
WTF is Finance
Claim This Podcastby Nikhil Kamath
Podcast Overview
<p>Nikhil Kamath explores global finance trends, macroeconomics, and business finance through in-depth conversations with friends, industry experts, and thought leaders.</p>
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9/4/2025
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Recent Episodes

May 4, 2026
Howard Marks On Why Most Investors Lose, AI Bubbles & India | Nikhil Kamath | WTF is Finance
<p>I sat down with Howard Marks, the co-founder of Oaktree and the man who has been writing the memos every serious investor on earth opens first for over thirty years, and what was supposed to be a conversation about debt and cycles became a conversation about how anyone gets above-average at anything in a world where everyone smart is already trying. We covered why he picked bonds over stocks for an entire career and got rich doing the opposite of what everyone wanted to do, why the S&P returns 10% a year but almost never between 8 and 12, why he changed his mind on AI after a single conversation with Claude, what AI can't do that great investors still can, why he thinks India's biggest export business sits in the crosshairs of AI, and where the $10 bill nobody has picked up is hiding right now.</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 Introduction</p><p>02:05 From Queens to Wharton beginnings</p><p>08:10 Mujo and independence of events</p><p>15:17 Why cycles exist in markets</p><p>22:09 Pandemic, recessions, and recovery age</p><p>28:38 Where we are today</p><p>36:08 Drifting versus seeing the river</p><p>42:57 Oak Tree and accidental entrepreneurship</p><p>49:45 Why bonds over equities</p><p>57:14 Distressed bonds and excess returns</p><p>1:05:36 Beginning a new career today</p><p>1:12:42 Active management versus indexation</p><p>1:20:08 Learning from Andrew, second level thinking</p><p>1:27:25 How to become contrarian and better</p><p>1:34:28 Learning from history, final advice</p><p><br></p><p>#Nikhil Kamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</p><p>Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><ul><li>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>#HowardMarks Co-founder and co-chairman of Oaktree Capital Management</p><ul><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/howardmarksbook/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/howardmarksbook/</a></li><li>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/HowardMarksBook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/HowardMarksBook</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>

May 1, 2026
Howard Marks: "I Changed My Mind On AI" | Ep. Trailer | WTF is Finance
<p>Howard Marks runs the largest distressed debt firm in the world, has been writing the memos that Warren Buffett opens first for over thirty years, and just changed his mind on AI after a single conversation with Claude — we got into who's going to make the most money in investing over the next ten years, why he picked debt over equity for an entire career, why the S&P returns 10% on average but almost never between 8 and 12, and where the $10 bill nobody's picked up is sitting right now.</p><p>#nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</p><p>Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app</a></p><p>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p>#HowardMarks Co-founder and co-chairman of Oaktree Capital Management</p><p>LinkedIN- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/howardmarksbook/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/howardmarksbook/</a></p><p>Twitter - <a href="https://x.com/HowardMarksBook" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/HowardMarksBook</a></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>

December 20, 2025
WTF Is Wealth? Ray Dalio Breaks It Down w/ Nikhil Kamath | WTF is Finance Ep 2
<p>Wealth can be created easily — but that doesn’t mean it’s real. In WTF is Finance, Ray Dalio explains how money actually works, why asset bubbles form, and how investors should build portfolios that survive cycles, debt, and political change. </p><p><br></p><p>00:00 – Ray Dalio’s early life & first exposure to markets </p><p>04:55 – Why early wins hook people into trading </p><p>07:20 – Leverage, futures & learning risk the hard way </p><p>08:45 – Nixon ending the gold standard & why it mattered </p><p>11:25 – What money really is (store value vs medium of exchange) </p><p>15:00 – The interest-rate trap: promises vs real money </p><p>18:00 – How Ray compares assets, liquidity & leverage </p><p>21:48 – Portfolio construction if you can’t beat the market </p><p>24:21 – Bitcoin, stablecoins & why Ray remains cautious </p><p>26:40 – What actually counts as a store of wealth (beyond gold & crypto) </p><p>28:41 – Real estate, taxation & why immovable assets are easy to tax </p><p>30:44 – Learning by proximity: the modern version of “being a caddy” </p><p>34:22 – Prediction markets: speculation vs hedging </p><p>36:02 – Wealth vs money: how bubbles are created </p><p>41:32 – The 5 big forces that drive economies & markets </p><p>45:39 – How young Indians should actually “play the money game” </p><p>50:00 – What makes a successful trader or investor psychologically </p><p>52:43 – Curiosity, cause–effect thinking & building an edge </p><p>55:00 – Ray Dalio on legacy, Community & passing knowledge forward </p><p>59:50 – Leadership lessons from China, UAE & global powers </p><p>1:05:02 – China vs US vs India: understanding the new world order</p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath Entrepreneur & Investor Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a> </li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app</a> </li><li>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a> </li></ul><p><br></p><p>#RayDalio American Hedge Fund Manager</p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/raydalio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/raydalio</a> </li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/raydalio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/raydalio/</a> </li><li>Linkedin: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/raydalio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/raydalio</a> </li><li>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/raydalio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/raydalio/</a> </li></ul><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5T1uhRS." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://open.spotify.com/show/5T1uhRS.</a>..</p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/435Ybgm." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://open.spotify.com/show/435Ybgm.</a>..</p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3BQFvdH." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://open.spotify.com/show/3BQFvdH.</a>.. </p><p><br></p><p>#PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>
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