If you have any form of Inclusion, Diversity and Belonging remit then this is the show for you. From thought-provoking conversations about parenting, gender stereotypes and racial inequality through to neurodiversity, sexuality and more, you’ll build your knowledge and get amazing advice from experts. To be the best in your field, you’ll need this latest thinking in Inclusion and Diversity so you can speak with enhanced confidence and credibility. Join Nadia Nagamootoo each month for inspiring conversations that you can use to accelerate your organisation’s journey towards inclusion.

Why Care?
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If you have any form of Inclusion, Diversity and Belonging remit then this is the show for you. From thought-provoking conversations about parenting, gender stereotypes and racial inequality through to neurodiversity, sexuality and more, you’ll build your knowledge and get amazing advice from experts. To be the best in your field, you’ll need this latest thinking in Inclusion and Diversity so you can speak with enhanced confidence and credibility. Join Nadia Nagamootoo each month for inspiring conversations that you can use to accelerate your organisation’s journey towards inclusion.
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July 13, 2026
64. Allyship As A Leadership Skill, with Lee Chambers
<p>In this episode of Why Care?, Nadia Nagamootoo is joined by Lee Chambers, founder and CEO of Male Allies UK, for a powerful conversation about allyship, masculinity, gender equality and the urgent need to move from division to dialogue.</p><p>Lee shares how serious illness, caregiving, fatherhood and his experience as a Black entrepreneur shaped his understanding of masculinity, purpose and impact. He explains why allyship is not an identity or ideology, but a set of practical skills that help people work across difference, build better relationships and create fairer systems.</p><p>Together, Nadia and Lee explore why inclusion can feel threatening to some men, how fear and scarcity fuel polarisation, and why boys need broader, healthier scripts for what it means to be male. They also discuss autism, justice sensitivity, the manosphere, the Festival of the Boy, the Voice of Boys research and the Stronger Together Summit.</p><p>This is a hopeful and practical episode about fairness, courage, curiosity and the role men can play in building workplaces and societies where everyone can thrive.</p><p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong>:</p><ul><li><p>Why allyship should be understood as a practical skill set, not a label or ideology.</p></li><li><p>How fear, scarcity and polarisation make inclusion work harder, but more important.</p></li><li><p>Why men often benefit personally from allyship through self-compassion, courage and stronger relationships.</p></li><li><p>How Lee’s illness, caregiving role and time in women-dominated spaces reshaped his view of masculinity.</p></li><li><p>Why boys are searching for a new script for masculinity, and how harmful online spaces exploit that need.</p></li><li><p>How organisations can engage men who see inclusion as a threat, distraction or something being “done to them”.</p></li><li><p>Why collaboration across difference can help workplaces move from gender division to gender dialogue.</p></li></ul><p><strong>Guest Bio</strong></p><p>Lee Chambers is the founder and CEO of Male Allies UK, supporting organisations to engage men in inclusion and promote effective allyship. After a diverse career spanning corporate finance and tech entrepreneurship, Lee now focuses on gender equality, allyship, masculinity and workplace inclusion.</p><p>He has been featured on the Startups 100 Index, received a Great British Entrepreneur Award, and sits on the board of CMI Women and Manchester Metropolitan University Business School. In 2024, he received the Freedom of the City of London for services to equality in business. He is also the 2023 UN Women Changemaker of the Year, an EDI Fellow at the University of East London, an ambassador for Working Families and 50:50 Parliament, and the author of Momentum: 13 Ways To Unlock Your Potential.</p><p><strong>Links Spotify</strong></p><ul><li><p><strong>Lee Chambers:</strong> <a href="https://www.maleallies.co.uk/lee-chambers/"><u>Website</u></a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/maleallyship"><u>Instagram</u></a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leechambers-1/"><u>LinkedIn</u></a> | Buy <a href="https://www.momentumbook.co.uk/"><u>Momentum: 13 Ways to Unlock Your Potential</u></a></p></li><li><p><strong>Nadia Nagamootoo:</strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nadia-nagamootoo"> </a><a href="https://www.nadianagamootoo.com/"><u>Website</u></a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nadia-nagamootoo"><u>LinkedIn</u></a> |<a href="https://www.instagram.com/nadianagamootoo"> <u>Instagram</u></a> | Buy <a href="https://practicalinspiration.com/book/beyond-discomfort"><u>Beyond Discomfort</u></a></p></li><li><p><strong>Avenir Consulting: </strong><a href="https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservices"><u>https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservices</u></a></p></li></ul><p>Produced by<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maurokenjiserra/"> <u>Mauro Kenji Serra</u></a>,<a href="https://www.kenjiproductions.com/"> <u>Kenji Productions</u></a></p>

June 22, 2026
63. How to Create Safer Cultures at Work and Beyond, with Jamie Klingler
<p>In this episode of Why Care?, Nadia Nagamootoo is joined by writer, broadcaster and campaigner Jamie Klingler for a conversation about accidental activism, women’s safety, police reform and the institutional failures that still leave women carrying the burden of risk. Jamie reflects on the moment Sarah Everard’s murder pushed her from behind-the-scenes media work into national campaigning, how Reclaim These Streets was formed at breakneck speed, and why the vigil and High Court fight became a turning point in the public conversation on violence against women and girls.</p><p>From there, the conversation widens into what has changed, what has not, and what leaders still fail to understand. Jamie speaks candidly about consent, male entitlement, the emotional toll of becoming a public voice on women’s safety, and why organisations cannot keep treating violence, harassment and misogyny as if they sit outside the workplace. The result is a powerful episode about courage, accountability and what it really takes to change culture rather than simply comment on it.</p><p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p><ul><li><p>The public conversation on violence against women has moved, but institutions still lag behind.</p></li><li><p>Consent education needs to go far beyond teaching girls how to say no.</p></li><li><p>Men who want to help often need practical, behaviour-based guidance rather than abstract reassurance that they are “one of the good ones”.</p></li><li><p>Organisations already know where the risks are. The issue is usually not awareness but whether leaders are willing to act early and decisively. </p></li></ul><p><strong>Guest Bio</strong></p><p>Jamie Klingler became an activist and campaigner for women's safety and police reform as one of the founders of Reclaim These Streets, an organisation that was created after Sarah Everard, was abducted, raped and murdered by a serving police officer. The organisation tried to hold a vigil for Sarah, but the Metropolitan Police said they weren’t allowed. In doing so and trying to silence them; Reclaim These Streets fought them in the High Court for violating their human right to assemble, and won. Jamie speaks on becoming an accidental activist and using her media and events expertise to create a real impact. </p><p>Her TEDx talk on How to Reclaim Your Life is here: <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/jamie_klingler_reclaim_yourself_the_most_valuable_investment_you_ll_make" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.ted.com/talks/jamie_klingler_reclaim_yourself_the_most_valuable_investment_you_ll_make</a></p><p><br><strong>Links </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Jamie:</strong> <a href="https://www.jamieklingler.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Website</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/photogirluk/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Instagram</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/photogirluk/:" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">LinkedIn</a> </li><li><strong>Nadia Nagamootoo:</strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nadia-nagamootoo" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"> </a><a href="https://www.nadianagamootoo.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Website</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nadia-nagamootoo" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">LinkedIn</a> |<a href="https://www.instagram.com/nadianagamootoo" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"> Instagram</a> | Buy <a href="https://practicalinspiration.com/book/beyond-discomfort" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Beyond Discomfort</a><strong></strong></li><li><strong>Avenir Consulting: </strong><a href="https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservices" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservices</a></li></ul><p>Produced by <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maurokenjiserra/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Mauro Kenji Serra</a>, <a href="https://www.kenjiproductions.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Kenji Productions</a></p>

June 1, 2026
62. Why High Performers Still Don’t Feel Good Enough, with Starling
<p>In this episode of Why Care?, Nadia Nagamootoo is joined by pop artist, Starling, for a conversation about self-worth, invisible adversity, ageism, loneliness and the courage to become who you really are. Starling shares how childhood trauma, industry gatekeeping and years of being told she was not enough shaped her early story, and how inner work, nervous system awareness and radical self-belief helped her rebuild it. Together, they explore the pressures of image, success and social media, why so many people still feel lonely and not good enough, and what it means to create work that heals rather than simply performs. It is a conversation about confidence, human connection and choosing yourself, again and again.</p><p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong>:</p><ul><li><p>Invisible adversity shapes confidence just as deeply as more visible forms of discrimination or exclusion.</p></li><li><p>You can build an identity that is both fully authentic and consciously created.</p></li><li><p>Success, followers and public recognition do not automatically heal not-enoughness.</p></li><li><p>Feeling safe in your body and nervous system changes the quality of your choices.</p></li><li><p>Self-improvement becomes healthier when it comes from self-respect rather than self-rejection.</p></li><li><p>Human connection remains one of the most powerful forms of healing. </p></li></ul><p><strong>Guest Bio</strong></p><p>Starling is a pop artist and speaker whose work sits at the intersection of music and personal transformation, a space her growing audience describes as “pop therapy”. Once told she could not sing, she has built her career by dismantling limitations and turning lived experience into songs about empowerment, resilience and possibility. Her music centres on one core idea: you are not what has happened to you, you are what you choose to become. Alongside millions of streams, major radio and press support, and sync placements including Love Island, Starling has also built a powerful platform around self-worth, creative empowerment and human connection, helping people rethink what they are capable of becoming.</p><p><strong>Links </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Starling:</strong> <a href="http://starlingsworld.com" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Website </a>| <a href="https://www.facebook.com/starlingsworld/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Facebook</a>|<a href="http://instagram.com/starlingsworld" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"> Instagram </a>| <a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/6IjadNLvsOWFr3jB0zs4c4" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Spotify </a>| <a href="https://music.apple.com/us/artist/starlingsworld/1005009884" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Apple Music</a> </li></ul><ul><li><strong>Nadia Nagamootoo:</strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nadia-nagamootoo" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"> </a><a href="https://www.nadianagamootoo.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Website</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nadia-nagamootoo" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">LinkedIn</a> |<a href="https://www.instagram.com/nadianagamootoo" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"> Instagram</a> | Buy <a href="https://practicalinspiration.com/book/beyond-discomfort" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Beyond Discomfort</a></li></ul><ul><li><strong>Avenir Consulting: </strong><a href="https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservices" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservices</a></li></ul><p>Produced by <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maurokenjiserra/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Mauro Kenji Serra</a>, <a href="https://www.kenjiproductions.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Kenji Productions</a></p>
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