Two current and former young pastors in small town ministry sit down each week to talk about the ups and downs of their jobs as they try to figure out what the hell it is they're supposed to be doing. Come for the behind-the-scenes look at ministry, stay for the theological asides.
What the Hell is a Pastor?
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Two current and former young pastors in small town ministry sit down each week to talk about the ups and downs of their jobs as they try to figure out what the hell it is they're supposed to be doing. Come for the behind-the-scenes look at ministry, stay for the theological asides.
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June 11, 2026
Spiritual / Emotional
<p>In which Ethan and Jo catch up and begin to analyze the potential of one of Jo's congregations. </p><p><br></p><p>Curious about the analysis? A great place to start is with the Good Friday Collaborative's blog post, <a href="https://www.goodfridaycollaborative.com/writing/spiritual-emotional-strength" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">"Is Your Congregation Spiritually and Emotionally Strong?"</a> </p><p><br></p><p>Looking for that interview with Diane Kenaston, one of the Good Friday Collaborative's collaborators? It's called <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/1RwFMHM7RL9p4pT3BEBvDb?si=N9EnuQJsTTqXmK9qAB-QQA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Completing Ministry/The Stained Glass Cliff</a>. </p>
May 16, 2026
Review: Mask of the Phantasm
<p>In which Ethan and Jo discuss a classic Batman movie. </p><p><br></p><p>Find all things WTHIAP at wthiap.com</p>
February 24, 2026
Pack for History
<p>In which Rev. Dr. Alina Gayeuski joins Jo to discuss her ministry journey, feminism, and her upcoming book, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/92245/9780827203532" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Beyond the Stained Glass Ceiling</a>. </p><p>Read a sample of the book or preorder it directly <a href="https://chalicepress.com/products/beyond-the-stained-glass-ceiling" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">here</a>. </p><p>Join in on the book launch festivities! Details shared here: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/beyondthestainedglassceiling" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">https://www.facebook.com/beyondthestainedglassceiling</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTcaAkG86QQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Here's that video of male clergy reading things folks have said to female clergy</a>.</p><p>Want to hear more stories from clergy women on the podcast? <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/32mdUU5nuPIBMPjwBDlEPJ?go=1&sp_cid=cad2f91df2a9741e795074e2013155f3&nd=1&dlsi=2194256aec6b4efb" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Click here</a>. </p>
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