WHAT THEY SAY is a podcast by THEY SAY STUDIOS, hosted by co-founders Amy-Lee Cowey-Small and Jessica Ashman, two women building a creative and digital world on their own terms. It is where work meets real life - motherhood and ambition, friendship and business, burnout and belief - with honest, funny, thoughtful conversations between Amy, Jess and their guests, from founders and creatives to leaders rewriting the rules, about what it really takes to build something you love and stay (mostly) sane.
WHAT THEY SAY about maternity leave when you run the business
In this episode of WHAT THEY SAY, Amy-Lee and Jess turn the mic back on themselves again to talk about maternity leave, motherhood and what stepping away actually looks like when the business is yours. There is a certain full-circle feeling to this one. Jess joined THEY SAY while on maternity leave. Now, Amy-Lee is preparing to take hers. Different babies, different stages of the business and a very different version of THEY SAY in between. But when you are a founder, maternity leave is not a...
9 Jul 2026
WHAT THEY SAY about redefining success with Nnenna Onuba
After 17 years in investment banking with firms including Rothschild and PwC, Nnenna walked away from corporate life to build a business rooted in balance. Today, she wears many hats as a founder, angel investor, board director and advocate for inclusive leadership. But this isn't just a conversation about entrepreneurship. It's about knowing when to take the leap, building a career that reflects your values and challenging the traditional definition of success. Together, they get into: • Why...
10 May 2026
WHAT THEY SAY about building a business with your best friend
In this episode of WHAT THEY SAY, Amy-Lee and Jess turn the mic on themselves to talk about how They Say Studios really began, from best friends first to business partners second. What started as an idea, quickly became a conversation about building something bigger together. But starting a business with your best friend is not just about having a shared vision. It is about honesty, hard conversations and figuring out how to grow side by side while being in completely different seasons of lif...
29 Mar 2026
WHAT THEY SAY about building a brand with Amy Rollings
In this episode, we’re joined by Amy Rollings, founder of CLUB MERA- a premium non-alcoholic aperitif built for a new way of socialising. We’re in the middle of a cultural shift. More people are drinking less. Gen Z are redefining how they socialise. And at the same time, there’s a growing movement towards independence, ownership and building something of your own. In this conversation, we explore: – Why drinking culture is changing – What that means for brands and experiences – The reality o...
1 Mar 2026
WHAT THEY SAY about making space when you’re not given it with Ayo Akinsete
In this episode of WHAT THEY SAY, Amy-Lee and Jess sit down with hospitality heavyweight Ayo Akinsete, Chief Operating Officer at The Dean Group, to talk about making space when you’re not given it- and leading with calm, credibility and quiet confidence. From Ile-Ife in Nigeria to South Carolina, Vegas, London and now Ireland, Ayo has built a global career across some of the world’s most recognisable lifestyle hotels. But this isn’t a CV recap. It’s a conversation about what it really ...
9 Feb 2026
WHAT THEY SAY about running a business that never sits still
THEY SAY Studios was built in airports, coffee shops and voice notes. Amy-Lee in Palma, Jess in Singapore - running a global creative and digital studio powered by collaboration, not co-location. This first episode of WHAT THEY SAY is the story of how THEY SAY Studios began. How a couple of girls with laptops, big ideas and no shared office built a remote-first, female-founded studio across borders. We dig into how remote working really shapes creativity, leadership and connection. How you ...
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