Two current and former young pastors in small town ministry sit down each week to talk about the ups and downs of their jobs as they try to figure out what the hell it is they're supposed to be doing. Come for the behind-the-scenes look at ministry, stay for the theological asides.
In which Ethan and Jo catch up and begin to analyze the potential of one of Jo's congregations.
Curious about the analysis? A great place to start is with the Good Friday Collaborative's blog post, "Is Your Congregation Spiritually and Emotionally Strong?" (https://www.goodfridaycollaborative.com/writing/spiritual-emotional-strength)
Looking for that interview with Diane Kenaston, one of the Good Friday Collaborative's collaborators? It's called Completing Ministry/The Stained Glass Cliff (https://open.spotify.com/episode/1RwFMHM7RL9p4pT3BEBvDb?si=N9EnuQJsTTqXmK9qAB-QQA).
16 May 2026
Review: Mask of the Phantasm
In which Ethan and Jo discuss a classic Batman movie.
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24 Feb 2026
Pack for History
In which Rev. Dr. Alina Gayeuski joins Jo to discuss her ministry journey, feminism, and her upcoming book, Beyond the Stained Glass Ceiling (https://bookshop.org/a/92245/9780827203532).
Read a sample of the book or preorder it directly here (https://chalicepress.com/products/beyond-the-stained-glass-ceiling).
Join in on the book launch festivities! Details shared here: https://www.facebook.com/beyondthestainedglassceiling (https://www.facebook.com/beyondthestainedglassceiling)
Here's that video of male clergy reading things folks have said to female clergy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTcaAkG86QQ).
Want to hear more stories from clergy women on the podcast? Click here (https://open.spotify.com/playlist/32mdUU5nuPIBMPjwBDlEPJ?go=1&sp_cid=cad2f91df2a9741e795074e2013155f3&nd=1&dlsi=2194256aec6b4efb).
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