Join us as we explore the world of Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR)—the tech, the policies, and the big questions shaping its future. Our episodes break down everything from cutting-edge solutions to the roadblocks ahead, featuring expert insights and real talk on what it takes to scale carbon removal.
Tune in and get the inside scoop on the race to net-zero!
Episode 15: One year of the NCRA with Valter Selén and Alexander Mälekä
A year ago, the Nordic Carbon Removal Association (NCRA) didn't exist. Today, it has 37 members, a seat at the table in Brussels, and a founding story that reads a lot like a startup's. In this episode of What Goes Up Must Come Down, Klimate's Simon sat down with Valter Selén, co-founder and Secretary General of the NCRA, and Alexander Mäkelä, Chief Policy Officer at Carbon Gap and NCRA co-founder, to talk through how the association came together, where Nordic carbon dioxide removal (CDR) stands today, and what's needed to turn the region's potential into real, permanent removal capacity.
27 May 2026
Episode 14: Delivering underground storage with Kurt Jagger Lyke
In this episode of What Goes Up Must Come Down, Simon spoke with Kurt Jager Lykke, Head of Business DK at INEOS Energy and head of Project Greensand. Kurt has led the commercial side of Greensand since its inception and took over as project head in 2024. Their conversation covers the project's origins, the organisations that made it possible, and what the carbon dioxide removal (CDR) sector can take from it.
9 Apr 2026
EP 13 Defining quality standards for CDR with Stacy Kauk
In this episode of What Goes Up Must Come Down, Simon is joined by Stacy Kauk, Chief Science Officer at Isometric, a carbon registry. Together, they explore the challenges of scaling a market where buyers do not fully trust what they are buying, suppliers struggle to finance what they are building, and the science is still catching up with the ambition.
25 Feb 2026
EP 12 Scaling artisanal biochar with Berend De Haas
Simon interviews Berend De Haas about the challenges of scaling artisanal biochar projects in India and Ghana, highlighting biochar's potential as a carbon removal solution.
6 Jan 2026
EP11 Coming compliance markets with Marian Krüger
Marian Krüger, founder of Remove, discusses with Simon the driving forces behind corporate investment in carbon removal credits and the transformative impact of compliance on the industry in this interview.
8 Dec 2025
EP10 CDR & Systems thinking with Noah McQueen
Simon Bager interviews Noah McQueen about carbon dioxide removal through a systems thinking lens, addressing geopolitical uncertainties and building resilient systems.
29 Jul 2025
The business case for continued climate investments with Sophie Bruusgaard Jewett
Simon Bager, PhD interviews Sophie Bruusgaard Jewett about maintaining climate investments despite political shifts, highlighting strategic leadership's role in navigating complexity.
23 Jun 2025
Cost Effective Toolkit for Net Zero with Tobias Sørensen
Simon Bager, PhD interviews Tobias Johan Samson about cost-effective strategies for achieving net zero, examining the climate benefits of various CO₂ reduction methods.
27 May 2025
Exploring the State of CDR with Tank Chen
Simon Bager, PhD, interviews Tank Chen about the carbon dioxide removal market, highlighting the technologies and regional approaches that are shaping its future.
30 Apr 2025
Decoding the latest from SBTi with Alex Schmidt
In this episode, host Simon Bager (PhD) sits down with Alex Schmidt from Normative to talk about the Science Based Targets initiative’s (SBTi) proposed updates and what they could mean for corporate net-zero strategies. From tightening rules around Scope 3 emissions to the growing role of Beyond Value Chain Mitigation (BVCM), they explore why early investment in carbon removal is becoming more important — and more strategic — than ever. Tune in to understand what’s changing, and why it matters.
7 Apr 2025
Scaling Nature-Based Solutions with Ikarus Janzen
In this episode, host Simon Bager (PhD) sits down with Ikarus Janzen from Varaha to explore the challenges and opportunities of scaling nature-based carbon removal solutions. They discuss how reforestation, soil carbon, and other natural methods can be scaled effectively, the policies needed to support them, and the role of businesses in driving impact. Can nature-based solutions deliver on their promise at scale? Tune in for a deep dive into the future of climate action through nature!
19 Mar 2025
Exploring EU Policy with Elisabeth Harding
Host Simon Bager (PhD) from Klimate chats with Elisabeth Harding, Policy Manager at the Negative Emissions Platform (NEP), about the policies shaping Europe’s path to net zero. They break down what’s working, what’s not, and what it all means for businesses, climate action, and the future of carbon markets. With big targets on the table, how can policy turn ambition into impact? Tune in for a deep dive into the EU’s role in the fight against climate change!
13 Mar 2025
Nature-Based Solutions with Kahlil Baker
Host Simon Bager (PhD) from Klimate chats with Kahlil Baker, CEO of Taking Root, about how carbon removal can drive real change for communities. They dive into the power of reforestation, how smallholder farmers are reshaping the carbon market, and why financing resilience is key to scaling impact. Can carbon projects be both profitable and ethical? Tune in for an inspiring take on climate action that’s making a difference from the ground up!
12 Mar 2025
Carbon Credits & Credence Goods with Donna Lee
In this episode, host Simon Bager (PhD) from Klimate teams up with Donna Lee, Co-founder of Calyx Global, to break down carbon credits and why they’re considered credence goods. Can we really trust them? How do we ensure real impact? They dive into the challenges of verification, the need for transparency, and what it takes to build a credible carbon market. Don’t miss this deep dive into the future of carbon credits and their role in real climate action!
12 Mar 2025
CDR Policy & Perceptions with Sebastian Manhart
Join host Simon Bager (PhD) from Klimate and Sebastian Manhart from CarbonFuture as they dive into the world of Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR). From policy hurdles to public perception, they break down what it takes to scale CDR and make a real impact on climate change. How do we fund it? Who’s responsible? And will the world get on board? Tune in for a lively discussion on the challenges, opportunities, and future of CDR in the race to net zero!
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