Two professional songwriters, trying to stay sane in the sometimes crazy world of the music business. The show touches on how to take care of your mental health, navigating being a creative with being a parent, tips and tricks about how to keep writing good songs, have co-writing works (and why it sometimes breaks down) and much more.

You Don't Have to Be Mad to Work Here ... But It Helps
Claim This Podcastby Charlie Grant and Jonatan Bäckelie
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Two professional songwriters, trying to stay sane in the sometimes crazy world of the music business. The show touches on how to take care of your mental health, navigating being a creative with being a parent, tips and tricks about how to keep writing good songs, have co-writing works (and why it sometimes breaks down) and much more.
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Recent Episodes

April 13, 2026
Hustle Culture for Songwriters
<p>We're back with a brand new episode where we talk about how we approach the idea of work ethic as creatives - does the hustle culture idea of grinding it out work in the context of making art? We also touch on the joys of helping people get their creative vision over the line. Especially when they are dealing with the struggles that come with being part of a minority, and how we deal with letting our "song babies" go when they are part of someone else' s project.</p><p>AND we share a bit of background on our new joint artist release DOMINO - </p><p>https://open.spotify.com/track/381e0PzSaN3u06khKfrIV1?si=7659c1a30bae4a7a</p>

March 9, 2026
My Little Gay Heart – Zahra Deljoui interview (Part 2)
<p>Welcome to part 2 of Jonatan's conversation with Zahra Deljoui. They touch on learning to be authentic as an artist - focusing on storytelling and writing about what's really going on for us rather than what we think people want to hear. Also the power art can have to fundamentally shift our perception on big things...and how to not fuck up a co-writing session!</p><p>Check out Zahra's latest release "Medical Misogyny" here: </p><p>https://open.spotify.com/track/3kYBPGVfnwNOzWT9sSTsEv?si=1d69f609b15d4999</p>

February 23, 2026
Damn the Tune Bullies - Zahra Deljoui interview, Part One
<p>We're back after a break and are excited to be diving back in. Kicking off our 2026 with Jonatan's conversation with British-Iranian alt-pop artist Zahra Deljoui, a brilliant songwriter and artist in the queer community. Together they cover topics such as what makes people gel when co-writing, identifying strengths and weaknesses as songwriters, imposter syndrome, and tune bullies.</p><p><br></p>
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