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Where it's AT - the Architectural Technology podcast
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Celebrating the diversity of Architectural Technology, one episode at a time. Whether you're an AT, an industry collaborator, or just curious about how buildings really come together — you're in the right place.
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June 26, 2026
The Role of an Architectural Technologist as an Expert Witness with Harry Pangli FCIAT
<p>Welcome to Where it's AT | the Architectural Technology Podcast</p><p>In this episode, host Jon Clayton MCIAT speaks with Harry Pangli FCIAT about his journey into the world of construction disputes and Expert Witness work.</p><p>Harry shares insight into what it takes to investigate building failures, analyse evidence, and provide impartial expert opinions for courts and tribunals. Conversation also explores post-Grenfell regulation, AI in the built environment, and the skills that make great Architectural Technologists.</p><p>An insightful look at a specialist career path that combines technical expertise, investigation and problem-solving.</p><p>—</p><p>Harry Pangli FCIAT RIBA MCIArb SAAE</p><p>A Chartered Architectural Technologist and Architect with over 18 years of experience in the construction industry working on small domestic projects to large residential/commercial/industrial developments in the UK. Since early 2018, Harry has developed his career in the construction dispute sector of the construction industry now working for Expert Architect Limited. He is a Fellow of CIAT, a Member of the Chartered Institute of Arbitrators, and a Senior Associate of the Academy of Experts. In addition to his studies in Architecture, Harry has completed his MSc in Construction Law and Dispute Resolution and holds a GVC certificate as a commercial drone pilot. Harry represents CIAT on the CIC Liability Panel, CIC ADR Panel, and BSI committee for flexible sheets for waterproofing and water vapour control. In addition to representing CIAT on external panels, Harry also sits on the CIAT Liability Panel and is a member of the CIAT Principal Designer steering group.</p><p>—</p><p>00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro</p><p>00:40 A Week in the Life</p><p>01:49 Variety vs Practice Life</p><p>02:37 What Is an Expert Witness</p><p>03:25 Limits of Expertise</p><p>04:02 Document Review at Scale</p><p>05:05 From Review to Reports</p><p>05:26 Site Visits and Deconstruction</p><p>06:05 Explaining to the Court</p><p>06:59 Meetings and Oral Evidence</p><p>07:48 Retraining for Expert Work</p><p>08:23 Masters in Construction Law</p><p>09:29 Biggest Challenges</p><p>09:57 Handling Difficult People</p><p>11:38 Tailoring Communication</p><p>13:17 Industry Shifts and Safety Law</p><p>14:42 AI and Competence</p><p>19:08 What Makes a Great Architectural Technologist</p><p>20:53 Lifelong Learning in Architectural Technology</p><p>22:35 Gadgets, Takeaways, and Wrap</p><p>—</p><p>Your accumulated experience is what makes you valuable as an expert witness.</p><p>To operate effectively as an expert witness, you need a substantial body of professional experience to draw upon. You cannot provide a credible, independent opinion on matters you have never encountered in practice. Harry spent nearly two decades working across the construction industry before transitioning into dispute work. It is that depth of technical knowledge — built up over years of designing buildings, solving problems, and understanding construction — that gives your opinion weight in legal proceedings.</p><p>You must develop the ability to communicate across very different audiences.</p><p>Technical expertise alone will not carry you far if you cannot communicate it clearly and adaptively. You will need to translate complex building science into language that a judge, barrister, or layperson can follow. Equally, you will encounter difficult personalities on site — contractors who are hostile or defensive — and you will need to adjust your approach accordingly. Rather than meeting resistance with resistance, you should step back, consider the other person's perspective, and find a way to move the situation forward constructively.</p><p>You must commit to lifelong learning and approach new tools with a critical eye.</p><p>The built environment is constantly evolving — new materials, updated legislation, and emerging technologies mean that your education never truly ends. You should be regularly undertaking CPD and staying across industry changes. Harry also cautions that when it comes to AI, you must not simply accept what it produces without scrutiny. If you are not competent enough to check the output yourself, you risk putting your professional reputation — and potentially your clients — in a very difficult position.</p><p>—</p><p><u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/harry-pangli-fciat-riba-mciarb-saae-0a791862/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Connect with Harry Pangli on LinkedIn.</a></u></p><p>—</p><p>Know someone who could benefit from listening? Subscribe and share this episode with your network.</p><p>Know someone with a story to tell or a topic to explore? Email us at <u><a href="mailto:atpodcast@ciat.global" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">atpodcast@ciat.global</a></u> to nominate a guest or a topic.</p><p>Want to learn more about Architectural Technology, how to progress your career, or how to work with a Chartered AT? Head to <u><a href="http://architecturaltechnology.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">architecturaltechnology.com</a></u> to find out more</p><p>We welcome your feedback, so please keep in touch and email all feedback to <a href="mailto:atpodcast@ciat.global" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">atpodcast@ciat.global</a></p><p>—</p><p>Podcast recorded and edited by: <u><a href="https://jonclayton.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jon Clayton [Podcasting]</a></u></p><p>—</p><p>Disclaimer</p><p>The contents and views expressed by individuals in the Where it's AT podcast are their own, and do not necessarily represent the views of the companies they work for, or CIAT (the Host). This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as advice.</p><p>The episode transcript is AI-generated. Typos or incorrect words may still be present.</p>
April 24, 2026
Life After Uni with Charlotte Omo-Edoh ACIAT & Róisín Ní Chatháin FCIAT | 019
<p>Where it's AT | the Architectural Technology Podcast from CIAT</p><p>Life After Uni: Bridging the Gap Between Architectural Technology Education and Industry</p><p>Host Chartered Architectural Technologist Róisín Ní Chatháin FCIAT welcomes Charlotte Omo-Edoh ACIAT Architectural Technologist and founder of Life After Uni: Architecture, to discuss the difficult transition from university to industry. Charlotte explains that despite graduating with a first-class degree, she felt qualified but unprepared for the workplace; citing gaps in technical knowledge (building regulations, standards), confidence (using her voice), and understanding career pathways like Chartership. She describes how gatekeeping often stems from limited access, visibility, and transparency, especially around others’ journeys and struggles. Through her LinkedIn presence, webinars, and events like architecture walking tours, Charlotte talks of building a community helping early-career professionals move from confusion to clarity, confidence, direction.</p><p>We're here too! Come and chat with us at <u><a href="https://architecturaltechnology.com/login.html?_fr=9b82b0b1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CIAT</a></u>. Our <u><a href="https://architecturaltechnology.com/about/aspiration.html?_gl=1*1pixw0y*_up*MQ..*_ga*Mzg2MjQ1MDY5LjE3NzY4NDgwMTI.*_ga_TG2VLR4S4C*czE3NzY4NDgwMTEkbzEkZzEkdDE3NzY4NDgxNjYkajQkbDAkaDA." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">aspiration networks</a></u> have been established to aid you make all those career transitions easier, through guidance and support.</p><p>Still a student? <u><a href="https://architecturaltechnology.com/membership.html?_gl=1*1s5du4d*_up*MQ..*_ga*Mzg2MjQ1MDY5LjE3NzY4NDgwMTI.*_ga_TG2VLR4S4C*czE3NzY4NDgwMTEkbzEkZzEkdDE3NzY4NDgxMTAkajYwJGwwJGgw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Membership</a></u> is free to all students studying on one of our <u><a href="https://architecturaltechnology.com/learning.html?_gl=1*qe7y7x*_up*MQ..*_ga*Mzg2MjQ1MDY5LjE3NzY4NDgwMTI.*_ga_TG2VLR4S4C*czE3NzY4NDgwMTEkbzEkZzAkdDE3NzY4NDgwMTEkajYwJGwwJGgw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Accredited or Approved Programmes</a></u></p><p>—</p><p>Róisín Ní Chatháin FCIAT</p><p>Róisín Ní Chatháin is a Partner at BPTW, where she oversees the delivery of large-scale residential, mixed-use and regeneration projects. With a strong technical grounding through her Architectural Technology background and a collaborative approach, she leads design and consultant teams across both pre- and post-planning stages. Róisín is a Fellow of the Chartered Institute of Architectural Technologists and was named Chartered Architectural Technologist of the Year at the AT Awards in 2020. She was also awarded Alumni of the Year by Edinburgh Napier University in 2021, recognising her dedication to the profession and her ongoing support for the next generation through mentoring and advocacy. Alongside her professional work, Róisín is passionate about giving back, undertaking many voluntary roles in the CIAT, such as industry representative on accreditation boards, position of judge at the AT Awards and guest lecturing across a number of universities to help advance the next generation, as well as including her role as an ambassador for the Diaspora and Emigrants Centre in her hometown of Galway, Ireland.</p><p>—</p><p>Charlotte Omo-Edoh ACIAT</p><p>Charlotte Omo-Edoh is an Architectural Technologist, Founder of LAU:ARCH, Associate Member of Chartered Institute of Architectural Technologists (CIAT), and a member of the Next Generation Board at Berkeley Group. A First Class Birmingham City University graduate with 7+ years of experience across engineering, architecture, construction and project management. She uses her platform through LAU:ARCH to support the next generation and is passionate about helping emerging professionals build confidence, gain practical skills, navigate clear pathways and aid them to become valuable and competent professionals within the built environment industry.</p><p>—</p><p>00:00 Introduction</p><p>01:44 Why Life After Uni</p><p>04:31 Bridging the Gap Between Education & Practice</p><p>05:43 Confidence and Career Paths</p><p>07:27 Breaking Gatekeeping</p><p>09:42 Building Community</p><p>11:14 Questions and Fears</p><p>13:14 From Confusion to Clarity</p><p>15:40 What Unis and Employers Can Do</p><p>20:40 Vision and Next Steps</p><p>25:14 Final Takeaways</p><p>—</p><p>A degree prepares you to pass - not to practise.</p><p>You might graduate with a first-class degree and still feel lost on day one in industry. University teaches you to meet academic criteria, but it doesn't equip you with all the practical knowledge you'll need — building regulations, design standards, working with real clients and budgets, or navigating the workplace itself. Recognising that gap early means you can actively seek out the knowledge and support you need rather than assuming your qualification is enough.</p><p>Confidence and community are just as important as technical skills.</p><p>One of the biggest obstacles you'll face in early career isn't what you know — it's finding your voice. Feeling too inexperienced to speak up in meetings, too afraid to ask "obvious" questions, or unsure whether you belong — these are near-universal experiences. Surrounding yourself with a community of peers who share the same struggles helps you realise you're not alone, builds your confidence, and gives you a safe space to ask the questions you'd otherwise keep to yourself.</p><p>The first one to three years after graduation are the most critical.</p><p>That transition period from education to practice is where direction, clarity, and confidence are either built or lost. Rather than waiting until you're in the thick of it, you should start preparing whilst still at university — engage with professional bodies like CIAT, attend workshops, work on your CV and portfolio, and explore the wider industry. The earlier you build those foundations, the smoother your path into practice will be.</p><p>—</p><p>Know someone who could benefit from listening? Subscribe and share this episode with your network.</p><p>Know someone with a story to tell or a topic to explore? Email us at <u><a href="mailto:atpodcast@ciat.global" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">atpodcast@ciat.global</a></u> to nominate a guest or a topic.</p><p>Want to learn more about Architectural Technology, how to progress your career, or how to work with a Chartered AT? Head to <u><a href="http://architecturaltechnology.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">architecturaltechnology.com</a></u> to find out more</p><p>—</p><p>Podcast recorded and edited by: <u><a href="https://jonclayton.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jon Clayton [Podcasting]</a></u></p><p>—</p><p>Disclaimer</p><p>The contents and views expressed by individuals in the Where it's AT podcast are their own, and do not necessarily represent the views of the companies they work for or the Host. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as advice.</p>
March 27, 2026
Women In Architectural Technology with Ann Vanner FCIAT & Magdalena Blazusiak MCIAT | 018
<p>Welcome to Where it's AT | the Architectural Technology Podcast</p><p>Ann Vanner FCIAT speaks with Magdalena Blazusiak MCIAT, a Chartered Architectural Technologist, PhD researcher and lecturer at Robert Gordon University, about Women in AT, a free, inclusive community that connects, supports, and champions women in Architectural Technology. Magdelena describes the need for a safe space and shared voice in a male-dominated industry. They discuss barriers including limited understanding of what Architectural Technology offers, lack of tailored workplace support for progressing to Chartership (especially around maternity and non-linear career paths), loneliness (including from remote working), and the need for more structured support such as practical HR/legal guidance. They discuss values-led career development, allies (including men), and success defined by fulfillment and supportive community.</p><p><strong>Ann Vanner FCIAT</strong></p><p>Ann Vanner FCIAT is an accomplished Chartered Architectural Technologist, designer, and research consultant. She runs <a href="https://www.healingbuildings.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Healing Buildings,</a> a design practice and educational consultancy dedicated to integrating health and wellbeing into architectural practice. Ann is also the co-founder of <a href="https://www.theschoolofbiophilia.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The School of Biophilia</a>, an educational platform exploring the relationship between nature, learning, and the built environment. Working with communities, educators, and built environment professionals, Ann focuses on how nature-connected design can improve health, wellbeing, and environmental performance in the places people live, learn, and gather. As a Living Future Accredited professional and experienced academic, she combines practice, research, and education to advance more regenerative approaches to the built environment.</p><p><strong>Magdalena Blazusiak MCIAT</strong></p><p>Magdalena is a Chair of <a href="https://seda.scot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Scottish Ecological Design Association </a>(SEDA), an organisation promoting the design of communities, environments, projects, systems, services, materials and products which enhance the quality of life and are not harmful to living species and planetary ecology. She is a Chartered Architectural Technologist (MCIAT) with over a decade of industry experience, currently a lecturer and PhD researcher at the School of Architecture and Built Environment at Robert Gordon University. Magdalena’s main interests centre around psycho-social determinants of health in the context of housing and domestic retrofit, low-impact construction, bioeconomy strategy and understanding of relationships between people and the built environment. Having good understanding of the policy as well as the technical context of construction and retrofit of housing, she recently co-lead preliminary research on behalf of the Scottish Government on the Heat and Energy Efficiency Technical Suitability Assessment (HEETSA). Magdalena is a member of the Living Futures Institute, Straw Building UK and leads Women in Architectural Technology group in Scotland enabling discussions and co-designing solutions to inclusivity in the built environment industry.</p><p>—</p><p>00:00 Introduction</p><p>01:20 Meet Magdalena Blazusiak and Women in AT</p><p>02:12 What the Community Does</p><p>04:22 Why the Network Started</p><p>05:33 Three Gaps to Fix</p><p>07:16 Barriers and Misconceptions</p><p>09:17 Chartership and Maternity Leave</p><p>12:23 Friendships, Loneliness and WFH</p><p>15:48 How the Community Helps</p><p>16:59 Advice for Early Career Women</p><p>22:34 Success in Ten Years</p><p>25:24 Mens Role in the Conversation</p><p>30:15 Practical Support and HR Help</p><p>36:40 Start Earlier Schools and Uni</p><p>41:11 Pride in the Profession</p><p>42:28 Closing Thanks and Outro</p><p>—</p><p>Build a supportive community — don't go it alone</p><p>Women in Architectural Technology may find themselves as the only woman in the room. Having a community outside of work where you can share experiences, ask for advice, and sense-check situations makes a real difference. It helps fight loneliness, builds confidence, and gives you people who understand what you're going through.</p><p>Know your values and follow your passion</p><p>Architectural Technology can be whatever you make of it. Rather than sticking to a narrow job description, take time to work out what matters to you — your values, strengths, and interests. These act like a personal compass for your career. When you know what drives you, it's easier to spot opportunities and make choices that feel right.</p><p>The path doesn't have to be straight</p><p>Women often take sideways steps in their careers — whether because of life changes like having children, or simply following new interests. That's not a weakness. Those different experiences widen your view and make you stronger. Being open to a non-linear path, and getting the right support along the way (like help with chartership during maternity leave), can lead to a fulfilling career.</p><p>—</p><p>Know someone who could benefit from listening? Subscribe and share this episode with your network.</p><p>Know someone with a story to tell or a topic to explore? Email us at <u><a href="mailto:atpodcast@ciat.global" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">atpodcast@ciat.global</a></u> to nominate a guest or a topic.</p><p>Want to learn more about Architectural Technology, how to progress your career, or how to work with a Chartered AT? Head to <u><a href="http://architecturaltechnology.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">architecturaltechnology.com</a></u> to find out more</p><p>—</p><p>Podcast recorded and edited by: <u><a href="https://jonclayton.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jon Clayton [Podcasting]</a></u></p><p>—</p><p>Disclaimer</p><p>The contents and views expressed by individuals in the Where it's AT podcast are their own, and do not necessarily represent the views of the companies they work for or the Host. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as advice.</p>
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