2 Feb 2026
The Courage to Pause: Healing, Burnout, and Sacred Space with Sabrina
Sometimes the bravest thing we can do isn’t push harder—it’s slow down and admit we need help. And sometimes healing looks like letting life have a little more of us than our productivity does.
Before we even get into today’s conversation, I want to share something from the heart: after this episode, there’s going to be a little pause on the podcast. My oldest daughter is walking through some health things right now, and we’re taking a few trips to Mayo Clinic to get answers and clarity. This season is asking for more of my time, energy, and presence than usual—and I’m choosing to gently set this down for a moment so I can show up fully where I’m most needed.
And honestly… it feels fitting, because today’s guest is someone whose entire story is wrapped around restoration. Sabrina has always understood the power of gathering—not just bringing people into a room, but creating environments where people feel seen, safe, and deeply welcomed.
I got to experience that firsthand at one of her retreats this past fall, and I knew her heart aligned so beautifully with what we do here. Sabrina’s journey hasn’t been linear—there’s deep healing, a transformative encounter with Jesus, years of ministry and creative leadership—and a growing awareness that burnout can still find us even when we love what we’re called to do. That’s where Kaleo Retreats was born: a space rooted in wholeness—mind, body, and spirit—where women can finally exhale.
Key Themes + Takeaways
“This isn’t goodbye. It’s a pause.” Sometimes faith looks like slowing down and choosing what matters most in real time.
The thread has always been there. Sabrina’s gift for gathering didn’t appear out of nowhere—it started in childhood and kept showing up, season after season.
People-pleasing and worth get tangled early. We talked about how identity can quietly get wired to approval—and how hard it is to untangle as adults.
Surrender isn’t a one-time moment. It’s a rhythm. A re-surrender. Like forgiveness—again and again when life triggers the old grip.
Leadership can be lonely—and burnout is real. Even in ministry. Even in “good” callings. Especially when output becomes the measure of worth.
Kaleo is a place to breathe. A high-end, deeply intentional experience where women can “drop everything at the door” and remember who they are in God.
Our Favorite Quotes
“Taking a break from this podcast is not easy for me… This isn’t a goodbye. It’s a pause.”
“Sometimes the bravest thing we can do is slow down.”
“It’s a constant surrender. It’s a constant re-surrender over and over again.”
“It’s like a breath of fresh air… you get to drop everything at the door when you walk into that space.”
“God places people in our lives on purpose—especially in seasons where we need encouragement, rest, or clarity.”
Chapter Markers
00:00 — A gentle pause & choosing what matters
01:09 — Meet Sabrina: the gift of gathering & sacred space
06:00 — Childhood roots: the “sleepover house” and early identity
18:00 — Letting God lead: stepping back from force and control
36:25 — Testimony timelines: baptism, surrender, and “game on” faith
48:34 — Surrender as a practice (not a one-and-done moment)
59:02 — Kaleo: what women walk away knowing about themselves and God
Your Turn
This week’s reflection prompt: Where have you been gripping tighter—trying to control, fix, or carry something that was never yours to hold alone? And what would it look like to practice a re-surrender—not perfectly, just honestly?
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