Yes Girls Podcast
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<p>Yes Girls Podcast is Africa's first experiential growth media brand, designed as a structured, documented public laboratory for personal development.</p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent;">For the ambitious, the curious, and those unwilling to live on autopilot, this audio-first podcast explores what it truly takes to evolve through lifelong learning, self-discovery, and a growth mindset, grounded not just in theory, but in practice.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent;">Every bi-weekly episode is either a Yespisode (beginning with a Yes Challenge) or a Yesticle (beginning with a real-world challenge), built to stretch comfort zones and expand capability. Award-winning hosts Akumu Fiona and Claire Baker document the process on record.</span></p><p><br></p><p>Tune in and start practising the kind of courage that turns curiosity into transformation. Then keep saying YES. Follow on all platforms: @yesgirlspodcast</p>
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June 1, 2026
88. Are we forgetting how to think? What AI reveals about being human w/ Leon Apungu
<p>Answers have never been this easy to find. A question that once required research, reflection, or a conversation can now be answered in seconds.</p><p><br></p><p>But as artificial intelligence becomes part of everyday life, a deeper question begins to emerge: What should humans do before outsourcing thinking to machines?</p><p><br></p><p>This is Season 9, and its theme is: Back to Basics; exploring the systems, habits, and assumptions that quietly shape how we live. </p><p><br></p><p>In this Yespisode, Akumu and Claire turn their attention to one of the most talked-about technologies of our time, and not to ask whether AI is good or bad, but to explore what it reveals about us (us meaning "humans" in case you're wondering).</p><p><br></p><p>Joined by AI and technology pioneer Leon Apungu, this conversation examines the relationship between artificial intelligence, human judgment, and self-trust. Together, they explore why fast answers can feel so convincing, what happens when we rely too heavily on automated thinking, and where human responsibility must remain firmly in the loop.</p><p><br></p><p>Through a series of live experiments, the Yes Girls compare their own thinking with the responses generated by an AI chatbot, exploring decision-making, critical thinking, uncertainty, and the uncomfortable but important role of waiting for clarity and sitting in uncertainty.</p><p><br></p><p>They also unpack the difference between information and wisdom, confidence and understanding, speed and judgment, while asking this simple question: Just because a machine can answer, does that mean it should decide?</p><p><br></p><p>This episode is thoughtful, playful, and deeply relevant for anyone trying to navigate an increasingly automated world without losing sight of what makes us human. You will leave wondering whether you are more like Claire, or more like Akumu when it comes to AI. Listen in to find out.</p><p><br></p><p>___</p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent;">Timestamps to Specific Segments:</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent;">(0:00) Intro</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent;">(03:01) Meet Leon Apungu and his thoughts on AI's dangers and possibilities</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent;">(07:28) The Yes Challenge: Testing AI's career advice against human judgement</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent;">(16:20) Why AI's Advice misses personal context and emotion</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent;">(20:16) How to get better AI chatbot results</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent;">(25:14) Leon's thoughts human judgement & AI's effect on critical thinking</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent;">(34:41) Introvert vs. extrovert use of AI & Leon's 3 tips for responsible AI use</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent;">(48:03) The frustration of speed and easily recognisable AI-generated content</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent;">(58:30) Leon's visions for AI's transformative future: humanoids, neuralink etc.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent;">(01:04:08) What has Leon recently said "Yes" to?</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent;">(01:04:55) Outro</span></p><p>___</p><p><br></p><p>You will connect with this episode if:</p><p>• You use AI tools in your daily life or work.</p><p>• You have ever wondered whether technology is changing the way we think.</p><p>• You are interested in human decision-making, judgment, and self-trust.</p><p>• You want a more balanced conversation about AI: one without fear or hype.</p><p><br></p><p>It is quite ironic to have two millennials, whose childhoods were relatively technology-sparse, sitting down for a chat with a Gen Z digital native. Yet, this is precisely the type of dialogue we need more of, especially given the frequent friction between these two generations in the professional world.</p><p><br></p><p>Listen in, then drop us a comment or DM with your thoughts.</p><p>_____________</p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">Important resources:</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">Follow Leon Apungu on LinkedIn here: </span></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leon-apungu-a53b3829a/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/leon-apungu-a53b3829a/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Learn more about AI Central here:</p><p><a href="https://www.aicentral.africa/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aicentral.africa/</a></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent;">_____________</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 47, 54); background-color: transparent;">If you enjoy the podcast, we love you! And we'd like to ask you to </span><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2yAqJtkJnlXJ23Z5A229hR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); background-color: transparent;">rate us on Spotify</a><span style="color: rgb(41, 47, 54); background-color: transparent;"> - it will only take a couple of seconds, we promise! </span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 47, 54); background-color: transparent;">If you listen to us on Apple Podcasts, please take a moment to</span><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-yes-girls/id1560933330" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); background-color: transparent;"> </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-yes-girls/id1560933330" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(80, 0, 185); background-color: transparent;">leave a brief review</a><span style="color: rgb(41, 47, 54); background-color: transparent;">. We promise it will take less than a minute unless, of course, you have more to say. In any case, we appreciate you!</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 47, 54); background-color: transparent;">Thanks in advance!</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 47, 54); background-color: transparent;">_____________________</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent;">For video logs, visit </span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@yesgirlspodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.youtube.com/@yesgirlspodcast</a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);"> </span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 47, 54); background-color: transparent;">For blogs, visit</span><a href="https://yesgirlspodcast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(41, 47, 54); background-color: transparent;"> </a><a href="https://yesgirlspodcast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); background-color: transparent;">https://yesgirlspodcast.com/</a><span style="color: rgb(41, 47, 54); background-color: transparent;"> </span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 47, 54); background-color: transparent;">Feel free to follow us across these platforms:</span></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/yesgirlspodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); background-color: transparent;">INSTAGRAM</a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;"> </span></p><p><a href="https://www.twitter.com/yesgirlspodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); background-color: transparent;">TWITTER</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/yesgirlspodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); background-color: transparent;">LINKEDIN</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@yesgirlspodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent;">TIKTOK</a></p>
May 16, 2026
87. How grief changes the way you see everything w/ Rose Gichure
<p>Grief has a strange way of changing what feels important. Things that once felt urgent suddenly become noise, routines stop making much sense, and priorities slowly rearrange themselves. Without warning, life strips everything back.</p><p><br></p><p>This is Season 9, and for it, the Yes Girls are going *Back to Basics*, exploring the systems, habits, and assumptions that quietly shape how we live. But some lessons about what truly matters do not arrive through self-improvement or intention. Sometimes, they arrive through loss.</p><p><br></p><p>In this deeply reflective episode, Akumu and Claire sit down with Rose Gichure, a grief coach and the host of the Grief Angels Podcast, a space dedicated to helping people navigate grief with greater honesty, openness, and compassion.</p><p><br></p><p>Together, they explore the disorienting experience of life no longer fitting the way it once did, and how grief can reshape identity, relationships, perspective, and what truly matters.</p><p><br></p><p>The conversation moves through the pressure to "move on" (which Rose explains is the wrong phrase entirely), the way loss changes our relationship with time and productivity, and the role of love, support, community, and presence when everything else begins to fall away.</p><p><br></p><p>Despite the weight of the topic, this episode is spacious, honest, and warm because, somewhere inside conversations about loss are also conversations about love and being truly alive.</p><p>____</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Timestamps to Specific Segments:</strong></p><p>(00:00) Intro</p><p>(03:12) Meet Rose Gichure, a Grief Coach & Host of the Grief Angels Podcast</p><p>(07:12) Is There a "Right" Way to Grieve?</p><p>(10:39) How Culture Shapes the Way We Mourn</p><p>(13:11) The Myths and Misunderstandings Around Grief</p><p>(24:47) Why "Moving On" Is the Wrong Phrase</p><p>(25:40) How Loss Reshapes Life Decisions and Priorities</p><p>(40:03) How to Heal & Rebuild After a Huge Loss</p><p>(43:23) Rethinking Grief & Difference Grief Experiences</p><p>(46:57) What to Say (and Not Say) to Someone Grieving</p><p>(49:01) Presence, Support, and Showing Up for People</p><p>(58:12) Final Reflections on Grief, Healing, and Support</p><p>(1:04:04) What Rose Gichure Has Recently Said "Yes"</p><p>(1:04:44) Outro</p><p>______</p><p><br></p><p>You'll most likely connect with this episode if:</p><ul><li>You've ever experienced grief, loss, or a major life transition.</li><li>You've struggled with the pressure to "move on".</li><li>You want to better support someone who is grieving.</li><li>You want a more honest, human conversation about grief and healing.</li><li>You're curious about the topic.</li></ul><p>______</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Important Links:</strong></p><p><br></p><p>Follow Rose Gichure:</p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/aymarose/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/aymarose/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Follow the Griel Angels Podcast:</p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/griefangelspodcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/griefangelspodcast/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch & Listen to the Grief Angels Podcast:</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@griefangelspodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@griefangelspodcast</a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0mJM765hzDTMZbTtOpAPZJ?si=9a1bde982fc84aa6" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/0mJM765hzDTMZbTtOpAPZJ?si=9a1bde982fc84aa6</a></p><p><br></p><p>Things you shouldn't say to someone who's grieving:</p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/5JEpxm5SyJ4?si=hB5NNPmVc-QWHDhn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/5JEpxm5SyJ4?si=hB5NNPmVc-QWHDhn</a></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent;">____________________</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 47, 54); background-color: transparent;">If you enjoy the podcast, we love you! And we'd like to ask you to </span><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2yAqJtkJnlXJ23Z5A229hR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); background-color: transparent;">rate us on Spotify</a><span style="color: rgb(41, 47, 54); background-color: transparent;"> - it will only take a couple of seconds, we promise! </span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 47, 54); background-color: transparent;">If you listen to us on Apple Podcasts, please take a moment to</span><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-yes-girls/id1560933330" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); background-color: transparent;"> </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-yes-girls/id1560933330" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(80, 0, 185); background-color: transparent;">leave a brief review</a><span style="color: rgb(41, 47, 54); background-color: transparent;">. We promise it will take less than a minute unless, of course, you have more to say. In any case, we appreciate you!</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 47, 54); background-color: transparent;">Thanks in advance!</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 47, 54); background-color: transparent;">_____________________</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent;">For video logs, visit </span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@yesgirlspodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.youtube.com/@yesgirlspodcast</a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(13, 13, 13);"> </span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 47, 54); background-color: transparent;">For blogs, visit</span><a href="https://yesgirlspodcast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(41, 47, 54); background-color: transparent;"> </a><a href="https://yesgirlspodcast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); background-color: transparent;">https://yesgirlspodcast.com/</a><span style="color: rgb(41, 47, 54); background-color: transparent;"> </span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(41, 47, 54); background-color: transparent;">Feel free to follow us across these platforms:</span></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/yesgirlspodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); background-color: transparent;">INSTAGRAM</a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;"> </span></p><p><a href="https://www.twitter.com/yesgirlspodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); background-color: transparent;">TWITTER</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/yesgirlspodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); background-color: transparent;">LINKEDIN</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@yesgirlspodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent;">TIKTOK</a></p>
May 1, 2026
86. What we forget every time we click 'order': convenience isn't simple - yet it feels effortless w/ Nira Nyangweso & Greenspoon
<p>We've all done it. Add to cart, checkout, close the app. And then… we wait. But we rarely stop to ask what actually happens behind the scenes.</p><p><br></p><p>For Season 9, the Yes Girls are going <strong>back to basics</strong>, looking at how the systems we rely on actually work. For this episode, they're saying yes to something most of us take for granted: healthy eating on the go.</p><p><br></p><p>So they partnered with Greenspoon to test something bold: can you really get fresh, healthy food delivered to your door in under 45 minutes… without something breaking behind the scenes?</p><p><br></p><p>To find out, they went straight to the source.</p><p><br></p><p>Akumu and Claire visited the Greenspoon fulfilment centre to see what really happens after you click "order" - and what they found wasn't robots, sci-fi automation, or even magic. They found people - dozens of people moving fast, thinking faster, and working in sync. So whether yours is a standard order or a GreenspoonGo order, an entire system springs into action the moment you press that button on the app or website.</p><p><br></p><p>What this episode reveals is the human coordination, care, and intensity behind that beautiful thing we call "convenience." And somewhere along the way, the question shifts. It's no longer just: "How does delivery work?" but: "What does this kind of convenience actually require from other people?"</p><p><br></p><p>To answer that, Akumu and Claire are joined in the studio (weeks after visiting the fulfillment centre) by Nira Nyangweso, Creative Lead at Greenspoon.</p><p>____</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Timestamps to Specific Segments</strong></p><p><br></p><p>(0:00) Intro</p><p>(2:59) Meet Nira Nyangweso & the mission behind Greenspoon's take on healthy convenience</p><p>(5:19) What "convenience" really means behind the scenes at Greenspoon</p><p>(7:08) The Yes Challenge: how it unfolded</p><p>(9:21) What actually happens the moment you click "order"</p><p>(16:03) Where "healthy" really shows up even when convenience is the goal</p><p>(20:14) The live test: Did our GreenspoonGo order arrive within 45 minutes?</p><p>(22:03) What happens on the tech side when an order comes in</p><p>(22:42) Did the Yes Girls succeed with this Yes Challenge?</p><p>(24:37) Where Greenspoon fits alongside supermarkets, organic markets, and growing your own food</p><p>(29:37) How 45-minute delivery became possible, and what it depends on</p><p>(34:59) What's next for Greenspoon</p><p>(38:55) Common misconceptions about Greenspoon</p><p>(41:17) What genuinely surprised Akumu and Claire at the fulfilment centre</p><p>(45:14) Simple ways to start saying yes to healthier eating on the go</p><p>(49:52) What Nira has recently said yes to</p><p>(50:21) Outro</p><p>____</p><p><br></p><p>Find photos and videos from this Yes Challenge and Yespisode across all social media platforms: @yesgirlspodcast</p><p><br></p><p><strong>This episode is proudly brought to you by Greenspoon:</strong></p><p><br></p><p>Greenspoon is a Nairobi-based online marketplace built on a simple idea: food should be good for you, and good for the world.</p><p><br></p><p>As a certified B Corp, they're held to high standards of social and environmental responsibility, working closely with local farmers and producers to prioritise transparency, fair partnerships, and responsible sourcing.</p><p><br></p><p>Their approach is about more than convenience - it's about helping people understand where their food comes from, who made it, and how it gets to them, while making it easier to access fresh, healthy, and high-quality products.</p><p><br></p><p><strong><u>Important links:</u></strong></p><p><br></p><p>Order on Greenspoon:</p><p><a href="https://greenspoon.co.ke/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://greenspoon.co.ke</a></p><p><br></p><p>Follow Nira here: <a href="https://ke.linkedin.com/in/nira-nyangweso-1132061aa" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ke.linkedin.com/in/nira-nyangweso-1132061aa</a></p><p><br></p><p>_______</p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(41, 47, 54);">If you enjoy the podcast, we love you! And we'd like to ask you to </span><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2yAqJtkJnlXJ23Z5A229hR" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">rate us on Spotify</a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(41, 47, 54);"> - it will only take a couple of seconds, we promise! </span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(41, 47, 54);">If you listen to us on Apple Podcasts, please take a moment to</span><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-yes-girls/id1560933330" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(17, 85, 204);"> </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-yes-girls/id1560933330" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(80, 0, 185);">leave a brief review</a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(41, 47, 54);">. 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- What is Yes Girls Podcast?
<p>Yes Girls Podcast is Africa's first experiential growth media brand, designed as a structured, documented public laboratory for personal development.</p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent;">For the ambitious, the curious, and those unwilling to live on autopilot, this audio-first podcast explores what it truly takes to evolve through lifelong learning, self-discovery, and a growth mindset, grounded not just in theory, but in practice.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent;">Every bi-weekly episode is either a Yespisode (beginning with a Yes Challenge) or a Yesticle (beginning with a real-world challenge), built to stretch comfort zones and expand capability. Award-winning hosts Akumu Fiona and Claire Baker document the process on record.</span></p><p><br></p><p>Tune in and start practising the kind of courage that turns curiosity into transformation. Then keep saying YES. Follow on all platforms: @yesgirlspodcast</p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
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