The podcast of the Johannes Bugenhagen Liturgical Institute. The JBLI exists within the Evangelical Lutheran Synod as an organization that seeks to encourage excellence in worship by providing to the pastors and congregations of the synod theological, historical, and musical resources that promote the best elements of the orthodox heritage of liturgy and hymnody that has come down to us, through the Lutheran tradition in general and through the tradition of the old Norwegian Synod in particular. Learn more at our website, https://bugenhagen.institute/
012. Luther's German Mass | Interview with Dr. Daniel Baker
In this episode of With Reverence and Awe, Pastor Rob Lawson and Dr. Daniel Baker discuss Luther's German Mass, the Deutsche Messe of 1526, and its influence and impact on Lutheran worship in the 16th and 17th centuries down to today.
Dr. Baker serves as Kantor for Return to Wittenberg. Learn more about Return to Wittenberg (https://www.returntowittenberg.org/) and their Reformation Day service (https://www.returntowittenberg.org/r2w-2026-conference/).
Learn more about the Bugenhagen Institute (https://bugenhagen.institute/).
Pastor Robert Lawson serves Bethany Lutheran Church, The Dalles, OR, and Concordia Lutheran Church, Hood River, OR (https://gorgelutherans.com/).
Produced by Pastor Caleb Strutz, who serves Resurrection Lutheran Church, Winter Haven, FL (https://resurrectionwinterhaven.church/), and Our Savior Lutheran Church, Lakeland, FL (https://oursaviorlakeland.church/).
21 Aug 2026
011. The First American Lutheran Liturgy
Pastors Rob Lawson and Caleb Strutz discuss the Church Agenda of 1748 and the impact and legacy of Henry Melchior Muhlenberg as we celebrate the 250th anniversary of our nation's founding.
Learn more about the work of the Institute on our website:
https://bugenhagen.institute/
Link to the full Agenda:
https://www.wv-wmd.org/worship/liturgies/HMM-HEJacobs-full.pdf
Link to Pastor Strutz' service folder:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UbkjEz-GztGC6qGI0yo2mbTQDkUIrrZuZSdYI6Ms4kM/edit?usp=sharing
Pastor Rob Lawson serves Bethany Lutheran Church, The Dalles, OR, and Concordia Lutheran Church, Hood River, OR.
https://gorgelutherans.com/
Pastor Caleb Strutz serves Resurrection Lutheran Church, Winter Haven, FL, and Our Savior Lutheran Church, Lakeland, FL.
https://resurrectionwinterhaven.church/
https://oursaviorlakeland.church/
30 Sept 2025
010. The Kirk Effect
Pastor Caleb Strutz and Jeremy Aiello discuss the "Kirk Effect," and in the wake of Charlie Kirk's tragic assassination explore the claim that there is now a spiritual revival taking place in America, and a renewed interest in the Christian faith especially on the part of young people.
30 Jul 2025
009. The Divine Service in Confessional Lutheranism | Interview with Jay Webber
Pastor Jay Webber discusses his new book, The Divine Service in Confessional Lutheranism and in the Evangelical Lutheran Synod, with Pastor Robert Lawson.
For a free PDF of the book, or for a link to purchase a hard copy from Lulu, visit this page in the JBLI website:
bugenhagen.institute/essays-studies-and-other-resources
17 May 2025
008. Why Am I a Lutheran?
An interview with Tony Verkinnes and Jeremy Aiello, who each authored an article in this issue of the Lutheran Sentinel magazine, the theme of which is "Why Am I a Lutheran?":
https://issuu.com/lutheransentinel/docs/lutheran_sentinel_march-april_2024
9 Apr 2025
007. Chanting
A conversation with Pastors Robert Lawson, Jay Webber, and Paul Webber, on the history, purpose, and techniques of pastoral chanting in the Divine Service.
18 Jan 2025
006. The Lutheran Way to Be Catholic
A recording of a presentation made by Pastor Jay Webber on January 14, 2025, at Bethany Lutheran College in Mankato, Minnesota, as a part of the “In Depth” lecture series sponsored by the college chapel. The subject is Martin Luther’s intentional conservatism in his reform of the medieval mass. The handout that was used in this presentation can be downloaded from the “Essays” page of the Bugenhagen Institute website: bugenhagen.institute/essays-studies-and-other-resources/
16 Nov 2024
005. Preparation of The Lutheran Hymnal | Interview with Elisabeth Urtel
Pastor Jay Webber and Elisabeth Urtel discuss her doctoral research on the preparation of The Lutheran Hymnal of 1941.
Elisabeth's book, Anna B. Hoppe: Her Life and Hymnody, can be purchased here:
https://www.amazon.com/Hoppe-Shaping-American-Lutheran-Church/dp/1942304331
26 Oct 2024
004. From Evangelicalism to Lutheranism | Interview with Jeremy Aiello
Pastors Jay Webber and Robert Lawson interview Jeremy Aiello, a convert to Confessional Lutheranism from American Evangelicalism, and a member of St. John's Lutheran Church in Frankenmuth, Michigan (ELS).
Jeremy's book, Beneficial?: Considering the Contemporary Worship Movement, can be purchased here:
https://www.amazon.com/Beneficial-Considering-Contemporary-Worship-Movement/dp/1520302754
6 Sept 2024
003. The Work of our Worship Committee | Interview with Peter Faugstad
Pastors Jay Webber and Robert Lawson interview Pastor Peter Faugstad, chairman of the Evangelical Lutheran Synod Committee on Worship.
Visit the Committee on Worship webpage in the synod website:
https://els.org/worship/
28 Aug 2024
002. Evangelical Lutheran Breviary | Interview with Caleb Strutz
Pastor Robert Lawson interviews Vicar Caleb Strutz, editor of the recently-published Evangelical Lutheran Breviary.
More information is available at:
https://bugenhagen.institute/elb/
15 Aug 2024
001. Introduction to the JBLI
The inaugural podcast of the Johannes Bugenhagen Liturgical Institute. Pastors Jay Webber and Robert Lawson talk about the purpose of the Institute, and about their own personal "liturgical" journeys.
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