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WHOLE: The Podcast

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by Christabel Heasman-Cossins

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Achievement is healthiest and most sustainable when it is aligned with meaning, authenticity, values and psychological flexibility. WHOLE: The Podcast explores the stories and psychology behind sustained meaningful achievement, and how people continue evolving despite the inevitable challenges. Hosted by Christabel Heasman-Cossins (performer, presenter, coach and researcher), WHOLE looks beyond surface-level ideas of success to examine how people build meaningful careers, navigate challenge, and continue evolving across creative, professional and athletic fields. Through conversations with individuals from the arts, sport, media and beyond - alongside reflections grounded in academic perspectives on motivation, performance and the self - WHOLE: The Podcast explores what drives people not only to begin a path, but to sustain it. This podcast grew out of the WHOLE Framework - What, Honesty, Ownership, Living It and Evolution - which recognises meaning and purpose as central components of long-term wellbeing and fulfilment. Blending lived experience with psychological insight, WHOLE offers an honest look at the human realities behind achievement, creativity and longevity. To find out more about the WHOLE Framework head to wholecoaching.co.uk Follow on Social Media: @christabelsvoice

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Episode thumbnail for David Courtney: Discovering Leo Sayer, Writing Hits and Why Persistence Beats Talent

July 21, 2026

David Courtney: Discovering Leo Sayer, Writing Hits and Why Persistence Beats Talent

<p>David Courtney, the man who discovered Leo Sayer, wrote and produced Roger Daltry's first solo album and whose back catalogue of songs has sold over 34 million copies worldwide.</p><p>In this conversation we explore the extraordinary journey behind his career. From playing London's legendary Bag O'Nails club at just sixteen, to discovering Leo Sayer, writing Roger Daltrey's breakthrough solo hits, working with David Gilmour, and witnessing the greatest era of British music from the inside.</p><p>We also discuss:</p><p>• Songwriting and musical storytelling</p><p>• The evolution of music production</p><p>• AI and the future of creativity</p><p>• Why persistence matters more than talent</p><p>• Why success was never really about money</p><p>This episode is a must for anyone who is a fan of music and the art of songwriting, but also it is for anyone who needs to find that spark of genius within them.</p><p>If you suspect that success might be about something more than money, if you feel you are missing the final insight in your journey, or if you are looking for a wise voice to give you the encouragement you need, this episode is for you.</p><p>If you enjoy conversations about music, creativity and living a meaningful life, subscribe for more interviews with the people behind some of the world's greatest music.</p>

Episode thumbnail for Guy Pratt: Pink Floyd, Madonna, Michael Jackson & The Truth About a Life in Music

July 14, 2026

Guy Pratt: Pink Floyd, Madonna, Michael Jackson & The Truth About a Life in Music

<p>Guy Pratt is one of the world's most respected bass players, known for his work with Pink Floyd, David Gilmour, Madonna, Roxy Music and countless other legendary artists.</p><p>In this episode he reflects on the highs and lows of a life in music, the insecurity that never completely disappears, performing in front of 80,000 people, working with some of the biggest names in popular music, and why finding your own creative path matters more than chasing success.</p><p>We also talk about comedy, confidence, luck, family, creativity, Michael Jackson, Richard Branson, David Gilmour, and the advice Guy would give to anyone hoping to build a career in the arts.</p><p>An honest conversation about music, resilience, authenticity and what it really takes to sustain a creative life. </p><p><strong>Key takeaways</strong></p><ul><li>Why success doesn't eliminate self-doubt.</li><li>How Guy became Pink Floyd's bassist through an unexpected opportunity.</li><li>The importance of saying no to protect your values and relationships.</li><li>What it's really like performing in front of 80,000 people.</li><li>The surreal story of recording for Michael Jackson.</li><li>Why comedy made Guy a better musician.</li><li>How family shaped his journey into music.</li><li>The reality behind a decades-long career in the music industry.</li><li>Why finding your people is one of the most important steps in any creative career.</li><li>Guy's advice for anyone pursuing a life in music or the creative arts.</li></ul><br/><p></p><p>Mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Pink Floyd</li><li>Roxy Music</li><li>Madonna</li><li>Michael Jackson</li><li>Deep Purple</li><li>Dave Gilmour</li><li>The Smiths</li><li>Whitesnake</li><li>Nick Mason</li><li>Richard Branson</li><li>Virgin Records</li><li>Icehouse</li><li>Robbie Robertson</li><li>Nile Rodgers</li><li>Jeff Beck</li></ul><br/>

Episode thumbnail for The Art of Getting Go: How to Become the Real You

May 12, 2026

The Art of Getting Go: How to Become the Real You

<p>In this solo episode of WHOLE: The Podcast, Christabel Heasman-Cossins explores the psychology of honesty, identity and letting go — and shares the personal story that led to the creation of the WHOLE Framework.</p><p>What happens when the life you’ve built no longer feels aligned with who you are becoming?</p><p>Through reflections on performance, exhaustion, purpose, motivation and self-identity, this episode explores the tension between external success and meaningful living, and why so many people remain stuck in lives, careers or patterns they have quietly outgrown.</p><p>Christabel discusses:</p><ul><li>the fear of letting go of old identities</li><li>performative success and external validation</li><li>meaning, purpose and intrinsic motivation</li><li>why change can feel psychologically threatening</li><li>the importance of honesty and self-inquiry</li><li>how the WHOLE Framework was born</li></ul><br/><p>This episode is for anyone who feels stagnant, disconnected, creatively dulled or quietly aware that something in their life no longer fits.</p><p>The WHOLE Framework:</p><p>W — What</p><p>H — Honesty</p><p>O — Ownership</p><p>L — Live It</p><p>E — Evolution</p><p>Explore more:</p><p>wholeframework.com</p><p>Follow:</p><p>@christabelsvoice</p>

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What is WHOLE: The Podcast?

Achievement is healthiest and most sustainable when it is aligned with meaning, authenticity, values and psychological flexibility. WHOLE: The Podcast explores the stories and psychology behind sustained meaningful achievement, and how people continue evolving despite the inevitable challenges.

Hosted by Christabel Heasman-Cossins (performer, presenter, coach and researcher), WHOLE looks beyond surface-level ideas of success to examine how people build meaningful careers, navigate challenge, and continue evolving across creative, professional and athletic fields. Through conversations with individuals from the arts, sport, media and beyond - alongside reflections grounded in academic perspectives on motivation, performance and the self - WHOLE: The Podcast explores what drives people not only to begin a path, but to sustain it.

This podcast grew out of the WHOLE Framework - What, Honesty, Ownership, Living It and Evolution - which recognises meaning and purpose as central components of long-term wellbeing and fulfilment. Blending lived experience with psychological insight, WHOLE offers an honest look at the human realities behind achievement, creativity and longevity.

To find out more about the WHOLE Framework head to wholecoaching.co.uk Follow on Social Media: @christabelsvoice

How often does this podcast release new episodes?

This podcast updates daily.

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This podcast is available on 4 platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and more. You can also use the RSS feed directly.

Does this podcast accept guests?

Yes, this podcast regularly features guests.

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