, and real access to opportunities. At the heart of the conversation is the idea that aviation’s future depends on making the industry feel reachable to students, young professionals, and career changers who may not yet see a place for themselves in flight. Resources AviNation Website (https://avinationusa.com) Future in Flight Podcast (https://futureinflight.com/) Larkins Aviation Scholarships (https://aviationstart.org) Guest Links Website: https://avinationusa.com (https://avinationusa.com/) Podcast: https://futureindflight.com (https://futureinflight.com/) Credits Host: Nate ThuliMusic: Eugeny BardyuzhaArtwork: Edmond HuotProduced by: Helwing Villamizar Additional Media Additional footage and media courtesy of the featured guests and their respective companies, including Airhart, Draco Aircraft, AviNation, Scaled Composites, and EAA. Follow Airhart Visit Airhart and follow along for new What Follows episodes, clips, and updates. Website: Airhart (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/aa7652b0-ecc4-48a5-827e-9df1fc083590?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)YouTube: Airhart on YouTube (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/69e342be-ce11-4583-8ce1-6ba332a26da8?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)LinkedIn: Airhart on LinkedIn (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/cd213b8b-2f0a-4b71-813b-ac920ab2fb5b?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)Instagram: Airhart on Instagram (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/76a15650-92b4-45cc-ae15-007687477984?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatfollowspodcast.substack.com (https://whatfollowspodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

13. 

    28 May 2026

    Johannes von Thadden on Draco Aircraft, Autonomous Flight, and the Future of Accessible Aviation

    Welcome to this episode of What Follows — the podcast where we explore the people shaping aviation today, and the ideas defining what comes next. In this episode, host Nate Thuli speaks with Johannes von Thadden about the development of Draco Aircraft, an ambitious aviation project focused on short takeoff and landing performance, advanced safety systems, and the future of autonomous flight. Johannes von Thadden discusses how his background across aerospace, space technology, and aviation shaped Draco’s mission, and why the next generation of aircraft may depend as much on energy storage, software, and intelligent systems as on traditional aircraft design. The conversation explores electric aviation, autonomous flying, air traffic efficiency, and the possibility of making private aviation safer, more accessible, and less dependent on conventional infrastructure. Key Topics The origins and development of Draco AircraftJohannes von Thadden’s journey from space technology to aviationShort takeoff and landing innovationThe role of AI and autonomous systems in future aviationSafety, automation, and pilot decision-makingThe future of private and accessible aviationElectric aircraft and energy storage challengesBattery technology and flight duration limitationsThe intersection of space systems and aviationHow technology could improve air traffic efficiency Themes This episode explores how aviation innovation is moving beyond traditional aircraft performance and into a new era shaped by autonomy, energy systems, software, and infrastructure. Johannes von Thadden presents Draco Aircraft as part of a broader shift toward aircraft that are safer, easier to operate, and capable of expanding access to flight. At the center of the conversation is a key question for the future of aviation: how can new aircraft technologies reduce complexity for pilots and passengers while improving safety, reliability, and efficiency? Resources Draco Aircraft Official Website (https://dracoaircraft.com)Airbus Official Site (https://www.airbus.com) Mike Patey and Draco’s Development (https://twitter.com/mikepatey)Energy Storage Innovations in Aviation (https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles/articles/advances-battery-technology-enable-long-range-electric-aviation) Credits Host: Nate ThuliMusic: Eugeny BardyuzhaArtwork: Edmond HuotProduced by: Helwing Villamizar Additional Media Additional footage and media courtesy of the featured guests and their respective companies, including Airhart, Draco Aircraft, AviNation, Scaled Composites, and EAA. Follow Airhart Visit Airhart and follow along for new What Follows episodes, clips, and updates. Website: Airhart (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/aa7652b0-ecc4-48a5-827e-9df1fc083590?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)YouTube: Airhart on YouTube (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/69e342be-ce11-4583-8ce1-6ba332a26da8?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)LinkedIn: Airhart on LinkedIn (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/cd213b8b-2f0a-4b71-813b-ac920ab2fb5b?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4)Instagram: Airhart on Instagram (https://link.sbstck.com/redirect/76a15650-92b4-45cc-ae15-007687477984?j=eyJ1IjoiMm15NmJiIn0.5YL0vN_MJKltjz6uNrvbjimeIGTukozPfdKXaqJYKh4) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatfollowspodcast.substack.com (https://whatfollowspodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

14. 

    21 May 2026

    Les Abend on Reliability, Risk, and the Pilot’s Mindset

    Welcome to the launch episode of What Follows — the podcast where we explore the people shaping aviation today, and the ideas defining what comes next. In this first episode, host Nate Thuli speaks with Les Abend about his lifelong journey in aviation, from early childhood inspiration to a career defined by flying, writing, learning, and teaching. Les reflects on what it means to stay proficient as a pilot, why aircraft reliability and safety are deeply connected, and how technology, training, and judgment all shape the modern flying experience. The conversation explores the realities of aircraft systems, avionics integration, maintenance challenges, risk management, and the importance of staying ahead of the airplane. Les also discusses how pilots can manage complexity, reduce cognitive load, and continue learning throughout their careers. Key Topics Les Abend’s aviation origin story and career pathThe relationship between writing, flying, and aviation educationAircraft reliability and maintenance challengesSystem integration and avionics in older aircraftHow technology affects pilot workload and decision-makingSafety, judgment, and risk management in flightCognitive load and staying ahead of the aircraftTraining, proficiency, and lifelong learningLessons from past aviation incidentsMaking aviation more accessible to future pilots Themes This episode centers on the idea that safe flying is not only about aircraft capability or technology, but about judgment, preparation, and continuous learning. Les emphasizes that reliability and safety go hand in hand, and that pilots must learn how to manage complexity before it manages them. Resources Les Abend — SouthWings Volunteer Pilot Profile — https://southwings.org/volunteer-pilots/les-abend (https://southwings.org/volunteer-pilots/les-abend) Les Abend — FLYING Magazine Contributor Profile — https://www.flyingmag.com/bio-les-abend-contributing-editor/ (https://www.flyingmag.com/bio-les-abend-contributing-editor/) Les Abend — Author Profile / Paper Wings — https://openroadmedia.com/contributor/les-abend (https://openroadmedia.com/contributor/les-abend) Candid Cockpit Podcast — Les Abend and Mike Strauss — FAA WINGS Pilot Proficiency Program — https://www.faasafety.gov/wings/pub/learn_more.aspx (https://www.faasafety.gov/wings/pub/learn_more.aspx) FAA Risk Management Handbook — https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/2022-06/risk_management_handbook_2A.pdf (https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/2022-06/risk_management_handbook_2A.pdf) NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System — https://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/ NASA ASRS CALLBACK Newsletter — https://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/publications/callback.html (https://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/publications/callback.html) Credits Host: Nate ThuliMusic: Eugeny BardyuzhaArtwork: Edmond HuotProduced by: Helwing Villamizar Additional Media Additional footage and media courtesy of the featured guests and their respective companies, including Airhart, Draco Aircraft, AviNation, Scaled Composites, and EAA. Follow Airhart Visit Airhart and follow along for new What Follows episodes, clips, and updates. Website: Airhart (https://airhartaero.com/)YouTube: Airhart on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@airhartaero)LinkedIn: Airhart on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/airhart-aeronautics/)Instagram: Airhart on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/airhartaero/) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatfollowspodcast.substack.com (https://whatfollowspodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

15. 

    19 May 2026

    Introducing Season One of What Follows

    This is the official launch preview for What Follows, Airhart’s new aviation podcast hosted by Nate Thuli. Season One brings together pilots, engineers, builders, aviation media leaders, operators, historians, and aerospace innovators for conversations about the people and ideas shaping the future of flight. In this preview, Nate introduces the first season’s guest lineup, including legendary airline captain and author Les Abend, Johannes von Thadden of Draco Aircraft, Jacob Peed of AviNation, Greg Morris of Scaled Composites, Peter Manice on airline operations, and Hal Bryan of EAA. From commercial aviation and STOL aircraft to aerospace experimentation, aviation media, airline operations, and the preservation of aviation history, What Follows explores the stories behind one of the world’s most inspiring industries. Season One begins Thursday, May 21. Key Topics * Commercial aviation and pilot storytelling * STOL aircraft and adventure aviation * Aviation media and community * Aerospace innovation and experimental aircraft * Airline operations and real-time decision-making * Aviation history and legacy Featured Guests This Season * Les Abend — Airline captain and author * Johannes von Thadden — Draco Aircraft * Jacob Peed — AviNation * Greg Morris — Scaled Composites * Peter Manice — Airline operations * Hal Bryan — EAA * And more to come… Credits Host: Nate ThuliMusic: Eugeny BardyuzhaArtwork: Edmond HuotProduced by: Helwing Villamizar Additional Media Additional footage and media courtesy of the featured guests and their respective companies, including Airhart, Draco Aircraft, AviNation, Scaled Composites, and EAA. Follow Airhart Visit Airhart and follow along for new What Follows episodes, clips, and updates. Website: Airhart (https://airhartaero.com/)YouTube: Airhart on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@airhartaero)LinkedIn: Airhart on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/airhart-aeronautics/)Instagram: Airhart on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/airhartaero/) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatfollowspodcast.substack.com (https://whatfollowspodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

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