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What is Collective Healing?

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What is Collective Healing? is a weekly podcast exploring how people around the world are finding new ways to heal the individual, inter-generational and collective trauma at the root of our global crises. Presented by the Pocket Project, the series features deeply personal conversations with practitioners who have trained under Thomas Hübl and other pioneers of collective healing – giving listeners a direct experience of the transformational potential this work can unlock. Drawing on a wide diversity of voices from different countries, cultures and communities, the series aims to make the universal principles underlying collective healing practices newly accessible to all – and honor the many lineages and traditions informing today's cutting-edge practices. In an age of overwhelming complexity and news overload, it's easy to forget that we're not meant to carry the weight of the world alone. What Is Collective Healing? is your weekly reminder that not only are we wired to grieve, celebrate and heal together – we're discovering new ways to transmute polarization, trauma and despair into the seeds of a more flourishing future. These conversations show us how. To learn more about how the Pocket Project is creating a culture of trauma-informed care, please visit www.pocketproject.org to join our global events, services and courses.

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July 21, 2026

Bonus Poetry Episode, with Carolina Herbert

<p><strong id= "docs-internal-guid-aae24a7d-7fff-ce26-9aa5-2af633a89da8">Poem written and performed by Carolina Herbert. Used with her permission.</strong></p> <p>Introduced by Matthew Green. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. </p> <p dir="ltr">In this special episode, we bring you a poem by <a href="https://www.carolinaherbert.com/">Carolina Herbert</a>, a PhD Arts Psychotherapist, clinical supervisor, and expressive arts practitioner. Entitled 'Between Inheritance and Hiraeth,' the work explores ancestral work, collective memory and forgiveness.</p> <p dir="ltr">The poem grew out of Carolina's experience in <a href= "https://pocketproject.org/integration-lab/being-british-colonised-and-colonisers/"> Being White British: Colonised and Colonisers</a>, one of more than 40 <a href= "https://pocketproject.org/integration-labs-2026/">Integration Labs</a> the Pocket Project is hosting this year to address different aspects of collective and intergenerational trauma around the world. </p> <p dir="ltr">Carolina writes:</p> <p dir="ltr">"What the Lab created was a quality of collective presence and witnessing that I have rarely encountered, and it became the conditions in which something that had been forming for a long time could finally find its shape.</p> <p dir="ltr">"The deeper roots of the poem go back several years. I have been on a long exploration of ancestral work, collective memory and forgiveness, asking what it means to truly reckon with what we have inherited, both the wounding and the wisdom, and what responsibility we carry to those who came before and those who will come after.</p> <p dir="ltr">"This inquiry took a very specific form through <a href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2119100">Sori,</a> a travelling podcast I created exploring apology and forgiveness in communities and cultures around the world through creative arts, therapy, music and songwriting. We have recorded 14 episodes across several countries, holding conversations about what forgiveness means across different cultural and ancestral traditions. </p> <p dir="ltr">"When I returned to the UK after twenty years of living and working in Cambodia, I found it deeply confronting, the sense of collective sleeping around the level of harm that colonisation has caused and continues to cause around the world. Coming home, in that sense, was not a homecoming but an awakening to something I had perhaps been circling for years without being able to name it so directly. The Lab has helped me begin to focus and explore my own deeper response to this, to find a form for what I was carrying, and for that I am profoundly grateful.</p> <p dir="ltr">"The Lab gave me the opportunity to consolidate and channel all of this into this poem. I arrived with all that accumulated inquiry sitting in me somewhere, and the quality of witnessing in the group gave it permission to emerge in this form."</p> <p dir="ltr">We hope this episode will mark the first in a series featuring creative work emerging from the Pocket Project Integration Labs. </p> <p dir="ltr">We welcome any Lab participant who would like to submit poems or other forms of creative expression for consideration to contact Matthew <a href= "https://matthewgreenjournalism.com/contact/">here</a>.</p> <p dir="ltr">Further Resources:</p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.carolinaherbert.com/">Carolina Herbert</a> </p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.bluepearl-institute.com/">Blue Pearl Institute</a> </p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolinalherbert/">Carolina on LinkedIn</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://www.facebook.com/carolinalherbert">Carolina on Facebook</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://www.instagram.com/carolinalherbert">Carolina on Instagram</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://pocketproject.org/integration-labs-2026/">Pocket Project Integration Labs 2026</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "http://matthewgreenjournalism.com/contact/">Contact Matthew</a></p> <p dir="ltr">About Carolina Herbert:</p> <p dir="ltr">Dr Carolina Herbert is a PhD Arts Psychotherapist, clinical supervisor, educator, consultant, celebrant and expressive arts practitioner with over 25 years of international experience in trauma-informed practice, humanitarian mental health and psychosocial support, and leadership development. Her work has taken her across South East Asia, the Middle East, Eastern Europe, Latin America and Central Asia, accompanying individuals, communities and organisations through some of the most demanding circumstances human beings face.</p> <p dir="ltr">At the heart of her practice is a deep trust in the creative and imaginal capacities that human beings carry, the capacity to make meaning from suffering, to find form for what has no words, and to discover in the arts a pathway back to what matters most. This trust has shaped everything: her clinical work, her training programmes, her organisational consultancy, her songwriting and her writing.</p> <p dir="ltr">She is the founder of Blue Pearl Institute for Expressive Arts: Therapy and Leadership, based in Gower, Wales, the UK's first nature-inspired expressive arts therapy and leadership institute, and a member of the International Network of Expressive Arts Institutes. Blue Pearl delivers practitioner training, accredited CPD and nature-based wellbeing programmes across Wales, Cambodia and online, with an international faculty of teachers.</p> <p dir="ltr">Carolina is also a Global Social Witnessing facilitator and the founder of the <a href= "https://www.buzzsprout.com/2119100">Sori Project</a>, an inquiry into apology, forgiveness and collective repair across cultures. Her poem on ancestry arises from this territory: an invitation to attend to what we carry across generations, and to ask what it means to respond.</p> <p dir="ltr">She is based on the shores of Gower, Wales. </p>

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July 14, 2026

Rebirthing the Wise Warrior: Burnout as a Portal to Collective Liberation, with Dr Rola Hallam

<p dir="ltr">Hosted by Matthew Green. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. </p> <p dir="ltr">How can the apparently catastrophic collapse of the person we thought we were clear the path for who we are meant to become? What might change when we dwell less on what we're doing to serve others, and focus more on the quality of consciousness from which our action arises?</p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.drrolacoaching.com/">Dr Rola Hallam</a> is an award-winning humanitarian recognised for her extraordinary role in building hospitals and bringing medical aid to Syria during a decade of mass killings of civilians unleashed by the country's now-toppled dictatorship.</p> <p dir="ltr">In this episode, Dr Rola speaks about the transformation she experienced after trauma and exhaustion she accumulated via her humanitarian work led to a 'dark night of the soul' that radically changed her understanding of herself and her service in the world. </p> <p dir="ltr">"I was desperately trying to pull us forward and into a better future because the present seemed so unbearable. And I think that crash that I had was really this almighty sort of cataclysmic rupture that in some ways forced me to sit in the cracks," Dr Rola says. </p> <p dir="ltr">"The pain, the grief, the rage, the powerlessness — everything that I had suppressed in all those years, I had to feel them, I had to learn to be with them, I had to integrate them and transmute them so that I could also reconnect to more of that unconditional love, more to joy, more to beauty, more to my right responsibility."</p> <p dir="ltr">Called to the role of doctor from childhood, Dr Rola also felt a strong sense of warriorship from a young age — a combination of archetypal energies that would propel her later relief work in her Syrian homeland, where women and children bore the brunt of the former regime's atrocities.</p> <p dir="ltr">Dr Rola's burnout experience helped her to unravel how some of her own early traumas had shaped her path as a "wounded healer". But it also reflected her experience as a "wounded visionary" — struggling with the pain of the mismatch between the world she could imagine and present reality.</p> <p dir="ltr">With the support of her Sufi practice, various trauma modalities, and psychedelic-assisted therapies, Dr Rola began to harvest the gold hidden in her dark night experience and now offers programmes to support people to build resilience and navigate the collapse-rebirth cycle. </p> <p dir="ltr">These include her new nine-month journey called Wise Warriors. "I would say that is the home of this transformation from clever to wise so that we can all become this healing impulse, this healing presence…for collective liberation, for collective awakening," Dr Rola says.</p> <p dir="ltr">This dialogue provides a vivid illustration of the power of grace to transform our most vulnerable moments into portals for growth and awakening. It also reminds us of our innate capacity to tap into a living stream of inspiration to meet personal and global challenges. </p> <p dir="ltr">"It's so easy to look at the scale of everything and feel too small and too insignificant," Dr Rola says. "But I hope that if nothing else, our conversation today is a reminder of not just our responsibility, but of the agency, of the potency in each one of us to really be a positive contribution. And that is all that is asked of us." </p> <p dir="ltr">Further Resources:</p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.drrolacoaching.com/">Dr Rola Hallam</a> (website)</p> <p dir="ltr">Wise Warriors </p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://www.gobeyondburnout.com/resilient-leadership">The Resilient Leadership Workshop</a> </p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03c7m8s">Saving Syria's Children</a> (BBC Documentary)</p> <p dir="ltr">Related Pocket Project Programmes:</p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://pocketproject.org/resilience-program-phase-2/">Resilience Programme, Phase II</a> (A standalone facilitation training starting in July). </p> <p dir="ltr">About Rola Hallam:</p> <p dir="ltr">​Dr Rola Hallam is an award-winning Syrian-British doctor, humanitarian, trauma-informed coach, speaker and spiritual teacher whose work sits at the meeting place of healing, leadership and sacred service.</p> <p dir="ltr">As founder of CanDo, Rola helped build seven hospitals in Syria and supported care for more than four million people in conflict-affected communities. She has witnessed the devastating impact of war, burnout, moral injury and trauma, not only in the world's hardest places, but also in the bodies and hearts of those who serve.</p> <p dir="ltr">Honoured as the first Syrian TED Fellow, Rola has spoken on global stages alongside presidents, celebrities, grassroots activists and changemakers. Her talks have been viewed more than 11 million times, inspiring people around the world to reimagine what healing, leadership and social change can look like.</p> <p dir="ltr">After her own experience of burnout and PTSD, Rola's work evolved beyond emergency medicine and humanitarian action into a deeper exploration of nervous system repair, embodied resilience and spiritual transformation. Today, she guides sensitive leaders, healers, frontline workers and changemakers to move from survival, self-abandonment and depletion into wholeness, truth and sacred responsibility.</p> <p dir="ltr">Her approach brings together Western medicine, trauma healing, somatic work, Sufi wisdom, embodied resilience and expanded states of consciousness. At the heart of her work is a simple but radical invitation: that our presence is medicine, and that when we heal what lives within us, our service becomes less about sacrifice and more about devotion, aliveness and right relationship with the world.</p>

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July 7, 2026

Leading in Chaos: Transforming our Lives Into 'Instruments of Repair', with Amy Elizabeth Fox

<p dir="ltr">Hosted by Kosha Joubert. Produced by J'aime Rothbard.</p> <p dir="ltr">How can we meet this time of polarisation, breakdown and chaos by turning our lives into 'instruments of repair'? How can we undertake the work of healing and reconciliation needed to restore relations between genders?</p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://amyelizabethfox.com/">Amy Elizabeth Fox</a> is the co-founder and Chief Executive Officer of <a href= "https://www.mobiusleadership.com/">Mobius Executive Leadership</a>, a global transformational leadership firm, and longtime collaborator with the Pocket Project and its co-founder Thomas Hübl.</p> <p dir="ltr">In this episode, Amy and Kosha build on insights from <a href="https://www.mobiusleadership.com/">Leading in Chaos</a>, Amy's new book co-authored with Nicholas Janni, to explore how to develop the inner ground that supports us to align with a sense of larger unfolding in this era of fluidity and change.</p> <p dir="ltr">"We know that the operating system we've relied on in a command-and-control predictable world will not be sufficient to grapple with these times of uncertainty and churn," Amy says. "So we're going to have to build inside organizations what I've been calling nests, which are small groups, and the purpose of these nests is not functional or technical: It is just emotional support and care."</p> <p dir="ltr">As leaders increasingly recognise the need to embrace more feminine principles to support their staff and navigate growing complexity, Amy provides a compellingly clear vision of how we can each integrate both our trauma healing work and a sense of devotion to something greater than ourselves to reveal the unique contribution that is ours to make. </p> <p dir="ltr">"I think there's a natural impulse of the heart at this time to be of service and to be part of the reparative web, that is arising naturally in this time of great violence and cruelty and degradation of life in many ways," Amy says. "So the inner work is in part attuning to and defining and engaging with what your contribution is meant to be."</p> <p dir="ltr">In the light of last week's Pocket Project Global Social Witnessing Call "<a href= "https://pocketproject.org/event/from-the-epstein-files-to-inside-the-manosphere-tending-to-fractured-gender-relations/">From the Epstein Files to Inside the Manosphere: Tending to Fractured Gender Relations</a>," Kosha and Amy also dive deeply into the question of how men, women and people of all genders can undertake the work of reconciliation and repair.</p> <p dir="ltr">Amy emphasises both the importance of women continuing to support one another in healing from trauma and for men to come together to undertake the process of "unnumbing" from patriarchal conditioning. These complementary processes can, Amy says, form "the precursor for real co-creation and reinvention of how we relate to each other." </p> <p dir="ltr">Infused with Amy's gift for illuminating core principles of healing and awakening with clarity, beauty and precision, this episode will nourish anyone seeking to lead with an open heart in this time of great peril and promise. </p> <p dir="ltr">Further Resources:</p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.mobiusleadership.com/">Leading in Chaos: A Clarion Call to a New Future From Two Pioneers in Leadership Development and Transformational Change</a> (Book)</p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://leadinginchaosbook.com/events/leading-in-chaos-online-sessions-fall-2026/"> Leading in Chaos</a> (a series of seven online sessions with Amy Elizabeth Fox and Nicholas Janni, running from September to December 2026).</p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.mobiusleadership.com/">Mobius Executive Leadership</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://amyelizabethfox.com/">Amy Elizabeth Fox</a> (website)</p> <p dir="ltr">Related Pocket Project Programmes:</p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://pocketproject.org/resilience-program-phase-2/">Resilience Programme, Phase II</a> (A standalone facilitation training starting in July). </p> <p dir="ltr">About Amy Elizabeth Fox:</p> <p dir="ltr">Since 2005 Amy Elizabeth Fox has served as one of the founders and Chief Executive Officer of Mobius Executive Leadership, a global transformational leadership firm. For the last twenty years she has served as a leadership and culture change advisor to eminent professional services firms and Fortune 500 companies and facilitated immersive executive development programs for senior leaders. ​</p> <p dir="ltr">​In 2026 she co-authored a book with Nicholas Janni entitled Leading in Chaos to help executives navigate the unique challenges of leading through increased complexity and adaptive demand.​</p> <p dir="ltr">​Mobius offers top team intervention, business mediation, executive coaching and personal mastery programs all aimed at unlocking potential and building deeper trust, intimacy and connection within a company's top tier. Mobius also sponsors a professional development arm for maturing transformational practitioners called the Next Practice Institute and has an e-learning arm entitled Mobius Touch.​</p> <p dir="ltr">​Since 2013 Mobius has had the privilege of partnering with the premier leadership advisory firm, Egon Zehnder, together offering sessions for leaders from around the world. Amy serves as the lead faculty for the quarterly Discovery program offered jointly to N-1 leaders. Further she has guided programs for long standing clients in tandem to overseeing the evolution and expansion of Mobius.​</p> <p dir="ltr">​Amy is considered an expert in healing individual, family and collective trauma and has been a pioneer in introducing trauma-informed development and psycho-spiritual principles into leadership programs. ​</p> <p dir="ltr">​In addition to her work with Mobius, Amy is a senior student of mystical teacher Thomas Hübl, serving as part of his online faculty team and as lead faculty for his two-year Timeless Wisdom Training. Together Amy and Thomas are guiding a first of its kind year-long certification in Trauma Informed Consulting and Coaching. ​</p> <p dir="ltr">​Before starting Mobius Amy worked as a trainer for Vantage Partners, as a senior executive in Wellspace, and as the Director of Public Affairs for the Cathedral of St John the Divine where she supported Paul Gorman, Carl Sagan and Vice President Gore in a decade long effort to engage the American faith communities in responding to climate change and environmental degradation.​</p> <p dir="ltr">​Amy has a Masters in Counseling from Lesley College and a BA in Psychology from Wesleyan University.​</p> <p> </p>

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What is Collective Healing? is a weekly podcast exploring how people around the world are finding new ways to heal the individual, inter-generational and collective trauma at the root of our global crises.

Presented by the Pocket Project, the series features deeply personal conversations with practitioners who have trained under Thomas Hübl and other pioneers of collective healing – giving listeners a direct experience of the transformational potential this work can unlock.

Drawing on a wide diversity of voices from different countries, cultures and communities, the series aims to make the universal principles underlying collective healing practices newly accessible to all – and honor the many lineages and traditions informing today's cutting-edge practices.

In an age of overwhelming complexity and news overload, it's easy to forget that we're not meant to carry the weight of the world alone. What Is Collective Healing? is your weekly reminder that not only are we wired to grieve, celebrate and heal together – we're discovering new ways to transmute polarization, trauma and despair into the seeds of a more flourishing future. These conversations show us how.

To learn more about how the Pocket Project is creating a culture of trauma-informed care, please visit www.pocketproject.org to join our global events, services and courses.

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