WomenAizer is a podcast and media initiative dedicated to highlighting the voices, stories, and impact of women working at the intersection of artificial intelligence and fundamental rights. By bridging cutting-edge scholarship with accessible, inspiring conversations, we amplify women shaping critical debates on AI, law, and governance exploring how innovation and rights can move forward together.
Dive with Frédérique Boulanger and Yamina Bouadi into inspiring conversations with women experts in AI, law and emerging technologies, shaping the future of our digital society!
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Lex Talk - Ep. 1: Marine Placca - Le dialogue entre chercheurs et société civile pour relever les défis de l’IA
Dans cet épisode, nous recevons Marine Placca pour explorer le rôle de la recherche en droit dans la régulation de l’intelligence artificielle. À travers le club RESAIA (Régulation et sécurité de l'IA) (https://www.univ-lorraine.fr/osezlarecherche/?les_clubs=club-resaia), qu’elle codirige, nous échangeons sur le dialogue entre la recherche et avec la société civile, tout en questionnant les récits de la « course à l’IA » et les discours sur ses risques. Une discussion pour prendre du recul et réfléchir ensemble aux choix qui façonnent la place de l’IA dans nos sociétés.
Timeline :
00:00 - 03:02 Introduction du profil de Marine Placca et de ses thèmes de recherche
03:03 - 04:30 Son opinion sur le rôle des juristes dans/face à l'environnement numérique
04:30 - 05:05 Origine de l'interdisciplinarité de la recherche de Marine
05:05 - 11:02 Présentation du club RESAIA et de la combinaison du droit et de la cybersécurité (disciplines des co-fondateurs du club) pour appréhender la régulation et la sécurité de l'IA
11:02 - 12:30 Le dialogue entre le club RESAIA et la société civile
12:30 - 24:45 La démystification des narratifs de la course à l'IA et du risque de l'IA
24:45 - 26:30 Exemples concrets des activités du club RESAIA
26:30 - 29:25 L'effort de vulgarisation scientifique auprès de la société civile et la confrontation des idées
29:25 - 31:25 Explication du Prix femmes de l'IA (catégorie recherche)
31:25 - 33:45 Questions signatures
33:45 - 36:10 Conclusion de l'épisode
Références citées dans l'épisode :
EU Commission Code of Practice for General-Purpose AI Models, Safety and Security Chapter (https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/dae/redirection/document/118119)
To learn more about this code of practice: dedicated EU Commission page (https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/contents-code-gpai)
Prix femmes de l'IA du West Data Festival (https://www.westdatafestival.fr/prix-femmes-de-ia/) lancé par Laval Mayenne Technopole
Catherine Regis, chaire sur la diplomatie scientifique de l'IA (https://nouvelles.umontreal.ca/article/2025/10/08/catherine-regis-devient-titulaire-d-une-chaire-sur-la-diplomatie-scientifique-et-l-ia), Université de Montreal
Asma Mhalla, Technopolitique, Comment la technologie fait de nous des soldats ?, Seuil, 2024.
Pour en savoir plus sur le club RESAIA et ses activités :
Site internet (https://www.univ-lorraine.fr/osezlarecherche/?les_clubs=club-resaia)
Page instagram (https://www.instagram.com/resaia_club_orion/)
Profil Linkedin de Marine Placca (https://www.linkedin.com/in/marine-placca-49170a255/)
Merci à vous toutes et tous de votre précieux temps d'écoute !
Nous nous retrouvons au prochain épisode de WomenAizer Podcast :)
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27 Sept 2026
Episode 5 : In discussion with Kalliopi Terzidou - From Courtrooms to Chatbots: Can AI Close the Justice Gap?
Episode 5: In Discussion with Kalliopi Terzidou – From Courtrooms to Chatbots: Can AI Close the Justice Gap?
As generative AI continues to reshape the legal landscape, fundamental questions arise about its impact on access to justice, legal practice, and the administration of justice itself.
In this episode, Frédérique Boulanger had the pleasure of speaking with Kalliopi Terzidou about some of the most pressing legal and ethical challenges surrounding the use of AI in the justice sector.
The discussion explores:
⚖️ The use of Large Language Models (LLMs) in the administration of justice and judicial processes
⚖️ The implications of AI for the right to a fair trial and procedural safeguards
⚖️ The management, publication, and pseudonymization of judicial decisions in an increasingly digital legal ecosystem
⚖️ The growing adoption of generative AI tools by legal professionals and the opportunities and risks they create
⚖️ The interaction between AI systems, business secrecy, legal privilege, and broader confidentiality obligations
As courts, law firms, and legal institutions navigate rapid technological change, striking the right balance between innovation, efficiency, transparency, and fundamental rights remains a critical challenge.
Part I: Background & Research Interests (02:48 - 11:44)
Part II: The Digitalization of Justice - The Right to a Fair Trial & Access to Judicial Decisions (11:45 - 20:54)
Part III: GenAI used by legal professionals (20:55 - 35:54)
Part IV: Signature Question (35:55 - 39:27)
The information and views set out in this episode are those of the author (Kalliopi Terzidou) and do not necessarily reflect the official opinion of the European Commission.
🎧 Listen now and join the conversation on the future of justice in the age of generative AI.
#GenerativeAI #LegalTech #AccessToJustice #ArtificialIntelligence #Lawyers #Courts #RuleOfLaw #FairTrial #Confidentiality #TradeSecrets #DataGovernance #Justice #LLM #LegalInnovation
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18 Jun 2026
Episode 4: In discussion with Marie Geny - Health Sensors Under the M(A)icroscope
Background and Research Interests (00:00 - 10:20)
IT Perspectives - Understanding the legal consequences (10:21 - 20:37)
Legal Perspectives (20:38 - 31:40)
On health censors and health liabilities (31:41 - 39:03)
Signature questions (39:04 - 40:00)
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15 May 2026
Episode 3: In discussion with Salomé Lannier (part 2) - AI-based detection of human exploitation
🎙️Episode 3: Continued Dialogue with Salomé Lannier – AI-Based Detection of Human Exploitation
We had so much to talk about that our conversation had to be split in two episodes 🫶
What you will find in this episode:
👩🎓AI Act & DSA: Legal Boundaries and Responsibilities. The AI Act sets regulatory limits for artificial intelligence, while the Digital Services Act ensures platforms are accountable for online content and its societal impacts.
Interculturality: Sex Work vs Human Trafficking. Distinguishing sex work from trafficking requires precise legal definitions and sensitivity to cultural contexts.
👩💻GDPR, AI Act & Online Content. GDPR and the AI Act together protect personal data and regulate AI-driven systems on digital platforms.
Public-Private Collaboration. Effective legal protection against exploitation demands enhanced cooperation between public and private sectors.
⛔Victim Treatment: Non-Punishment & Consent. Upholding the principle of non-punishment and recognising consent complexities are essential for victim-centred justice.
Timeline
Legal perspectives follow-up
0:34 - 1:35 The limitation of the AI Act - the DSA as addressing the consequences.
1:41 - 2:55 Interculturality - how sex work and human trafficking differ.
3:07 - 4:11 Liability and decisions taken by the deployer.
4:35 - 8:09 The GDPR and AI Act and the multiple purposes in the scope of online content - the legal framework in the context of the online platforms.
8:20 - 11:13 The question of implementing more protection and collaboration between public-private actors ?
11:41 - 13:28 The treatment of victims - principle of non punishment for human trafficking victims & consent.
Technical perspectives
13:56 - 18:31 The technical issues - human over the loop - research transparency.
18:32 - 21:52 The “positioning” concept.
21:53 - 24:52 Remediation of discrimination, biases - “the women question”.
25: 00 - 28:58 Ex post control over the AI system - overblocking/underblocking concepts.
29:18 - 32:51 Explainability of AI system - automated decisions in this context of human exploitation - right of explainability.
33:07 - 36:00 Legal remedy/technical remedy if the AI is not high risk - deep fakes.
36:03 - 39:00 Implementing collaboration & ethics to address those issues - digital literacy.
Signature questions
39:57 - 41:29 What female figures inspired your research?
41: 38 - 42:45 What key advice would you give to women exploring the world of AI and Law?
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14 Apr 2026
Episode 2: In discussion with Salomé Lannier (part 1) - AI-based detection of human exploitation
Episode 2: In discussion with Salomé Lannier - AI-based detection of human exploitation
Introduction: 00:00 - 01:46
Salomé Lannier's presentation: 01:46 - 02:46
Her research background and interests: 02:47 - 07:57
PROTEX project (Protect against exploitation): 07:58 - 10:35
The necessity of interdisciplinary and comparative perspectives: 10:36 - 23:20
Practical challenges of supervision by authorities and platforms: 23:20 - 28:50
Tech perspective: AI tools detecting human trafficking: 28:51 - 35:01
EU AI Act applicability to these tools and the consequences on "potential" victims of exploitation: 35:01 - 43:23
What about the AI-based tools used by the platforms? The answer is in the next episode, stay tuned :)
In this episode, we welcomed Salomé Lannier, Postdoctoral Researcher at the University of Luxembourg, whose work takes part at the intersection of criminal law, digital regulation, and human exploitation.
Drawing on her research and the PROTEX project (https://lnkd.in/d-mW4ujb (https://lnkd.in/d-mW4ujb)), this conversation explores one of the most complex challenges in today’s digital landscape: how AI systems are used to detect human trafficking and the legal and ethical risks they raise.
From the absence of a clear legal definition of “exploitation” to the growing use of algorithmic tools by law enforcement and platforms, the episode highlights a critical tension: tools designed to protect can also misidentify, discriminate, or even harm the very individuals they aim to support.
We discuss the use of AI in detecting online sexual exploitation, the risks of biased or opaque data labelling. The second part of our discussion with Salomé, in which we discuss on the blurred abilities of platforms and law enforcement and limits of existing legal frameworks, will follow in next episode, stay tuned.
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6 Mar 2026
Episode 1: In discussion with Niovi Vavoula - When migration meets tech
In this first episode of WomenAizer, we explore the intersection of artificial intelligence, migration governance, and fundamental rights with Niovi Vavoula.
Drawing on her extensive research on EU migration law and digital surveillance, the conversation examines how algorithmic profiling, automated decision-making, and interoperable large-scale IT systems are transforming border management across Europe. We discuss the evolution of EU surveillance law, the role of the Court of Justice of the European Union in shaping judicial benchmarks, and the increasing reliance on data-driven tools in systems such as ETIAS and VIS.
The episode also addresses the implications of the newly adopted AI Act, the limits of the GDPR, and the persistent difficulty of ensuring meaningful remedies for individuals affected by automated decision-making. As migration governance becomes increasingly digital, questions of vulnerability, accountability, and data protection move to the forefront of legal debate.
At its core, this conversation asks a critical question: how can the European Union reconcile its security objectives with its commitment to fundamental rights in an era of AI-driven border governance?
Introduction: 00:00 - 01:34
Niovi Vavoula's background: 01:35 - 14:10
Legal perspectives: 14:11 - 33:00
Technological perspectives: 33:01 - 48:07
Signature questions: 48:08 - 51:49
Selected References:
Vavoula, N. (2021). Artificial Intelligence at Schengen Borders: Automated Processing, Algorithmic Profiling and Facial Recognition in the Era of Techno-Solutionism. European Journal of Migration and Law.
Vavoula, N. (2022). Immigration and Privacy in the Law of the European Union. Brill Nijhoff.
Vavoula, N. (2023). Data Retention and the Future of Large-Scale Surveillance: The Evolution and Contestation of Judicial Benchmarks. European Law Journal.
Vavoula, N. (2023). (Discriminatory) Algorithmic Profiling and Ineffective Remedies: The Cases of ETIAS and VIS. ASYL.
Vavoula, N. (2024). Algorithmic Accountability Through the “Human over the Loop” in Interoperable and AI-Reliant EU Large-Scale IT Systems. European Papers.
Vavoula, N. (2024). The Tr-AI-nsformation of EU Migration, Asylum and Border Management. Computer Law & Security Review.
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