You Can't Stay Here Pod

About You Can't Stay Here Pod

We all have a story. Stories of challenges we have overcome when the odds were against us. In this podcast, we pull back the curtain on those pivotal moments, exploring the resilience, courage, and grit required to navigate life’s toughest chapters. Join me as I sit down with guests from all walks of life to share raw, unfiltered narratives about taking on those challenges and finding the strength to climb back up. Whether you are seeking inspiration, seeking connection, or simply looking for a reminder that you aren't fighting your battles alone, this space is dedicated to the power of the human spirit. Key Themes Explored in This Podcast: * Overcoming adversity and life-altering setbacks. * Turning personal pain into purpose and growth. * Strategies for building resilience during difficult transitions. * Coaching around toxic cultures, impostor syndrome, burnout, etc. * The psychological impact of facing the "impossible." * Celebrating the quiet triumphs that go unnoticed.

Publisher

you Can't Stay Here

Category

health & fitness

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

19 Aug 2026

Latest episode

28 Oct 2026

Latest episodes

9 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   28 Oct 2026

   Episode 9: Overcoming Job Loss and Grief

   Losing a job can feel like grief, and it's rarely talked about. Pam Rosenthal and recruiter and career coach Jennifer Abrahamson look at how much of our identity sits in our work. They cover: Losing work friendships, and why one follow-up message is worth sending. How grief differs after a layoff, a firing or a choice to leave. A 10-minute "honest inventory" and a kudos folder. Short, honest answers to "why did you leave?" Resume, LinkedIn and networking tips for the search. If you're between roles or in a career pivot, this one is for you. Jennifer also takes resume review clients; her contact details are in the episode.#JobLoss #Grief #CareerTransition #JobSearch #LayoffSupport #CareerCoaching #Networking #YouCantStayHere

2. 

   20 Oct 2026

   Episode 8: Resilience, Faith, Gratitude

   Episode 8: Resilience, Faith, Gratitude Check it out anywhere you find your podcasts #Mindset #MentalPerformance #Resilience #Faith #Coaching #AthleteDevelopment #PersonalGrowth #Gratitude Angie Wiley on faith, mindset, and building a high-performance coaching business Pam talks with Angie Wiley about her journey from medical device sales leadership to coaching athletes and professionals on the mental side of performance. The conversation centers on how faith, daily mindset practices, and small consistent steps helped Angie navigate career transitions, caregiving, grief, and rebuilding her work around purpose. In this episode: Angie and Pam reconnect over their years working together in medical device sales, including the challenge of leading through reorganizations and starting a new role during COVID. Angie shares how her coaching path began in childhood through sports, where she was exposed early to mindset and the mental game. She explains how a persistent “tap” or pull led her to hire a coach in 2012 and launch You Are Strong in 2013. Angie describes how the name and message of her business took on deeper meaning after her husband, Chuck, was diagnosed with terminal cancer. The discussion explores what it looked like to keep building a business while working full time, raising kids, traveling, and caregiving. Angie reflects on how sports and high performance concepts transfer directly into business and life. Pam and Angie talk candidly about grief, resilience, and the choice to focus on happiness, peace, and gratitude even in hard seasons. Angie shares the daily mental reps that changed her life: stillness, prayer, meditation, reading, journaling, and self-coaching. They discuss how surrender, faith, and listening can shape decisions when the future is uncertain. Angie explains the mission of the Chuck Wiley Athletic Foundation and how it helps keep athletes in the game through scholarships.

3. 

   13 Oct 2026

   Episode 7: Visualization

   Episode 7: Visualization #visualization #mentalhealth #youcantstayherepod #gettingbetter #positivity #negativeselftalk Visualization as a Tool for Better Outcomes Pam explains how visualization can help interrupt negative self-talk, strengthen confidence, and prepare for high-pressure moments. The episode connects practical examples from public speaking and workplace situations to research on neuroplasticity, motor recovery, and performance training.In this solo episode, Pam walks through what visualization is, why it works, and how to use it in a way that supports calmer, more effective responses when things get difficult. Key topics In this episode: visualization is framed as mentally rehearsing a positive outcome instead of repeatedly playing a negative “movie” in your head. Pam connects visualization to neuralplasticity explaining that repeated mental rehearsal helps strengthen positive pathways instead of reinforcing fear-based ones. She describes the brain’s negativity bias and how visualization can help interrupt fight, flight, freeze responses The episode introduces the Reticular Activating System (RAS) as a mental filter that can be trained to focus on opportunities instead of threats. Pam shares a real-world story from her work in medical device sales , where visualization could have helped her prepare for a challenging physician interaction and what she learned from it. She cites research showing that mental imagery can activate the same neural pathways as physical movement, including a stroke recovery study combining visualization with physical therapy. Pam discusses examples from Astronaut training and prisoner of war survivor, showing how rehearsing failure scenarios can reduce panic in real emergencies. She reviews studies on imagery strength training, including weightlifting, bicep curls, and immobilized arms, to show that mental practice can improve physical performance. She closes with a step-by-step method for using visualization: ground yourself, breathe, picture the positive outcome in detail, then rehearse possible problems and your response Pam encourages using visualization for speeches, interviews, hard conversations, and other situations where confidence and composure matter. Notable quotes “Your brain cannot distinguish between vivid imagery and real experiences.” “It’s a movie that we play in our head.” “We have a powerful, powerful tool to use. And it’s yours to utilize any way you want to.”

4. 

   6 Oct 2026

   Episode 6: Journey to Coaching

   You can find this podcast wherever you typically watch or listen The Journey to Coaching, Confidence, and Courage Pam talks with Brad Finkeldei about how a life coaching conversation, a corporate layoff, and a series of fear-facing moments shaped his path into coaching. The episode explores how fear, confidence, and purpose show up in everyday life and why learning to listen to yourself can change the direction of your work and relationships.Brad shares how his own setbacks became the foundation for helping others move through insecurity, take action, and make better decisions. Pam also highlights Brad’s book, his coaching philosophy, and the importance of recognizing when fear is running the show. Timestamps 00:00 - Opening banter and setting up the episode 03:09 - The life coach conversation that changed Brad’s perspective 04:05 - Leaving behind the computer-first life 05:21 - A layoff that became a turning point 06:37 - Choosing photography as the next chapter 07:34 - How coaching entered the picture 08:42 - Trip to Ecuador and speaking at the university 09:18 - The rubber chicken symbol and what it meant 10:22 - The death of the shaman and taking on his message 11:31 - Confronting a package thief face to face 14:16 - Listening to someone’s story instead of judging it 15:52 - Intention, opportunity, and what fear reveals 17:15 - Learning when to coach and when not to coach 19:06 - Practice, repetition, and building discernment 20:14 - Confidence through experience, not just theory 21:51 - Coaching as listening, reflection, and empathy 23:22 - Helping people discover something new about themselves 24:05 - Brad’s books and why one was easier to talk about than the other 25:17 - Writing The Mindset Shift in about 100 days 27:00 - The Inspired Mornings Journal and growth through iteration 28:48 - Fear, excitement, and operating from an authentic place 30:54 - Why choosing through fear is part of living fully 33:29 - The belt story and fear making up worst-case scenarios 36:28 - Purpose, nudges, and being pushed toward the right path 37:39 - Slowing down and listening to what your heart is saying

5. 

   30 Sept 2026

   Negative Self Talk

   Taming Your Self-Talk Pam uses this episode to unpack negative self-talk and show how it can be rewritten through awareness, compassion, and repetition. She mixes research-backed concepts with a personal work story to explain why the brain defaults to self-criticism and how to build a healthier response.This is a solo episode with Pam as the only speaker. The main focus is educational, centered on understanding where negative self-talk comes from and what to do about it. Time Stamp: 00:00 - Opening the episode and setting the intention 00:56 - Why Pam researched negative self-talk after episode four 02:22 - The belief-thought-word-habit-destiny sequence 03:42 - Beliefs as filters that shape what we notice 04:25 - The speech example: focusing on five people instead of 45 07:02 - Neuroplasticity and why rewiring is possible 07:30 - The dirt road metaphor for ingrained thought loops 10:47 - Workplace conflict and the triggering event that changed everything 12:30 - The thought, emotion, and behavior pattern that followed 14:59 - What it looked like to break the cycle 17:05 - The brain’s “spotter” mode and stress response 18:55 - Building a new trail instead of staying on the rutted road 21:35 - Introducing Taming Your Gremlin and the inner critic 22:58 - The power of simply noticing negative self-talk 24:53 - Naming the gremlin and creating distance from it 28:47 - Recognizing the body signals before the thoughts fully land 29:44 - Talking back to the gremlin with reality checks 30:25 - Square breathing as a tool to regulate the nervous system 31:23 - Reframing a mistake as a learning opportunity 33:19 - Catching self-punishment in real time at the winery 35:12 - Choosing not to punish herself and enjoying the moment 36:36 - Final takeaway: negative self-talk is rewiring, so treat it seriously 37:03 - The listener assignment: notice it and name it 37:59 - Closing thanks and sign-off Action items Notice when negative self-talk shows up Name the inner critic something specific and even silly Practice stepping back and observing the thought instead of fusing with it Use square breathing when the body starts to react Reframe mistakes as data for improvement rather than proof of inadequacy

6. 

   21 Sept 2026

   Episode 4: Pam and Jennifer on internal dialogue

   Voices That Keep Us Stuck, and How to Answer Back Pam talks with Jennifer Abrahamson about the internal voices that shape self-worth, especially in seasons of transition, comparison, and uncertainty. Jennifer brings 15 years of recruiting experience in healthcare, a psychology background, and deep faith perspective to a conversation about imposter syndrome, identity, and learning to speak truth back to fear. In this episode, they also discuss how upbringing and life experiences can feed limiting beliefs, why women often undercompensate while men overcompensate, and how small acts of courage can help rebuild confidence. Key topics Jennifer shares her background in recruiting across pharmaceutical, medical device, and biotech, plus earlier work in behavioral therapy, project management, and executive support. Pam highlights Jennifer’s devotional, Rooted in Rising, and how its message felt like a different, deeper voice from the one heard in everyday conversation. You can find her books on Amazon They discuss the “voice” many people carry internally that says they are behind, not enough, or fundamentally wrong. Jennifer explains why this struggle shows up so often in professional women, working moms, and even highly accomplished people. They explore imposter syndrome in both men and women, with Jennifer noting that men often overcompensate while women undercompensate. Jennifer connects those voices to upbringing, environment, and coping patterns formed in childhood reinforced over time. They talk about moving beyond negative self-talk by grounding identity in truth, especially scripture and the belief that one is a daughter of the King. Jennifer emphasizes practical steps like affirmation, taking small calculated risks, and building confidence brick by brick. She shares how a corporate layoff led to starting her own business, and how that season stretched her faith before guiding her into a new direction. The conversation closes with a reminder that God already knows our honest thoughts and invites us to bring them forward without pretending. Timestamps 00:00 - Introduction to Jennifer Abrahamson and how she and Pam met through recruiting 01:00 - Jennifer’s background in healthcare recruiting and earlier work in behavioral therapy 03:00 - Why Rooted in Rising resonated so deeply with Pam and her friends 04:20 - The devotional chapter about the voices we believe 06:00 - Why so many women feel “not enough” in the age of social media 07:40 - What Jennifer hears in recruiting conversations with high-achieving candidates 08:55 - How imposter syndrome shows up differently in men and women 10:45 - Comparison, calling, and the lie that we should be further along 12:00 - How environment and upbringing shape the voices we carry 14:20 - Replacing negative voices with truth, scripture, and small acts of courage 16:40 - Starting a business after a layoff and wrestling with failure 19:30 - The pressure of being the primary breadwinner and staying scrappy 22:30 - Learning to talk back to God honestly 25:55 - “Jesus, help me” as a simple prayer in moments of overwhelm 27:40 - Advice for people in transition: give yourself grace, learn, and speak up 29:30 - Where to find Jennifer Action items Notice the voice that shows up most often in moments of stress or transition. Replace vague self-criticism with specific truth about identity and calling. Take one small, low-risk step instead of waiting to feel fully ready. Ask for help when a job, role, or season exceeds your current capacity. Practice honesty in prayer rather than trying to sound polished

7. 

   15 Sept 2026

   Overwhelm and Burnout

   Overwhelm and Burnout: How to tell the difference and what to do next. We are discussing a practical, personal walkthrough of overwhelm and burnout, including how they differ, how they show up in the body, and what to do before overwhelm becomes chronic. The episode matters because it reframes these states as signals, not failures, and gives simple tools for regaining control when your mind and body feel overloaded. Key Topics: In this episode, we are defining Overwhelm as an acute state and Burnout as a chronic state and that overwhelm can become burnout when it lasts too long. Common signs of overwhelm, including decision fatigue, avoidance, isolation, shame, frustration, and feeling like life is asking for more that you can give. Burnout as deeper depletion, with symptoms like chronic fatigue, dread, low motivation, brain fog, emotional numbness, and reduced performance. How stress shows up physically, including neck tension, headaches, low back pain, gut issues, sleep disturbances, and waking throughout the night with racing thoughts. She notes that both overwhelm and burnout can affect work, home life, confidence, and relationships, especially when you start withdrawing or snapping more easily. Recognize your own pattern is the first step, because knowing how overwhelm shows up in your body helps you respond earlier. There are several grounding tools, including box breathing, body scans, meditation, stepping away briefly, and taking some time to do nothing Make practical adjustments like protecting your off switch, shutting off our phone after a certain time, simplifying your workload, and prioritizing sleep Brain Dumping method: write everything down, sort it into buckets, then turn the list into something manageable. Closing with the 4 D's of time management : delete, delegate, defer, and do now. Timestamps: 00:00 - Why this episode is about overwhelm and burnout 03:01 - What overwhelm is and how it shows up 05:30 - Burnout as a chronic, depleted state 10:22 - Shared symptoms like exhaustion, brain fog, and poor sleep 12:58 - How overwhelm affects performance and relationships 14:44 - Why burnout feels deeper and harder to recover from 16:32 - The first step: notice how stress shows up in your body 18:00 - Box breathing and centering as a reset tool 19:58 - One in, one out and protecting your capacity 22:37 - Boundaries, sleep, support, and simplifying workload 26:21 - Fight, flight, and freeze responses under stress 29:25 - The brain dump method for clearing mental overload 32:22 - The 4 D’s: delete, delegate, defer, and do now 34:41 - Giving yourself credit for recognizing overwhelm early Action Items Notice your personal warning signs of overwhelm. Try box breathing when your thoughts start racing. Do a brain dump and sort tasks into categories. Protect your off switch by setting work boundaries. Identify one task to delete, delegate, defer, or do now. Prioritize sleep, movement, and recovery time.

8. 

   6 Sept 2026

   Pam and Bob

   You Can't Stay Here, Episode 2 Pam introduces her husband, Robert Rosenthal, and uses the episode to unpack the meaning behind the show’s title. The conversation connects Pam’s life story, Robert’s upbringing, and the shared pattern of getting to a point where staying the same is no longer an option. It’s a personal, reflective episode about survival, trust, marriage, and the decision to move forward even when it feels risky. Key topics In this episode, Pam and Robert explain how the phrase “You can’t stay here” became the emotional center of the podcast and the song Heath wrote after hearing Pam’s story. Robert shares how the song started as a tentative idea, how he sat with it for about a month before telling Pam, and why it felt risky to turn her life into a song. Pam reflects on her own journey from poverty and embarrassment to earning a BSN and MBA, raising three boys as a single mom, and building a career in nursing and medical devices. They discuss how every person’s hardship is different, and why comparing pain across families or circumstances is not fair or useful. Robert describes his childhood in a tightly controlled, isolated religious environment where he was made to feel responsible for terrible things, including droughts and other disasters. Pam adds context to that upbringing, describing it as cult-like and reinforcing how damaging it was to a child’s sense of safety and responsibility. Robert explains how that experience shaped his adulthood, including his tendency to expect consequences for everything and to stay overly safe. The episode also traces Robert’s college years, when he pushed against those restrictions, got into trouble, and then slowly began rebuilding a healthier life. Pam and Robert connect their personal histories to their marriage, describing how trust, stability, and emotional growth helped them build a life together. Robert shares a key turning point in their relationship when Pam sent him lyrics from “White Flag” by Dido during a breakup, and he realized he could not keep choosing safety over action. Timestamps 00:00 - Introducing the podcast and why the title matters 02:02 - How Heath’s song connected Pam’s story to the phrase “you can’t stay here” 05:14 - Why Pam’s transformation from food stamps to leadership is so rare 06:38 - Pam’s journey from single mom to nursing school, BSN, and MBA 09:48 - The central idea of the podcast: overcoming and sharing survival stories 10:04 - Robert’s career shift from St. Louis to central Illinois 12:31 - The “you can’t stay here” moment behind Robert’s decision to move 15:33 - Robert’s childhood in an isolated, tightly controlled family system 17:47 - Pam describes the environment as cult-like and spiritually manipulative 20:00 - How that upbringing shaped Robert’s fear of consequences 21:29 - Robert explains the religious control used to blame natural disasters on children 23:34 - Rebuilding a more normal life in high school after the leader died 24:26 - Why both Pam and Robert still wait for the other shoe to drop 26:50 - How stability works as both a strength and an annoyance in marriage 29:13 - Robert’s fifth

9. 

   19 Aug 2026

   Introductory Episode

   In this episode, the host shares her inspiring journey from a traumatic childhood to a successful career in medical device sales, emphasizing resilience, authenticity, and the power of storytelling. She discusses overcoming adversity, the importance of community, and her vision for sharing stories to inspire hope. keywords: resilience, storytelling, overcoming trauma, personal growth, medical device sales, authenticity, hope, mental health, empowerment, life journey, coaching

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