In this episode, Cam and Michael talk about:
If there is still a point to making art
What value painting can bring to a world dominated by AI
Why narratives are important to art
Why some time periods are better for taking time to look at art than others
How COVID marks the end of the American Renaissance
The theme of Art in 2026: Escapism
If we are on the cusp of the death of humanity, then that means today marks the full potential of humanity
The theme of art in 2026: Identity Politics
Is society always exploring the most important thing?
The purpose of pursuing art for the sake of self-actualization
Escaping into art as a way to cope in times of uncertainty
Does culture shape art or does art shape culture?
Michael reflects on the current state of his painting practice
Using drugs to make art
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Find us on Instagram:
Cam: https://www.instagram.com/camclarke.art (https://www.instagram.com/camclarke.art)
Michael: https://www.instagram.com/mclbrsl (https://www.instagram.com/mclbrsl)
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4 Sept 2026
21 - Part 1: What Integrating with AI Means for the Future of Humanity
In this episode, Michael and Cam talk about:
- What Integrating with AI Means for the Future of Humanity
- The role of college universities in an AI world
- Are there ethical ways that companies can integrate AI into their work environment?
- Is it possible for people to collectively boycott AI?
- Will AI lead to human flourishing?
- What value can humans provide when AI can do everything?
- If I believe that AI is evil, and I believe that evil always loses, does that mean I shouldn’t buy AI stocks?
- The recent end of Human History, and the near end of Human Evolution
- 8 Hitlers
- Fat Americans on floating couches
- Wall-E is coming
- Why it’s bad that we don’t mind that we are captured by iPhones
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Find us on Instagram:
Cam: https://www.instagram.com/camclarke.art (https://www.instagram.com/camclarke.art)
Michael: https://www.instagram.com/mclbrsl (https://www.instagram.com/mclbrsl)
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24 Aug 2026
20 - Manipulative Haircut
In this episode, Cam and Michael talk about:
- the man working at the conveyer belt of words in Michael’s mind
- listening for the Good Coach
- why you should get a job that you hate
- why you shouldn’t get to know your neighbors
- the consequences of iPhones interrupting the continuity of our perception of reality
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Find us on Instagram:
Cam: https://www.instagram.com/camclarke.art (https://www.instagram.com/camclarke.art)
Michael: https://www.instagram.com/mclbrsl (https://www.instagram.com/mclbrsl)
Listen on YouTube/Spotify/Apple Podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/@WhileWaitingForPaintToDry?sub_confirmation=1 (https://www.youtube.com/@WhileWaitingForPaintToDry?sub_confirmation=1 https://open.spotify.com/show/7lq6750clP1nqxpmavg23X?si=618dad132aa74af3 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/while-waiting-for-paint-to-dry/id1851928489)
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