Whats Best For The Patient Is Best For Business

About Whats Best For The Patient Is Best For Business

The podcast to help Healthcare and Physio Practice owners who want growth, scalability and financial performance in their businesses! The focus here is on connecting together all the touch points in the business to create Patient Success!

Publisher

Jerry Durham

Category

business · health & fitness

Language

en

Explicit

Yes

First episode

28 Apr 2021

Latest episode

9 Dec 2025

Latest episodes

7 of 158 episodes have a transcript.

1. 

   9 Dec 2025TRANSCRIPT

   CJ Morrow - PT and AI... its ready, are you?!

   In this episode of What's Best For The Patient Is Best For The Business, Jerry sits down with CJ, founder of CJM Strategic Consulting, for a deep dive into the intersection of AI, technology, and physical therapy practice. Recording in late November 2025, fresh off PPS (which looked more like a tech conference than ever before), this conversation tackles the most pressing questions facing PTs today: Where does AI fit? What's our role? And how do we become architects of the future rather than replaceable cogs in the system? CJ brings a unique perspective—starting her career at Johnson & Johnson in quality engineering and operations, then transitioning to PT, working through digital health at Hinge Health, and now consulting with healthcare tech startups. She's seen both sides: the promise of technology and the reality of implementation without clinical empathy. This isn't a conversation about AI taking jobs. It's about PTs stepping up to train the systems, becoming context experts rather than task experts, and recognizing that in November 2025, AI needs us more than we need it. From ambient listening technology to benefit verification to documentation, Jerry and CJ explore why reviewing AI outputs isn't busywork—it's building the architecture for the entire profession's future. Key topics include: the human-in-the-loop vs. human-on-the-loop distinction, why documentation quality matters more than ever, how to add value to AI platforms, the risk of automation bias and deskilling, why coordination beats siloed care, and how one team member got a massive raise by managing their AI model effectively. If you're wondering where you fit in this tech-enabled future, this conversation will give you clarity—and a call to action. Key Takeaways - AI Needs Us More Than We Need It (November 2025): Right now, AI systems need expert clinicians to train them, correct them, and build the architecture for future improvements. This is our opportunity to shape these tools rather than let them shape us—but that window won't last forever. - You're Not Reviewing Notes—You're Building Systems: When you review AI-generated documentation, you're not just checking for accuracy. You're teaching the system what matters, how to think like a PT, and creating the foundation for better care delivery across the entire profession. - From Task Expert to Context Expert: The future of PT isn't about getting faster at individual tasks—it's about becoming context experts who understand the bigger picture. This shift from fragmented task completion to systems thinking is what will separate thriving practices from struggling ones. - Documentation Will Finally Reflect Reality: For decades, we've documented to get paid, not to show our value. Ambient listening and AI documentation tools are changing that—capturing education, clinical decision-making, and the full scope of what we do. This will change billing patterns and prove our worth. - Reskilling Is Really Re-Evaluating: You don't need to learn entirely new skills—you need to re-evaluate how you apply your existing expertise. The electrician doesn't become a mason; they become a systems architect who understands how electrical work fits into the whole building. - Embrace the Stairs in the Age of Escalators: Technology offers automation, but we must actively choose to maintain our clinical reasoning skills. Just as we tell patients to take the stairs for physical health, we must "take the stairs" mentally—continuing to think critically even when AI offers easier paths. If you'd like to learn more about Strata EMR & RCM and achieving a 99.99% reimbursement rate for your PT, OT, or SLP Clinic head over to stratapt.com (https://www.stratapt.com/) and book a demo with their team! (https://www.stratapt.com/schedule-a-demo)

2. 

   2 Dec 2025

   Dr. Katie O'Bright - Primary Care PT

   In this episode of What's Best For The Patient Is Best For The Business, Jerry welcomes back Katie O'bright, founder of Redefine Health Education, for a much-needed update on the primary care physical therapy movement. Recording just days after speaking at a conference in Alabama on patient engagement, Jerry recognized it was time to catch up with Katie—a leader who consistently exemplifies putting patients first while building sustainable business models. Katie returns to the show (her first appearance was 1.5-2 years ago) at a pivotal moment for the profession. In 2025, the ABPTS primary care clinical specialization finally passed the House of Delegates, creating the first pathway for physical therapists to become board-certified primary care specialists. This isn't just another certification—it's a fundamental repositioning of what physical therapists can be in the healthcare system. Drawing from her military background where she served as an embedded PT in a soldier-centered medical home, Katie breaks down what primary care PT actually means, how it differs from traditional outpatient practice (3 feet deep and 3 miles wide vs. 1 foot wide and 10 miles deep), and why this model represents the future of the profession. She shares the comprehensive consensus definition developed by the Primary Care Special Interest Group, explains multiple payment models (fee-for-service, direct-to-employer, direct-to-consumer), and announces her upcoming Primary Care PT Startup Workshop for Business Leaders launching in 2026. Key Takeaways - Primary Care PT Certification Changes Everything: Unlike previous PT specializations, the new ABPTS primary care clinical specialty creates a pathway for PTs to be recognized as primary care providers for neuromusculoskeletal conditions—potentially opening doors to CMS recognition and reimbursement changes that could transform the profession. - Scope Redefined: 3 Feet Deep, 3 Miles Wide: Primary care PTs practice with a fundamentally different scope than traditional outpatient therapists. Instead of deep specialization in one area (1 foot wide, 10 miles deep), they provide broad-spectrum care (3 feet deep, 3 miles wide)—managing first contact, ongoing preventive and reactive health services as integral members of primary care teams. - Multiple Settings, Multiple Payment Models: Primary care PT isn't limited to medical clinics. Katie outlines how this model works in work sites, community centers, schools, sports facilities, wellness centers, and homes—with payment ranging from fee-for-service to direct-to-employer contracts to membership-based direct-to-consumer models. - You Don't Have to Blow Up Your Business: Practice owners don't need to abandon their current model to integrate primary care PT principles. Adding acute care slots, implementing risk stratification, or establishing relationships with value-based care organizations can enhance existing practices while opening new revenue streams. - The Profession Isn't Ready (And That's Okay): Katie acknowledges that primary care PT isn't for every physical therapist—and that's fine. The profession needs therapists in all settings. But for those ready to practice at the top of their scope, think differently about risk management, and engage with population health, the opportunity is massive. - Physicians Want This: Katie shares stories of physicians and orthopedic surgeons actively reaching out to recruit PTs into their practices. The barrier isn't physician resistance—it's that many PTs haven't learned to speak the language of primary care or understand value-based care arrangements. If you'd like to learn more about Strata EMR & RCM and achieving a 99.99% reimbursement rate for your PT, OT, or SLP Clinic head over to stratapt.com (https://www.stratapt.com/) and book a demo with their team! (https://www.stratapt.com/schedule-a-demo)

3. 

   26 Nov 2025TRANSCRIPT

   PPS 2025 Recap: PAUL SINGH

   In this episode of What's Best For The Patient Is Best For The Business, Jerry sits down with Paul Singh CEO of StrataPT, just days after the 2025 Private Practice Section (PPS) conference in Florida. They dive deep into Paul's highly attended presentation, "Moneyball for PT Practices," and discuss the evolving landscape of physical therapy practice ownership, M&A strategy, and the tech transformation happening in the industry. Paul brings a unique Silicon Valley perspective to healthcare, drawing from his extensive background in tech investing and startups. He breaks down the critical difference between "getting bought" versus "getting sold" - a concept that resonated powerfully with practice owners seeking to understand their true business value and exit strategies. From the packed exhibit hall filled with AI-powered solutions to the contrasting conversations about clinician burnout happening in the conference rooms, Jerry and Paul provide an unfiltered assessment of where the PT industry stands and where it's heading. They explore the influx of venture capital, the proliferation of new tech players, and what it all means for practice owners trying to build valuable, sustainable businesses. Key Takeaways - Getting Bought vs. Getting Sold: There's a fundamental difference between putting a "for sale" sign on your practice (which creates downward price pressure) and being so valuable that buyers come knocking without prompting. Paul illustrates this with the Mint.com story - how understanding WHY a buyer wants to acquire you can 10x your valuation in six months. - Build to Grow, Not Just to Exit: The activities required to prepare a practice for acquisition are identical to those needed to grow a thriving business. Practice owners should focus on creating genuine business value rather than just preparing for a sale. - Think Like a Consumer Business: The most valuable PT practices will be built by owners who think of themselves as consumer businesses, not just healthcare providers. This mindset shift is what creates billion-dollar exit opportunities. - The Tech Conference vs. The Burnout Conference: PPS 2025 revealed a stark dichotomy - the exhibit hall was dominated by well-funded tech companies and AI solutions, while just 1000 feet away, packed rooms of practice owners discussed preventing burnout and retaining clinicians. This disconnect reveals where the industry's growing pains lie. - Output Over Features: With every vendor claiming AI capabilities, the critical question shifts from "what technology do you have?" to "what outcome do I get?" Practice owners need to demand billing-aware, audit-safe solutions that deliver measurable results, not just impressive features. If you'd like to learn more about Strata EMR & RCM and achieving a 99.99% reimbursement rate for your PT, OT, or SLP Clinic head over to stratapt.com (https://www.stratapt.com/) and book a demo with their team! (https://www.stratapt.com/schedule-a-demo)

Inside a recent episode

CJ Morrow - PT and AI... its ready, are you?!

Published 9 Dec 2025 · Transcript excerpt

[…] So when we think about, When I think about going back to the right patient, right time, right place, that's around access. Are we bringing in the patient to sit in front of me as a PT that needs a PT, but not only that, that needs my expertise? And if I had stayed in the clinic, what I wanted my niche to be was orthopedic injuries and a chronic neuro population. And so am I sitting, am I the right provider type? Am I the right provider? And then from there, when we start thinking about how we document now, we document now in order to get paid. Thanks for saying that before I had to. Yeah. And so... […]

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• Lindsey Kenny
• Rich Kenny
• Paul Singh
• Stephen Rapposelli
• Matt Phifer

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