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You Can Be Both

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by Lauren Lanzaretta

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You Can Be Both is hosted by singer/songwriter Lauren Lanzaretta, who shares honest conversations about being both gay and Christian—two identities often seen as incompatible. The podcast creates space for LGBTQ+ people of faith to find healing, community, and a deeper connection with Christ while fully embracing who they are. As a first step to your healing journey, I recommend the “LGBTQ+ Healing & Resource Guide” - go to www.laurenlanzaretta.com/youcanbeboth Send testimony/questions to https://bit.ly/49G1tpz

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June 14, 2026

Gospel Singer Lost Everything When She Came Out as Gay — Now Married to Captain Sandy Yawn

For more than 20 years, Leah Rae Yawn (formerly Shafer) was a gospel worship leader at Saddleback Church. She sang for Women of Faith, worked with Michael W. Smith and Natalie Grant, recorded multiple albums, and sung the national anthem at NFL games. Her voice and faith were her livelihood, her heart, and her life. Then she came out as gay — and lost it all. In this powerful episode of You Can Be Both, Leah Rae opens up about her journey from a strict Christian upbringing to realizing she was bisexual, her 21-year marriage to a man, and the moment she met Captain Sandy Yawn from Bravo's Below Deck Mediterranean — the first woman she ever truly loved. When the churches that had been her home for decades discovered her relationship with Sandy, they rejected her completely. She was no longer allowed to lead worship. Her platform vanished. The community she'd served for two decades turned their backs. But in losing everything, Leah found something greater: authenticity, freedom, and a partner who loves her unconditionally. In this episode, Leah shares: <ul><li>How she suppressed her sexuality for decades while leading worship</li><li>The moment she knew she was drawn to women</li><li>What it felt like to lose her church community overnight</li></ul><ul><li>Her relationship with Captain Sandy and what true love means now</li><li>Why LGBTQ+ people belong in church and can lead worship</li><li>Her message to LGBTQ+ people still struggling in the closet or in unsupportive churches</li></ul> Leah's Powerful Message: "If you can't find a church that you feel like you belong to, there's so many other beautiful things out there that can help you thrive. Church is not a building — it's the soul." This is a conversation about faith, rejection, love, and reclaiming your voice. If you've been rejected by a faith community, if you're struggling to come out, or if you're navigating faith and sexuality — this episode is for you. FEATURED:-Leah Rae Yawn, Gospel Singer & Worship Leader (Now Married to Captain Sandy Yawn)-Host: Lauren Lanzaretta, You Can Be Both Podcast RESOURCES:Lauren's LGBTQ+ Healing and Resource Guide: laurenlanzaretta.com/youcanbeboth FOLLOW:Leah Rae Yawn on Instagram: @leahraeofficialCaptain Sandy Yawn on Instagram: @captainsandrayawnBelow Deck Mediterranean on Bravo LAUREN:Instagram: @LanzarettaSpotify: Lauren LanzarettaApple Music: Lauren LanzarettaYouTube: Lauren Lanzaretta

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June 7, 2026

PROOF that "Homosexuality" Was Never in The Original Bible: Kathy Baldock Explains The Mistranslation That's Oppressed LGBTQ+ For Centuries

For nearly 2,000 years, the word "homosexual" did not appear in the Bible. So what changed in 1946? Kathy Baldock is a leading voice on LGBTQ+ issues within Christianity and the author of "Forging a Sacred Weapon" and "Walking the Bridgeless Canyon." She's also featured in the award-winning documentary "1946: The Mistranslation That Shifted Culture." In 1946, Bible translators made a controversial decision to add the word "homosexuality" to the Revised Standard Version of the Bible — a word that had never appeared in the original Greek and Hebrew texts. In this powerful conversation, Kathy reveals how that single mistranslation changed the course of Christian history and how that lie has been used to marginalize and oppress the LGBTQ+ community for decades. This isn't her opinion, it's FACTS. But Kathy's journey to this work wasn't always about LGBTQ+ issues. It started with her own experience of being stigmatized and marginalized in her Irish Catholic community. When she was two years old, her father left her family, and she was made to feel like something was wrong with her. That pain, that sense of injustice, eventually led her to meet Netto on a hiking trail — a woman who would change everything and introduce her to the LGBTQ+ community in a way that challenged everything she thought she knew. In this episode, Kathy shares:<ul><li>The real history behind the 1946 Bible mistranslation</li><li>How religious institutions built oppression on a lie</li><li>Why understanding history is the key to healing</li><li>Her powerful message to LGBTQ+ people of faith</li><li>How the heart of God is not reflected in discrimination and marginalization</li></ul> You definitely want to watch this one all the way through! Kathy's message at the end will leave you in tears! This is a conversation about faith, history, justice, and hope. If you've ever questioned what the Bible really says about LGBTQ+ people, this episode is for you. This isn't opinion, it's FACTS. FEATURED:Kathy Baldock, Author & Leading Voice on LGBTQ+ Issues in ChristianityHost: Lauren Lanzaretta, You Can Be Both Podcast RESOURCES:-Lauren's LGBTQ+ Healing and Resource Guide: http://youcanbeboth.com/ -Documentary "1946: The Mistranslation That Shifted Culture": https://www.1946themovie.com/ -Kathy Baldock's Books: "Forging a Sacred Weapon": https://amzn.to/4oaBrQy "Walking the Bridgeless Canyon": https://amzn.to/4g5mBc6 Canyon Walker Connections: https://canyonwalkerconnections.com/about/kathy-baldock/ FOLLOW LAUREN:Instagram: @lanzarettaSpotify: Lauren LanzarettaApple Music: Lauren LanzarettaYouTube: Lauren Lanzaretta

May 31, 2026

"Testify to Love" Singer Michael Passons: Kicked Out For Being Gay, Now Topping Christian Charts

Michael Passons was a founding member of Avalon, one of the biggest Christian music groups of all time. He wrote and performed "Testify to Love," a song that became an icon of Christian music. But when he came out as gay, he was forced out of the band and lost everything. Now, Michael is rewriting his story — and breaking records doing it. He just rereleased "Testify to Love" as an LGBTQ+ affirming anthem with country artist Ty Herndon, and together they became the first openly gay artists to reach #1 on the iTunes Christian charts. In this episode of You Can Be Both, Michael sits down with host Lauren Lanzaretta to share his full journey: Growing up in rural Mississippi. His dream of becoming a Christian music artist. What it felt like to be kicked out of Avalon for being gay. His spiritual deconstruction and finding faith again on his own terms. And what it means to finally sing authentically. This is a powerful conversation about survival, resilience, and reclaiming your voice. IN THIS EPISODE WE TALK ABOUT:<ul><li>Michael's journey as a founding member of Avalon and writing the iconic "Testify to Love"</li><li>Growing up in rural Mississippi in a conservative Baptist church</li><li>Realizing he was gay and the internal struggle that followed</li><li>Being forced out of Avalon for coming out</li><li>His spiritual deconstruction and stepping away from organized religion</li><li>Finding his way back to faith and spirituality on his own terms</li><li>Rereleasing "Testify to Love" as an LGBTQ+ affirming anthem with Ty Herndon</li><li>Making history as the first openly gay artists to reach #1 on iTunes Christian charts</li><li>What it means to sing and live authentically</li><li>His message to LGBTQ+ people still in the closet</li><li>Advice for worship leaders who've been kicked out of church</li><li>The power of reclaiming your voice and your story</li></ul> FOLLOW MICHAEL:Instagram: @michaelpassonsSpotify: Michael PassonsApple Music: Michael PassonsYouTube: Michael Passons FOLLOW LAUREN:Instagram: @laurenlanzarettaYouTube: Lauren LanzarettaSpotify: Lauren LanzarettaApple Music: Lauren Lanzaretta FREE LGBTQ+ HEALING & RESOURCE GUIDE:Access Lauren's full story, healing resources, books, podcasts, and voices that have helped transform shame to freedom.Visit: laurenlanzaretta.com/youcanbeboth

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What is You Can Be Both?: You Can Be Both is hosted by singer/songwriter Lauren Lanzaretta, who shares honest conversations about being both gay and Christian—two identities often seen as incompatible. The podcast creates space for LGBTQ+ people of faith to find healing, community, and a deeper connection with Christ while fully embracing who they are.

As a first step to your healing journey, I recommend the “LGBTQ+ Healing & Resource Guide” - go to www.laurenlanzaretta.com/youcanbeboth

Send testimony/questions to https://bit.ly/49G1tpz
How often does this podcast release new episodes?: This podcast updates daily.
Where can I listen to this podcast?: This podcast is available on 4 platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and more. You can also use the RSS feed directly.
Does this podcast accept guests?: Yes, this podcast regularly features guests.

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