
When There Are No Words
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<p>Conversations with artists exploring grief and hope in their work.</p><br><p>Following the release of Michael J Tinker's own album exploring loss and hope ('When There Are No Words' 2023) he decided to embark on this new podcast interviewing other artists who have looked at similar themes. Chatting to Christian authors, songwriters and visual artists Michael discusses what draws them to this difficult topic, how they navigate stewarding both their own story and other people's, and how they seek to honestly portray the Christian journey through this life to eternity. And despite (or maybe because of) the difficult subject, these are truly uplifting conversations.</p><br><p>In the first series Michael interviews author <a href="https://store.rabbitroom.com/collections/douglas-mckelvey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Doug McKelvey</a> ('<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781951872052/every-moment-holy-volume-2-imitation-leather" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Every Moment Holy</a>'), author and songwriter <a href="https://www.andrew-peterson.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andrew Peterson</a> (<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/KBWRMS3R/the-wingfeather-saga-pack" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wingfeather Saga</a>, 'Is He Worthy?', The Burning Edge of Dawn), painter <a href="https://www.alastairjohngordon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ally Gordon</a> (Morphe Arts, '<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781789742367/why-art-matters-paperback" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why Art Matters</a>'), author <a href="https://reformation-lightning.myshopify.com/products/the-dark-star?pr_prod_strat=copurchase&pr_rec_id=65a097fc1&pr_rec_pid=7538048139491&pr_ref_pid=7781499699427&pr_seq=uniform" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hannah Hess</a> (<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781838188368/the-dark-star-paperback" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Star</a>), songwriter <a href="https://www.saragroves.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sara Groves</a> (Floodplains), writer and artist <a href="https://www.perishandfade.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sophie Killingley</a> ('<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781784986858/draw-near-paperback" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Draw Near</a>') and author and painter <a href="https://jaminstill.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jamin Still</a> (who's candle image you can see on the album cover).</p><br><p>There will be lots of book giveaways as well as special <a href="http://10ofthose.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">10ofthose.com</a> discount codes for listeners.</p><br><p>This podcast is sponsored by <a href="http://10ofthose.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">10ofthose</a>. Their vision is to help everyone in the church to read books that excite them about Jesus and to give away books that point others to Him. </p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
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August 8, 2023
Michael J Tinker
<p><a href="https://michaeljtinker.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Michael-J-Tinker-Interview.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Download the transcript here</strong></a>.</p><p>This series is sponsored by <a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">10ofthose</a>. Resources that point people to Jesus change lives.</p><p>The title music is '<a href="https://michaeljtinker.bandcamp.com/album/when-there-are-no-words" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When There Are No Words</a>' by <a href="https://michaeljtinker.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michael J Tinker</a>. The closing song is '<a href="https://michaeljtinker.bandcamp.com/track/speak-softly" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Speak Softly</a>' from the same album.</p><p>Artwork by <a href="https://jaminstill.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jamin Still</a>.</p><p><br></p><blockquote>Because of the gospel we should grieve when there is loss because the gospel tells us that death is not right... because he came to defeat it we should mourn its effects now... but we do not mourn as those without hope.</blockquote><p><br></p><p>In the final episode of this series I'm interviewed by Rachel Redeemed! We talk about the importance of imagination when it comes to thinking about grief, hope and eternity. We chat about the story behind the album, how it was written, the difficulties and the joys.</p><br><p>This article in <a href="https://www.premierchristianity.com/features/imagining-eternity-daring-to-dream-of-life-after-death/15819.article" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Premier magazine</a> is referred to during the conversation. All the songs talked about can be<a href="https://michaeljtinker.bandcamp.com/album/when-there-are-no-words" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> listened to here</a>.</p><br><p>If you'd like to hear a second season of the podcast please become a <a href="https://plus.acast.com/s/nowords" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">supporter at acast+</a>.</p><p><br></p><blockquote>Remember! Competitions and discounts are available for anyone in the UK, Europe and the USA!</blockquote><p><br></p><p>All the competitions have now finished, but please keep sharing the podcast so others can hear it... and if there is a second series there will be many more competitions to enter!!</p><br><p>Other discounts you can get as listeners to the podcast:</p><p>'<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781433561481/dark-clouds-deep-mercy-paperback" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy</a>' (30%) :: nowordsSG23</p><p>'<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781535949026/adorning-the-dark-paperback" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adorning the Dark</a>' (30%) :: nowordsAP23</p><p>'<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781789742367/why-art-matters-paperback" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why Art Matters</a>' (30%) :: nowordsAG23</p><p>'<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781784986858/draw-near-paperback" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Draw Near</a>' (30%) :: nowordsSK23</p><p><a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/series/callenlas-chronicles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Callenlas Chronicles</a> (50% discount!) :: nowordsHH23</p><br><p><u>About Your Host</u></p><p>Michael J Tinker is a singer-songwriter based in Somerset, England.</p><p>He normally is found making music for children but has recently released an album exploring grief and hope, which led him to want to talk to other artists who are doing the same.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

August 1, 2023
Hannah Hess
<p><a href="https://michaeljtinker.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Hannah-Hess-Interview.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Download the transcript here.</strong></a></p><p>This series is sponsored by <a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">10ofthose</a>. Resources that point people to Jesus change lives.</p><p>The title music is '<a href="https://michaeljtinker.bandcamp.com/album/when-there-are-no-words" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When There Are No Words</a>' by <a href="https://michaeljtinker.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michael J Tinker</a>. The closing song is <a href="https://michaeljtinker.bandcamp.com/track/ill-hear-you-speak-my-name" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">'I'll Hear You Speak My Name</a>' from the same album.</p><p>Artwork by <a href="https://jaminstill.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jamin Still</a>.</p><p><br></p><blockquote>Knowing good will come enables us to read the story, to go on the journey. The hope enables us to travel through this pain.</blockquote><p><br></p><p>We've chatted with a Scotsman, an Englishwoman... and now for someone from Wales! Hannah Hess is an author from Cardiff and we talk about her series of books for kids and teens. Her main characters start from a place of brokenness and we discuss how knowing the end of the story helps us journey through it.</p><br><p>During the episode Hannah reads from her short story '<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781916669024/the-water-maiden-of-lealos" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Water Maiden of Lealos</a>' which is out in October.</p><p><br></p><blockquote><strong>Remember! </strong>Competitions and discounts are available for anyone in the UK, Europe and the USA!</blockquote><p><br></p><p>All the competitions have now finished, but please keep sharing the podcast so others can hear it... and if there is a second series there will be many more competitions to enter!!</p><br><p><strong>This week's offer is a whopping 50% off </strong><a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/series/callenlas-chronicles" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Hannah's books</strong></a> at 10ofthose! Use the code nowordsHH23</p><br><p>Other discounts you can get as listeners to the podcast:</p><p>'<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781433561481/dark-clouds-deep-mercy-paperback" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy</a>' :: nowordsSG23</p><p>'<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781535949026/adorning-the-dark-paperback" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adorning the Dark</a>' :: nowordsAP23</p><p>'<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781789742367/why-art-matters-paperback" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why Art Matters</a>' :: nowordsAG23</p><p>'<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781784986858/draw-near-paperback" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Draw Near</a>' :: nowordsSK23</p><br><p><u>About Your Host</u></p><p>Michael J Tinker is a singer-songwriter based in Somerset, England.</p><p>He normally is found making music for children but has recently released an album exploring grief and hope, which led him to want to talk to other artists who are doing the same.</p><p>Check out the album at <a href="https://michaeljtinker.com/product/nowords/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">michaeljtinker.com</a></p><p>Also, why not have a listen to our <a href="https://shows.acast.com/tinker-time" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sister-podcast for all the family - 'Tinker-Time!</a>'</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

July 25, 2023
Sophie Killingley
<p><a href="https://michaeljtinker.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Sophie-Killingley-Interview.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Download the transcript here.</strong></a></p><p>This series is sponsored by <a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">10ofthose</a>. Resources that point people to Jesus change lives.</p><p>The title music is '<a href="https://michaeljtinker.bandcamp.com/album/when-there-are-no-words" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">When There Are No Words</a>' by <a href="https://michaeljtinker.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Michael J Tinker</a>. The closing song is '<a href="https://michaeljtinker.bandcamp.com/track/goodnight-to-the-old-year" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Goodnight to the Old Year</a>' from the same album.</p><p>Artwork by <a href="https://jaminstill.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jamin Still</a>.</p><p><br></p><blockquote>We don't need to worry that going into the darkness means going into an abyss that will never end. We can keep on digging. We don't need to fear that place of darkness and grief because that is not the end.</blockquote><p><br></p><p>For the second of my chats with British artists I talk with cartoonist and painter <a href="https://www.perishandfade.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sophie Killingley</a>. We discuss the grief and loss of church trauma and the importance of naming it so. We look at how art helps express that loss, and how it helped Sophie in her own walk with that kind of grief.</p><br><p>The artwork we talk about can all be found on a <a href="https://www.perishandfade.com/s-projects-basic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">dedicated page on Sophie's website</a>.</p><br><p>All the competitions have now finished, but please keep sharing the podcast so others can hear it... and if there is a second series there will be many more competitions to enter!!</p><br><p>Get 30% off Sophie's book '<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781784986858/draw-near-paperback" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Draw Near</a>' EXCLUSIVELY as a podcast listener on the <a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781784986858/draw-near-paperback" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">10ofthose website</a> using the code nowordsSK23.</p><br><p>Other discounts you can get as listeners to the podcast:</p><p>'<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781433561481/dark-clouds-deep-mercy-paperback" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy</a>' :: nowordsSG23</p><p>'<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781535949026/adorning-the-dark-paperback" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adorning the Dark</a>' :: nowordsAP23</p><p>'<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781789742367/why-art-matters-paperback" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why Art Matters</a>' :: nowordsAG23</p><br><p><u>About Your Host</u></p><p>Michael J Tinker is a singer-songwriter based in Somerset, England.</p><p>He normally is found making music for children but has recently released an album exploring grief and hope, which led him to want to talk to other artists who are doing the same.</p><p>Check out the album at <a href="https://michaeljtinker.com/product/nowords/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">michaeljtinker.com</a></p><p>Also, why not have a listen to our <a href="https://shows.acast.com/tinker-time" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sister-podcast for all the family - 'Tinker-Time!</a>'</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
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- What is When There Are No Words?
<p>Conversations with artists exploring grief and hope in their work.</p><br><p>Following the release of Michael J Tinker's own album exploring loss and hope ('When There Are No Words' 2023) he decided to embark on this new podcast interviewing other artists who have looked at similar themes. Chatting to Christian authors, songwriters and visual artists Michael discusses what draws them to this difficult topic, how they navigate stewarding both their own story and other people's, and how they seek to honestly portray the Christian journey through this life to eternity. And despite (or maybe because of) the difficult subject, these are truly uplifting conversations.</p><br><p>In the first series Michael interviews author <a href="https://store.rabbitroom.com/collections/douglas-mckelvey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Doug McKelvey</a> ('<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781951872052/every-moment-holy-volume-2-imitation-leather" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Every Moment Holy</a>'), author and songwriter <a href="https://www.andrew-peterson.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andrew Peterson</a> (<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/KBWRMS3R/the-wingfeather-saga-pack" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Wingfeather Saga</a>, 'Is He Worthy?', The Burning Edge of Dawn), painter <a href="https://www.alastairjohngordon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ally Gordon</a> (Morphe Arts, '<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781789742367/why-art-matters-paperback" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Why Art Matters</a>'), author <a href="https://reformation-lightning.myshopify.com/products/the-dark-star?pr_prod_strat=copurchase&pr_rec_id=65a097fc1&pr_rec_pid=7538048139491&pr_ref_pid=7781499699427&pr_seq=uniform" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hannah Hess</a> (<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781838188368/the-dark-star-paperback" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dark Star</a>), songwriter <a href="https://www.saragroves.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sara Groves</a> (Floodplains), writer and artist <a href="https://www.perishandfade.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sophie Killingley</a> ('<a href="https://uk.10ofthose.com/product/9781784986858/draw-near-paperback" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Draw Near</a>') and author and painter <a href="https://jaminstill.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jamin Still</a> (who's candle image you can see on the album cover).</p><br><p>There will be lots of book giveaways as well as special <a href="http://10ofthose.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">10ofthose.com</a> discount codes for listeners.</p><br><p>This podcast is sponsored by <a href="http://10ofthose.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">10ofthose</a>. Their vision is to help everyone in the church to read books that excite them about Jesus and to give away books that point others to Him. </p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
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