

What You Have Seen and Heard
Travis Stevick
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- 18
- Episodes
- 1
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- Cadence
- 2026
- First episode
About What You Have Seen and Heard
A series of interviews with clergy and laypeople across the Upper Midwest Annual Conference of the Global Methodist Church (If you are not interested in this but you still want to get other notifications, you can go to your settings menu, scroll to my substack, then you will see each section listed with a toggle button. You can unsubscribe from specific sections without unsubscribing from the others) travisstevick.substack.com (https://travisstevick.substack.com/s/what-you-have-seen-and-heard?utm_medium=podcast)
- Publisher
- Travis Stevick
- Category
- religion & spirituality · religion & spirituality
- Language
- en
- Explicit
- No
- First episode
- 1 Sept 2026
- Latest episode
- 29 Oct 2026
Latest episodes
18 episodes in the feed.

29 Oct 2026
Rev. Jonathan Hart (Alabama, Alabama - Emerald Coast) Interview
Many thanks to Rev. Jonathan Hart for joining me for this episode of "What You Have Seen and Heard - Across the Connection."Rev. Hart is the pastor of Mulder Church in Wetumpka, Alabama. You can check out their website at:https://mulderchurch.com/?fbclid=IwY2xjawU4u8tleHRuA2FlbQIxMABwZG9mAWJyaWQRMTlpSU96S1RzdUFKME5LUEZzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEelDy6ij9PRc2stiQpcwlwazyhatkZB9LYT7TcSvU4MiDNeNrf22rTNcDgPFw_aem_wUAuUPVxYtyqIxPtJSyXtQand their Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/MulderChurch1You can find the Alabama-Emerald Coast Annual Conference website at: https://aecgmc.org Here is a link to the recordings of John Wesley's sermons that we refer to: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfXiMMKkjz_ALFo4nZ-5MN_sOMgtiq2mq&si=sovwMzN7lDGSMu5hIf you know anyone who is doing faithful and fruitful ministry in the Upper Midwest Conference of the Global Methodist Church, or from across the connection, let me know to reach out to them at pastortravis@marcusgrace.comYou can also check out my personal YouTube channel with lots of material: https://youtube.com/@tstevick1?si=xY3JqLYzJJk3qQ37Also, I regularly post on Substack: https://travisstevick.substack.comFinally, you can find the church I serve at: https://www.marcusgrace.comIntroduction: 0:00How did you each become a Christian: 0:42How did you each feel God's calling to ministry? 7:12What was your experience as an Associate Pastor?: 11:55What was it like moving to a new church after COVID but before disaffiliation?: 15:40How we met at General Conference: 32:12What sickness have you seen in churches?: 49:00Is there anything else you want to share? 56:30 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit travisstevick.substack.com (https://travisstevick.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

22 Oct 2026
Rev. Lathem Postell (Georgia, North Georgia) Interview
Many thanks to Rev. Lathem Postell for joining me for this episode of "What You Have Seen and Heard - Across the Connection."Rev. Postell is the pastor of Sam Jones Methodist Church in Cartersville, Georgia. You can check out their website at: https://www.sjmchurch.org/?fbclid=IwY2xjawU4u2NleHRuA2FlbQIxMABwZG9mAWJyaWQRMTlpSU96S1RzdUFKME5LUEZzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEeIQoP4kJk4ohoKRdGbo6MJ-pLJ7SsCo40A-z7whZoVPmcDNji5Sd2KcYmZj8_aem_sH-u_aaNXmEee8ZxX_ZrTQand their Facebook page at:https://www.facebook.com/SamJonesMethodistYou can find the North Georgia Annual Conference website at: https://ngagmc.orgIf you know anyone who is doing faithful and fruitful ministry in the Upper Midwest Conference of the Global Methodist Church, or from across the connection, let me know to reach out to them at pastortravis@marcusgrace.comYou can also check out my personal YouTube channel with lots of material: https://youtube.com/@tstevick1?si=xY3JqLYzJJk3qQ37Also, I regularly post on Substack: https://travisstevick.substack.comFinally, you can find the church I serve at: https://www.marcusgrace.comIntroduction: 0:00How did you each become a Christian: 0:48How did you each feel God's calling to ministry? 6:30How we met at General Conference: 12:55Tell me a bit about Cartersville and ministry in that place: 14:20How did you end up at Candler?: 16:20What made you want to go to General Conference?: 28:32What sickness have you seen in churches?: 31:40Is there anything else you want to share? 40:32 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit travisstevick.substack.com (https://travisstevick.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

15 Oct 2026
Rev. Dustin McEwen (New Mexico, West Plains) Interview
Many thanks to Rev. Dustin McEwen for joining me for this episode of "What You Have Seen and Heard - Across the Connection."Rev. McEwen is the pastor of Community Methodist Church in Ruidoso, New Mexico. You can check out their website at: https://www.communitymethodist.church/?fbclid=IwY2xjawU4uvRleHRuA2FlbQIxMABwZG9mAWJyaWQRMTlpSU96S1RzdUFKME5LUEZzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEeRrp_ogooP5ZQqlP4mNcTtFpUww3hmzGEU_UTxTi9OyrC66abknzvkuBd_VU_aem_-YaYUSmO5aikO2xpoHEuLA and thier Facebook page at:https://www.facebook.com/RuidosoCMCYou can find the West Plains Annual Conference website at: https://www.westplainsgmc.org If you know anyone who is doing faithful and fruitful ministry in the Upper Midwest Conference of the Global Methodist Church, or from across the connection, let me know to reach out to them at pastortravis@marcusgrace.comYou can also check out my personal YouTube channel with lots of material: https://youtube.com/@tstevick1?si=xY3JqLYzJJk3qQ37Also, I regularly post on Substack: https://travisstevick.substack.comFinally, you can find the church I serve at: https://www.marcusgrace.comIntroduction: 0:00How did you each become a Christian: 0:45How did you each feel God's calling to ministry? 2:45 Can you tell us a bit about God's call to be a church planter? 5:50How did you end up in New Mexico? 9:14Tell me a bit about Ruidoso. 11:00What is ministry like in a tourist community? 14:24What has been your experience in this system (as opposed to a previous system)? 23:00What sickness have you seen in churches?: 38:40Is there anything else you want to share? This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit travisstevick.substack.com (https://travisstevick.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

8 Oct 2026
Revs. Elizabeth Winger Young and Wes Young (Kansas) Interview
Many thanks to Revs. Elizabeth Winger Young and Wes Young for joining me for this episode of "What You Have Seen and Heard - Across the Connection."Rev. Winger Young is the pastor of the Lakin Methodist Church in Kansas. You can check out their Facebook page at:https://www.facebook.com/LakinGMC/Rev. Young is the pastor of Faith Community in Garden City, Kansas. You can check out their Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/FaithCommunityGardenCityYou can find the Heartland Annual Conference website at: https://heartlandgmc.org If you know anyone who is doing faithful and fruitful ministry in the Upper Midwest Conference of the Global Methodist Church, or from across the connection, let me know to reach out to them at pastortravis@marcusgrace.comYou can also check out my personal YouTube channel with lots of material: https://youtube.com/@tstevick1?si=xY3JqLYzJJk3qQ37Also, I regularly post on Substack: https://travisstevick.substack.comFinally, you can find the church I serve at: https://www.marcusgrace.comIntroduction: 0:00How did you each become a Christian: 1:25How did you each feel God's calling to ministry?: 7:45Can you tell us a bit about what ministry is like in Kansas and the Heartland Conference?: 29:20Moral failings and large vs. small churches: 37:15What sickness have you seen in churches?: 45:40Is there anything else you want to share?: 58:45 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit travisstevick.substack.com (https://travisstevick.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

1 Oct 2026
Rev. Tsvetan Iliev (Bulgaria) Interview
Many thanks to Rev. Tsvetan Iliev for joining me for this first episode of "What You Have Seen and Heard - Across the Connection."Rev. Iliev is the pastor of the Dr. Albert Long Global Methodist Church in Bulgaria. You can check out the church website at: http://sofia.methodist.bg/bg/You can find the Bulgarian Annual Conference website (in Bulgarian) at: https://methodist.bg/ He mentions his YouTube video in the discussion. Here is a link to it:https://youtube.com/@inspiredbyfaith6054?si=TFsLmvsvvVmaYzomIf you know anyone who is doing faithful and fruitful ministry in the Upper Midwest Conference of the Global Methodist Church, or from across the connection, let me know to reach out to them at pastortravis@marcusgrace.comYou can also check out my personal YouTube channel with lots of material: https://youtube.com/@tstevick1?si=xY3JqLYzJJk3qQ37Also, I regularly post on Substack: https://travisstevick.substack.comFinally, you can find the church I serve at: https://www.marcusgrace.comIntroduction: 0:00How did you become a Christian: 1:28How did you feel God's calling to ministry?: 7:25What is ministry like in Bulgaria?: 13:30Methodist classes (small groups) in Bulgaria: 17:00What sickness have you seen in churches?: 31:25What are your thoughts about the American reporting that young men are moving to the Eastern Orthodox Church?: 37:15 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit travisstevick.substack.com (https://travisstevick.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

24 Sept 2026
Rev. Andy Early Interview
Many thanks to Rev. Andy Early for joining in this episode of "What You Have Seen and Heard."If you want to know more about his church, Harvest Church, in Bismarck, North Dakota, check out their website at: https://www.harvestbismarck.org and their Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61565900825684If you know anyone who is doing faithful and fruitful ministry in the Upper Midwest Conference of the Global Methodist Church, let me know to reach out to them at pastortravis@marcusgrace.comYou can also check out my personal YouTube channel with lots of material: https://youtube.com/@tstevick1?si=xY3JqLYzJJk3qQ37Also, I regularly post on Substack: https://travisstevick.substack.comFinally, you can find the church I serve at: https://www.marcusgrace.comIntroduction: 0:00How did you become a Christian: 0:59How did you feel God's calling to ministry?: 8:20Can you tell us a bit about Harvest Church?: 10:03Reflections on ministry in Bismarck: 16:45Tell us about Taco Tuesday ministry: 24:35What sickness have you seen in churches?: 43:00Is there anything else you want to share?: 48:12 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit travisstevick.substack.com (https://travisstevick.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

17 Sept 2026
Rev. Sedar Shako Interview
Many thanks to Rev. Sedar Shako for joining in this episode of "What You Have Seen and Heard."If you want to know more about his churches, Harris and Lake Park Methodist Churchs, in Harris, Iowa and Lake Park, Iowa,, check out their website at: https://harrislakeparkmc.org and their Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/harrislakeparkumc.org?If you know anyone who is doing faithful and fruitful ministry in the Upper Midwest Conference of the Global Methodist Church, let me know to reach out to them at pastortravis@marcusgrace.comYou can also check out my personal YouTube channel with lots of material: https://youtube.com/@tstevick1?si=xY3JqLYzJJk3qQ37Also, I regularly post on Substack: https://travisstevick.substack.comFinally, you can find the church I serve at: https://www.marcusgrace.comIntroduction: 0:00How did you become a Christian: 0:40How did you feel God's calling to ministry?: 5:40How did God call you to America?: 8:15How is ministry different in Africa and America?: 13:35How has your transition been from urban to rural ministry?: 17:05What sickness have you seen in churches?: 31:45Is there anything else you want to share?: 42:20 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit travisstevick.substack.com (https://travisstevick.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

10 Sept 2026
Rev. Stephenie Henson Interview
Many thanks to Rev. Stephenie Henson for joining in this episode of "What You Have Seen and Heard."If you want to know more about her church, Prarie Creek Church in Grimes, Iowa, check out their website at: https://pcgrimes.com and their Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/pcgrimesfb?Stephenie is a student in the Wesley Biblical Seminary Course of Study and Master's Program. Here is a link to the overview of the course of study program: https://wbs.edu/programs/gmc/If you know anyone who is doing faithful and fruitful ministry in the Upper Midwest Conference of the Global Methodist Church, let me know to reach out to them at pastortravis@marcusgrace.comYou can also check out my personal YouTube channel with lots of material: https://youtube.com/@tstevick1?si=xY3JqLYzJJk3qQ37Also, I regularly post on Substack: https://travisstevick.substack.comFinally, you can find the church I serve at: https://www.marcusgrace.comIntroduction: 0:00How did you become a Christian: 1:10How did you feel God's calling to ministry?: 3:15How did you go from being hesitant about women in ministry to affiming it?: 6:30What has your theological education been like?: 10:25What has been positive or negative in the transition from laity to clergy?:17:15 What does ministry look like for you right now?: 20:10What is your other job like?: 23:20How might your context have different challenges than a rural environment?: 26:40What sickness have you seen in churches?: 30:40Any final thoughts to share?: 35:30 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit travisstevick.substack.com (https://travisstevick.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

5 Sept 2026
Gonzo Santillan Interview
This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit travisstevick.substack.com (https://travisstevick.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

5 Sept 2026
Rev. Andrew Bee Interview
Many thanks to Rev. Andrew Bee for joining in this episode of “What You Have Seen and Heard.”If you want to know more about his church, Living Hope GMC in Lisbon, Iowa, check out their website at: https://www.livinghopegmc.org and their Facebook page at: (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rU1NhOWNuTFp6U1AwcjNYUHlaRFoyWHxBTl9pYzRlS01LR1N3NnQzc1dFUXJhMzVCUEludE10M1dWU3NwdXJSOEdBQ1F5SFdHNHdaUURCZmpmbGFEa1hpVmM5LWZScGZaU0JDZXN6NVNweVBBMVNnNFV0cTE0b19SYmp5&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FLivingHopeGMC&v=elmiA9vgcdI) / livinghopegmc (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rU1NhOWNuTFp6U1AwcjNYUHlaRFoyWHxBTl9pYzRlS01LR1N3NnQzc1dFUXJhMzVCUEludE10M1dWU3NwdXJSOEdBQ1F5SFdHNHdaUURCZmpmbGFEa1hpVmM5LWZScGZaU0JDZXN6NVNweVBBMVNnNFV0cTE0b19SYmp5&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FLivingHopeGMC&v=elmiA9vgcdI)If you know anyone who is doing faithful and fruitful ministry in the Upper Midwest Conference of the Global Methodist Church, let me know to reach out to them at pastortravis@marcusgrace.comYou can also check out my personal YouTube channel with lots of material: (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA-3TpZo3ql8pYz-WayTn3Q) / @tstevick1 (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA-3TpZo3ql8pYz-WayTn3Q)Finally, you can find the church I serve at: https://www.marcusgrace.com Introduction: 0:00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmiA9vgcdI)How did you become a Christian: 0:35 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmiA9vgcdI&t=35s)How did you feel God’s calling to ministry?: 2:25 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmiA9vgcdI&t=145s)How did realizing your faith was inadequate change your life?: 9:50 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmiA9vgcdI&t=590s)How did you come to join the Global Methodist Church?: 13:30 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmiA9vgcdI&t=810s)What has been positive or negative in that transition?:20:15 What has it been like merging two congregations?: 31:21 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmiA9vgcdI&t=1881s)What is ministry like in your context (rural but surrounded by cities)?: 35:45 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmiA9vgcdI&t=2145s)How has your involvement in the local community helped the church?: 40:25 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmiA9vgcdI&t=2425s)What sickness have you seen in churches?: 46:00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmiA9vgcdI&t=2760s) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit travisstevick.substack.com (https://travisstevick.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

5 Sept 2026
Matt Kearns Interview
Many thanks to Matt Kearns for joining in this episode of “What You Have Seen and Heard.”We had just about EVERY technical problem you could possibly have in recording this interview. Please forgive the choppy video and the occasional pauses in audio. I did my best to cut out the worst of that! The audio is in better shape than the video.If you want to know more about the Certified Lay Ministry (CLM) program in the Upper Midwest Annual Conference, check out their website at:https://www.uppermidwestgmc.org/certi... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rU1ByNWp5X2t5ZmhIRkUzZjRZMXY4eHxBTl9pYzRkZVduX1BpdnVaMElBWElBQVhBcWdoZTF6UUtqSlBXeUMxWXFyTHQ1cmRsN3NIOXlManhMUXFScWZoU01iYWNkX29PSWpnNkstV05OeGJneDlEWVlpU3FBcXh3ZmFw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.uppermidwestgmc.org%2Fcertified-lay-ministry&v=eXaP5nk8gCY)If you want to know more about his church, Marion Methodist Church, in Marion, Iowa, check out their website at: https://marionmethodist.org and their Facebook page at: (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rU0RBTW5nMGZwS3FLd0F3UTNMTE82N3xBTl9pYzRlOXdQaUxKdTlJUTc3ZUpWVWhfYVhsM19yNVFBVTNiTTk3RDJSbUNuS3hQUTJpcC12VFU3SVRKSFpfdVlEaDVFVEMwOVdEcnMtcHVya1I3QjlnSUNyNmpYVkJfVFNq&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fmarionmethodistchurch&v=eXaP5nk8gCY) / marionmethodistchurch (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rU0RBTW5nMGZwS3FLd0F3UTNMTE82N3xBTl9pYzRlOXdQaUxKdTlJUTc3ZUpWVWhfYVhsM19yNVFBVTNiTTk3RDJSbUNuS3hQUTJpcC12VFU3SVRKSFpfdVlEaDVFVEMwOVdEcnMtcHVya1I3QjlnSUNyNmpYVkJfVFNq&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fmarionmethodistchurch&v=eXaP5nk8gCY)Matt is a student in Asbury’s Course of study program. Here is a link to the overview of that program: https://asburyseminary.edu/course-of-... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rVFhFZjJpM2ExWFlrajNhMUE5TlQ1OXxBTl9pYzRkT29uNFhRdmM4ZFd3V1FqbHlMWUZMNDdScFR0a2N3YmdFU2JDT3dncWpXQXVicDJER3J1QlN3Vk5nUnhyVkM3T0NqQjlacEZpaE9MbFo4dE96RHg2eGVPT2VGVWE1&q=https%3A%2F%2Fasburyseminary.edu%2Fcourse-of-study%2F&v=eXaP5nk8gCY)Also, here is the overview for United’s equivalent program (where I teach): https://united.edu/global-methodist-h... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rVGMxZmxIblhCNFpUZjJJeDdIVEd5a3xBTl9pYzRlZ051d2dSZHVsV3VWUzdJNGtxZ1g1NnYxSXpSTTg5ekZBWlA1bDNyN1lvNFVCWHhEUWhhYVdVZ1ViR3RGT3laVDVQU2p0RU1POEJwZ1JEY1VjWmk3aHJGU3FnVkVN&q=https%3A%2F%2Funited.edu%2Fglobal-methodist-house-of-study%2F&v=eXaP5nk8gCY)And here is the overview for the Wesley Biblical Seminary Course of Study: https://wbs.edu/programs/gmc/ (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rU2ZrRE5MVlR3YWZaa01GMWc2amZyX3xBTl9pYzRmZUx3TnJTdjAyanItSllZNlJCMEJOMUpWdm4yQzZOX2lEbDdLU1RTTTFWTk9BUjg2M3hHRFlnU0tsWkNoakRsMEpTcVc3YXh5aXBWU2RUNWZDV1k2SlJ0T21jbXct&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwbs.edu%2Fprograms%2Fgmc%2F&v=eXaP5nk8gCY)If you know anyone who is doing faithful and fruitful ministry in the Upper Midwest Conference of the Global Methodist Church, let me know to reach out to them at pastortravis@marcusgrace.comYou can also check out my personal YouTube channel with lots of material: (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA-3TpZo3ql8pYz-WayTn3Q) / @tstevick1 (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA-3TpZo3ql8pYz-WayTn3Q)Finally, you can find the church I serve at: https://www.marcusgrace.com Introduction: 0:00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXaP5nk8gCY)How did you become a Christian: 1:00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXaP5nk8gCY&t=60s)The importance of Lay ministry: 21:40 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXaP5nk8gCY&t=1300s)The importance of a strong Administrative Council (Church Council): 27:05 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXaP5nk8gCY&t=1625s)Blessings and Liabilities of minsitry in a (sub)urban environment: 32:12 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXaP5nk8gCY&t=1932s)What sickness have you seen in churches?: 38:00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXaP5nk8gCY&t=2280s) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit travisstevick.substack.com (https://travisstevick.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

5 Sept 2026
Rev. Zach Rogers
Many thanks to Rev. Zach Rogers for joining in this episode of “What You Have Seen and Heard.”If you want to know more about his church, Delhi Methodist Church, in Delhi, Iowa, check out their website at: https://www.delhimethodist.com and their Facebook page at: (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rUk5uaVlTMmNxSlB5ZlV6ZEE2ZUg5MXxBTl9pYzRkcFA3Y2ZJMnlDSG1rVHNoWDNSNkFGaktac2dUYWdFczdwLU5sZnhwSmlvVjBnLUloZFNUNnVOTDFSMm0wUm5MeXg3WUs3WE9tdWpoM3VpMGpYaEI1aWFhT2dHbmZv&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FDelhiMethodist%2F&v=U5uP-hFJ0g4) / delhimethodist (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rUk5uaVlTMmNxSlB5ZlV6ZEE2ZUg5MXxBTl9pYzRkcFA3Y2ZJMnlDSG1rVHNoWDNSNkFGaktac2dUYWdFczdwLU5sZnhwSmlvVjBnLUloZFNUNnVOTDFSMm0wUm5MeXg3WUs3WE9tdWpoM3VpMGpYaEI1aWFhT2dHbmZv&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FDelhiMethodist%2F&v=U5uP-hFJ0g4)Zach is a student in Asbury’s Course of study program. Here is a link to the overview of that program: https://asburyseminary.edu/course-of-... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rUXdIblEzUDVNeGNzRjR1VlBhVlp0UnxBTl9pYzRldFlySURoYkxyZDR0X0dFY3hmNmRtN1dic29jS2QwSkxld3hVNXZIOUNjdFE0RXJoWDlTLTVwLVpEbVRmcmJoRmhpVXFadDFKWkM1S05FUl9GV2pLM3J4akFScmt4&q=https%3A%2F%2Fasburyseminary.edu%2Fcourse-of-study%2F&v=U5uP-hFJ0g4)Also, here is the overview for United’s equivalent program (where I teach): https://united.edu/global-methodist-h... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rVG56Z2dTdXV6a1pmdzBfb19nU0VBWHxBTl9pYzRlanJ4b09SWmNKdXY5UTlPbnQxZ3VnVG5UYTVZLTJRbmI2dlEyVHI1U1RMMks4V0RMbGFDRmNHMmdtNDVaek5zdmJFQUQwSmFEUlNKMW9VQjMwSl9fTkpxamM4RmRM&q=https%3A%2F%2Funited.edu%2Fglobal-methodist-house-of-study%2F&v=U5uP-hFJ0g4)And here is the overview for the Wesley Biblical Seminary Course of Study: https://wbs.edu/programs/gmc/ (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rUkQ3Q01URlF1UEJJazZnYzJpbE5heXxBTl9pYzRkRVZKRld6aDNwMGtMNnAtSmdXdE51d1VrZTF0TXpCa1dyTU9MX0c5bzhJdkFodkdrVlZRTE9kNTRGY1lJZmlmVG5QeHRLc2x6SEtjbWVtelBnUENTME1SQnR6dlZn&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwbs.edu%2Fprograms%2Fgmc%2F&v=U5uP-hFJ0g4)If you know anyone who is doing faithful and fruitful ministry in the Upper Midwest Conference of the Global Methodist Church, let me know to reach out to them at pastortravis@marcusgrace.comYou can also check out my personal YouTube channel with lots of material: (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA-3TpZo3ql8pYz-WayTn3Q) / @tstevick1 (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA-3TpZo3ql8pYz-WayTn3Q)Also, I regularly post on Substack: Finally, you can find the church I serve at: https://www.marcusgrace.com Introduction: 0:00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5uP-hFJ0g4)How did you become a Christian: 0:35 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5uP-hFJ0g4&t=35s)How did you feel God’s calling to ministry?: 4:30 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5uP-hFJ0g4&t=270s)What do you see as characteristic of rural ministry?: 10:54 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5uP-hFJ0g4&t=654s)What has it been like to go from laity to clergy?: 13:28 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5uP-hFJ0g4&t=808s)The dangers of being “holier than thou”:20:00 What is God doing in Delhi?: 24:27 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5uP-hFJ0g4&t=1467s)What does your education look like at this point?: 29:40 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5uP-hFJ0g4&t=1780s)What sickness have you seen in churches?: 36:32 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5uP-hFJ0g4&t=2192s)Is there anything else you want to share?: 43:43 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5uP-hFJ0g4&t=2623s) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit travisstevick.substack.com (https://travisstevick.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

5 Sept 2026
Rev. Erin Wetzel Interview
Many thanks to Rev. Erin Wetzel for joining in this episode of “What You Have Seen and Heard.”If you want to know more about her church, Faithful Community Church, in Corning Iowa, check out their Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rVExPQldMSjBvLWprbGFxWGRFWXV2aHxBTl9pYzRmVzhoQlFYaEh5d1lYSlJIQ0VRR0Q2WjFReEluWUFqMU83UTVtUFhudVVGb3BNd1JTaktSZ3pndVdhaldnS1FuTjI4bUtGbHdXbFdLSFhSZU9nSTlmQlRtdEw3NnEz&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fprofile.php%3Fid%3D61552592939889&v=nepE4-hdGK8)Erin is a student in the Wesley Biblical Seminary Course of Study. Here is a link to the overview of that program: https://wbs.edu/programs/gmc/ (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rVGxSQTRRNFltWnQ2VmR4WXh0ZmUyaXxBTl9pYzRmODVRS3E1bEhWRVR4OW1haU1Qa0kxUlllaGR0NHNGRVhYUlJKMGlkNTZRUXpobUpTQzlfeEFEVVlIMUxUUDlfbVlQRGF4cXVYNW8xbTlvaEFoRGxrYVRlcTV1UUw1&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwbs.edu%2Fprograms%2Fgmc%2F&v=nepE4-hdGK8)Also, here is the overview for United’s equivalent program (where I teach): https://united.edu/global-methodist-h... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rUllMR1FJYVRTVGFZVVV3bGZ6ZHBsOHxBTl9pYzRkWk44QlllY1ZLMFYtWDhiQk9zZm5rWVBaRWg5Z3FhS1ZnVkt0Wi1mWFhVVkFEUkpMWTFvendsbV9JQlBiaVA4WEN4aVkwN09Ubjc1VlFxdkxnOC1hN3o5ektaZ1Vk&q=https%3A%2F%2Funited.edu%2Fglobal-methodist-house-of-study%2F&v=nepE4-hdGK8)And here is the overview for Asbury’s equivalent program: https://asburyseminary.edu/course-of-... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rUkhaU05vYTVXcWlyb2EwelRpblotdXxBTl9pYzRjc0NtdGdLaGJEUFNiSHNLbHRNQUVQX0l4U3FNeURsMEloQVprdURocEY4V3N4TXRvUUZvTmZPMEtHWUh6aFZ0QUFDY2k4ZnZIR0NsMEw0OVEwTFJHaXROYWx1cjRk&q=https%3A%2F%2Fasburyseminary.edu%2Fcourse-of-study%2F&v=nepE4-hdGK8)If you know anyone who is doing faithful and fruitful ministry in the Upper Midwest Conference of the Global Methodist Church, let me know to reach out to them at pastortravis@marcusgrace.comYou can also check out my personal YouTube channel with lots of material: (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA-3TpZo3ql8pYz-WayTn3Q) / @tstevick1 (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA-3TpZo3ql8pYz-WayTn3Q)Also, I regularly post on Substack: Finally, you can find the church I serve at: https://www.marcusgrace.com Introduction: 0:00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nepE4-hdGK8)How did you become a Christian: 0:45 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nepE4-hdGK8&t=45s)How did you feel God’s calling to ministry?: 3:45 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nepE4-hdGK8&t=225s)Have you faced any difficulties, being a woman in the pulpit?: 8:50 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nepE4-hdGK8&t=530s)How is life different now that you are a pastor?: 12:15 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nepE4-hdGK8&t=735s)What has your educational experience been like?: 19:20 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nepE4-hdGK8&t=1160s)How have pastor (and non-pastor) mentors impacted you?: 27:00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nepE4-hdGK8&t=1620s)What is a sickness you have seen in churches?: 34:55 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nepE4-hdGK8&t=2095s)How does your community size shape ministry?: 41:03 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nepE4-hdGK8&t=2463s)Is there anything else you want to share?: 45:40 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nepE4-hdGK8&t=2740s) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit travisstevick.substack.com (https://travisstevick.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

5 Sept 2026
Rev. Karl Dallefeld Interview
Many thanks to Rev. Karl Dallefeld for joining in this episode of “What You Have Seen and Heard.”If you want to know more about his church Prairie Creek in Grimes Iowa, check out their website at: https://www.westdubuquemethodistchurc... and their Facebook page at: (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rU2lOU2FmUE4wdklPLVdadUxDV1R2QXxBTl9pYzRlUVlSeWVQc2NIa0xaSUV0MHZsVHVpdWRMMHYtQm1sWDM4Q0pmX3dGVjU5emdrcGh4OHlDMXFwYS1NQzNiQl9EYXhHQm5MQ1ZBUFJOZU41dVhORzQ3MF9FbmJNMzg3&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fwdglobal%2F&v=ZOq9w1Em49g) / wdglobal (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rU2lOU2FmUE4wdklPLVdadUxDV1R2QXxBTl9pYzRlUVlSeWVQc2NIa0xaSUV0MHZsVHVpdWRMMHYtQm1sWDM4Q0pmX3dGVjU5emdrcGh4OHlDMXFwYS1NQzNiQl9EYXhHQm5MQ1ZBUFJOZU41dVhORzQ3MF9FbmJNMzg3&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fwdglobal%2F&v=ZOq9w1Em49g)Karl is a student in the Wesley Biblical Seminary Course of Study. Here is a link to the overview of that program: https://wbs.edu/programs/gmc/ (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rU1B6XzNRemE3S1FPTmplbjNOTFpwWHxBTl9pYzRmeXJmMjQzLU42aFFRVXRFNGhXdWJXcGJvMEpnRl9DeTdoNkUtVUNDaEZOaEd1VXQ4Y2xoQ0EtS215Y1R0NnI3bzU5LU5DYWtsNEdUTkVBRkJ2ZGx4Y2JBRzZPYllU&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwbs.edu%2Fprograms%2Fgmc%2F&v=ZOq9w1Em49g)Also, here is the overview for United’s equivalent program (where I teach): https://united.edu/global-methodist-h... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rUUs5UExyX20xTGxuTEM0c3Y4Qjd5ZHxBTl9pYzRmLXhvT0RHenRsYmNuWnFOZWQ3Z2tFNEowbUV2TmozbnNsWjFndVIyNldYZmJjT19WT2JsdXFiQ1hqUnlPMjVsWGlZLWQ1cDg0NTFTQS1oOFJPcTNzOUFkVVkxRHpx&q=https%3A%2F%2Funited.edu%2Fglobal-methodist-house-of-study%2F&v=ZOq9w1Em49g)And here is the overview for Asbury’s equivalent program: https://asburyseminary.edu/course-of-... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rU3BEbUdTVy05VzhWT2ExY2pIM2otTHxBTl9pYzRjUkRMa2xnZzFJVmV2WVVEMExXSDdHMEZjR1h4dk1nc1U1U3FDcHMxbGs0T25iU3lVaE9PcVZMS1JvMzZSZ2gwbjNHVHlXWG90cDRFUVVEcGpDTVpISkNUYlBmZGFW&q=https%3A%2F%2Fasburyseminary.edu%2Fcourse-of-study%2F&v=ZOq9w1Em49g)If you know anyone who is doing faithful and fruitful ministry in the Upper Midwest Conference of the Global Methodist Church, let me know to reach out to them at pastortravis@marcusgrace.comYou can also check out my personal YouTube channel with lots of material: (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA-3TpZo3ql8pYz-WayTn3Q) / @tstevick1 (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA-3TpZo3ql8pYz-WayTn3Q)Also, I regularly post on Substack: Finally, you can find the church I serve at: https://www.marcusgrace.com Introduction: 0:00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOq9w1Em49g)How did you become a Christian: 1:10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOq9w1Em49g&t=70s)How did you feel God’s calling to ministry?: 7:54 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOq9w1Em49g&t=474s)What has it been like to go from laity to clergy?: 11:15 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOq9w1Em49g&t=675s)What does your education look like at this point?: 18:45 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOq9w1Em49g&t=1125s)What sickness have you seen in churches?: 26:10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOq9w1Em49g&t=1570s)What is God doing at West Dubuque Methodist Church?: 29:30 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOq9w1Em49g&t=1770s)If you could talk to yourself ten years ago, what would you tell him?: 35:48 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOq9w1Em49g&t=2148s)Is there anything else you want to share?: 37:35 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOq9w1Em49g&t=2255s)Tell us about your circuit experience: 38:55 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOq9w1Em49g&t=2335s)Concluding the Conversation: 46:35 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOq9w1Em49g&t=2795s) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit travisstevick.substack.com (https://travisstevick.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

5 Sept 2026
Rev. Ben Wedeking Interview
Many thanks to Rev. Ben Wedeking for joining in this episode of “What You Have Seen and Heard.”I apologize for the odd focus issues in my camera. My usual device for recording my side of things had a problem and I had to improvise.If you want to know more about his church Prairie Creek in Grimes Iowa, check out their website at: https://pcgrimes.com and their Facebook page at: (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rUXRncTI4Z2Z4UnFYTFhNZzZLR2ZiV3xBTl9pYzRlcUwxZHZueDBPMmtWYTVmWmdBNU5GQXFqYi1Lenpqb1habnI5ZUFqSkdTc19PX3luOXN0bGNKYVRiWl95c2h3QXhwWWc3MjlxbEQtNTZIZW9kcE56RHRnZER5S1Nu&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fpcgrimesfb&v=QsVETaF-6k0) / pcgrimesfb (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rUXRncTI4Z2Z4UnFYTFhNZzZLR2ZiV3xBTl9pYzRlcUwxZHZueDBPMmtWYTVmWmdBNU5GQXFqYi1Lenpqb1habnI5ZUFqSkdTc19PX3luOXN0bGNKYVRiWl95c2h3QXhwWWc3MjlxbEQtNTZIZW9kcE56RHRnZER5S1Nu&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fpcgrimesfb&v=QsVETaF-6k0)If you know anyone who is doing faithful and fruitful ministry in the Upper Midwest Conference of the Global Methodist Church, let me know to reach out to them at pastortravis@marcusgrace.comYou can also check out my personal YouTube channel with lots of material: (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA-3TpZo3ql8pYz-WayTn3Q) / @tstevick1 (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA-3TpZo3ql8pYz-WayTn3Q)Also, I regularly post on Substack: Finally, you can find the church I serve at: https://www.marcusgrace.com Introduction: 0:00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsVETaF-6k0)How did you become a Christian: 0:34 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsVETaF-6k0&t=34s)How did you feel God’s calling to ministry?: 8:43 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsVETaF-6k0&t=523s)In what ways is being a “lead pastor” different than being in youth ministry?: 17:03 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsVETaF-6k0&t=1023s)What is God doing at Prairie Creek?: 22:26 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsVETaF-6k0&t=1346s)How has your leadership changed over the past 11 years at Prairie Creek?: 27:02 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsVETaF-6k0&t=1622s)What kind of sickness effects a lot of churches: 31:13 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsVETaF-6k0&t=1873s)What did you learn during COVID that shapes you today?: 37:35 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsVETaF-6k0&t=2255s)What are the strengths and weaknesses of ministering in an urban environment?: 42:20 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsVETaF-6k0&t=2540s)What is something that you have you learned through experience in ministry?: 47:45 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsVETaF-6k0&t=2865s)Is there anything else you want to share?: 49:34 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsVETaF-6k0&t=2974s)Concluding the Conversation: 51:27 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsVETaF-6k0&t=3087s) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit travisstevick.substack.com (https://travisstevick.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

5 Sept 2026
Interview with Rev. Zach Kingery
Many thanks to Rev. Zach Kingery for joining in this episode of “What You Have Seen and Heard.”If you want to know more about Dirt Roads Network, check out their website at: https://www.dirtroadsnetwork.com If you know anyone who is doing faithful and fruitful ministry in the Upper Midwest Conference of the Global Methodist Church, let me know to reach out to them at pastortravis@marcusgrace.comYou can also check out my personal YouTube channel with lots of material: (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA-3TpZo3ql8pYz-WayTn3Q) / @tstevick1 (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA-3TpZo3ql8pYz-WayTn3Q)Also, I regularly post on Substack: Finally, you can find the church I serve at: https://www.marcusgrace.com Introduction: How did you become a Christian: 0:46 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7NqTFZdeaA&t=46s)How did you experience a call to ministry (also discussion about Dirt Roads Network): 18:52 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7NqTFZdeaA&t=1132s)Small Rural Churches and Mega Churches: 37:45 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7NqTFZdeaA&t=2265s)What sickness have you seen in chuches that needs to be healed: 42:15 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7NqTFZdeaA&t=2535s)Concluding the Conversation: 1:02:33 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7NqTFZdeaA&t=3753s) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit travisstevick.substack.com (https://travisstevick.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

5 Sept 2026
Interview with Rev. Mike Jones
Many thanks to Rev. Mike Jones for joining in this episode of “What You Have Seen and Heard.”If you want to know more about his church Calvary Church of Walcott, check out their Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUM4Zm9rUWxPQ1R5ZHI5enBOSElZU2hIZW56MXxBTl9pYzRlRzJlMUFuQm5ueHdHOFZ6MjBHUk9VbkhzWjI3U3p0bW02ZjdjVG4yWDA2bHliUElyeUpxQTlPdklJUVdfeHZPa2R3SHFLVW1ETFFZbDVCWkJyQmpYVGVzYWo3dWs3&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fprofile.php%3Fid%3D61552821275144&v=LetuseB0tFk)If you know anyone who is doing faithful and fruitful ministry in the Upper Midwest Conference of the Global Methodist Church, let me know to reach out to them at pastortravis@marcusgrace.comYou can also check out my personal YouTube channel with lots of material: (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA-3TpZo3ql8pYz-WayTn3Q) / @tstevick1 (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA-3TpZo3ql8pYz-WayTn3Q)Also, I regularly post on Substack: Finally, you can find the church I serve at: https://www.marcusgrace.com Introduction: 0:00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LetuseB0tFk)How did you become a Christian: 0:56 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LetuseB0tFk&t=56s)How important is it to have people encouraging your faith?: 9:22 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LetuseB0tFk&t=562s)How did you get started in ministry: 12:55 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LetuseB0tFk&t=775s)How did you discern the transition from youth pastor to lead pastor?: 18:34 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LetuseB0tFk&t=1114s)What are the good and bad things about small town ministry?: 21:31 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LetuseB0tFk&t=1291s)What has God been doing in Walcott?: 24:52 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LetuseB0tFk&t=1492s)How have the laity been joining in the ministry?: 30:08 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LetuseB0tFk&t=1808s)How has your background impacted how you do ministry?: 34:01 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LetuseB0tFk&t=2041s)How has your educational training helped you to be a faithful pastor?: 36:27 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LetuseB0tFk&t=2187s)What will your Annual Conference breakout session be like? 40:25 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LetuseB0tFk&t=2425s)What kind of sickness effects a lot of churches: 47:03 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LetuseB0tFk&t=2823s)Concluding the Conversation: 52:15 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LetuseB0tFk&t=3135s) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit travisstevick.substack.com (https://travisstevick.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

1 Sept 2026
Interview with Rev. Mike Morgan
Many thanks to Rev. Mike Morgan for braving the waters for this first episode of "What You Have Seen and Heard."If you want to know more about the church he talked about, 1927 Church Des Moines, check out their website at: https://www.1927church.org or their Instagram page at: https://www.instagram.com/1927churchIf you know anyone who is doing faithful and fruitful ministry in the Upper Midwest Conference of the Global Methodist Church, let me know to reach out to them at pastortravis@marcusgrace.comYou can also check out my personal YouTube channel with lots of material: https://youtube.com/@tstevick1?si=xY3JqLYzJJk3qQ37Also, I regularly post on Substack: https://travisstevick.substack.comFinally, you can find the church I serve at: https://www.marcusgrace.comIntroduction: 0:00How did you become a Christian: 1:24How did you experience a call to ministry: 11:18Where do pastors and leaders come from: 24:03What important things have you have learned in ministry: 28:51What kind of sickness effects a lot of churches: 40:10What did you learn from experience was more important than you thought: 47:25Tell us about the church you are part of: 51:38Concluding the Conversation: 1:00:09 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit travisstevick.substack.com (https://travisstevick.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)
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