What if the justice system was about more than punishment? What if it actually helped people build more stable, productive lives and safer communities in the process? In Season 2 of When it Clicked, we're showing you what a better justice system looks and feels like. Instead of just focusing on what's broken, we're exploring what’s already working and what we need to do more of – and where there are glaring gaps. We’ll hear from some industry legends, including a major film producer on how we can think differently about youth accountability, a tech CEO on how to modernize prison data systems with AI, and the head of a major government institution on how to change prison so it can change people. Join host Ana Zamora as she finds out when it clicked for them, and why we should all care about a better way forward for our justice system.
When It Clicked
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What if the justice system was about more than punishment? What if it actually helped people build more stable, productive lives and safer communities in the process? In Season 2 of When it Clicked, we're showing you what a better justice system looks and feels like. Instead of just focusing on what's broken, we're exploring what’s already working and what we need to do more of – and where there are glaring gaps. We’ll hear from some industry legends, including a major film producer on how we can think differently about youth accountability, a tech CEO on how to modernize prison data systems with AI, and the head of a major government institution on how to change prison so it can change people. Join host Ana Zamora as she finds out when it clicked for them, and why we should all care about a better way forward for our justice system.
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Recent Episodes
December 17, 2025
A Better Way To Right Wrongs in the Justice System
<p>What would it look like if our justice system could identify when we get things wrong – and actually fix those mistakes? WNBA legend Maya Moore stepped away from basketball at the peak of her career to help free Jonathan Irons, who spent over 20 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit. Now married, their story reveals what's possible when we stay connected across prison walls, fight to make the system more accountable, and refuse to accept injustice. </p> <p>To learn more, visit Maya and Jonathan’s nonprofit at <a href="http://winwithjustice.org">winwithjustice.org</a>, and be sure to check out their documentary, Breakaway. </p> <p>Follow When it Clicked wherever you get your podcasts. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.</p> <p>Want to become a Lemonada superfan? Join us at <a href="http://joinsubtext.com/lemonadasuperfan">joinsubtext.com/lemonadasuperfan</a>.</p> <p>Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and all other Lemonada series: <a href="http://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors">lemonadamedia.com/sponsors</a>.</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>
December 17, 2025
A Better Way For Prisons To Leverage AI With Clementine Jacoby
<p>How can new technologies help prisons improve outcomes for people and communities? Outdated systems mean incarcerated people often lack a clear pathway to release – and might even overstay their prison sentence simply because of disorganized data. Clementine Jacoby, CEO and cofounder of Recidiviz, is tackling this problem by working with corrections departments across the country to modernize their data systems and introduce AI solutions. By enabling prisons to do their jobs more efficiently and effectively, Recidiviz has helped 156,000 incarcerated people safely return home and saved states more than 1.3 billion dollars. </p> <p>To learn more about the work happening at Recidiviz, visit <a href="http://recidiviz.org">recidiviz.org</a>.</p> <p>Follow When it Clicked wherever you get your podcasts. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.</p> <p>Want to become a Lemonada superfan? Join us at <a href="http://joinsubtext.com/lemonadasuperfan">joinsubtext.com/lemonadasuperfan</a>.</p> <p>Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and all other Lemonada series: <a href="http://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors">lemonadamedia.com/sponsors</a>.</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>
December 10, 2025
A Better Way to Treat Kids Who Make Mistakes with Scott Budnick
<p>How can we think differently about accountability for kids in the justice system? Hollywood producer Scott Budnick built his career making blockbuster hits like The Hangover, but his real passion is working with incarcerated youth. In this episode, Scott talks about how one visit to a juvenile hall reshaped his purpose and set him on a mission to support young people caught in the justice system. As founder of the Anti-Recidivism Coalition and CEO of 1Community, Scott is helping youth rewrite their stories – and pushing for a system that gives them a real chance.</p> <p>Learn more about the Anti Recidivism Coalition at <a href="http://antirecidivism.org">antirecidivism.org</a> and 1Community at <a href="http://1community.com">1community.com</a>.</p> <p>Follow When it Clicked wherever you get your podcasts. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.</p> <p>Want to become a Lemonada superfan? Join us at <a href="http://joinsubtext.com/lemonadasuperfan">joinsubtext.com/lemonadasuperfan</a>.</p> <p>Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and all other Lemonada series: <a href="http://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors">lemonadamedia.com/sponsors</a>.</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>
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