Zero Signal is a high-energy podcast for cybersecurity leaders, co-hosted by Conor Sherman and Stuart Mitchell. It uniquely blends current events with in-depth conversations featuring seasoned security executives, thinkers, and builders. The podcast addresses critical questions regarding the future of cybersecurity in an AI-driven landscape, focusing on what works, what's broken, and what's next, particularly as AI redefines trust in the digital world.

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Zero Signal is a high-energy podcast for cybersecurity leaders, co-hosted by Conor Sherman and Stuart Mitchell. It uniquely blends current events with in-depth conversations featuring seasoned security executives, thinkers, and builders. The podcast addresses critical questions regarding the future of cybersecurity in an AI-driven landscape, focusing on what works, what's broken, and what's next, particularly as AI redefines trust in the digital world.
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March 13, 2026
Creator of CVE-Genie, How AI will Transform Agentic Vulnerability Remediation - ft Saad Ullah
<p><strong>Episode Summary</strong></p><p>Saad Ullah, PhD student and founder of CVE-Genie, joins to explain how AI is changing vulnerability management and why defenders need to rethink their approach as threat actors adopt these tools. You’ll hear how his research is shaping the future of cybersecurity and what it means for staying ahead of attacks.</p><p> </p><p><strong>Sponsors</strong></p><p>Thank you to our sponsors who make this show possible.</p><p>→ <a href="https://hamptonnorth.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Hampton North</a>. Hampton North is the premium US based cybersecurity search firm.</p><p>→ <a href="https://www.sysdig.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Sysdig</a>. Secure the cloud the right way with agentic AI.</p><p> </p><p><strong>Guest Bio</strong></p><p>Saad Ullah is a PhD student at Boston University, a founder of CVE-Genie, and a key member of the Shellfish team for DARPA's cyber reasoning challenge. His work focuses on advancing AI-driven vulnerability management and has made a significant impact in the cybersecurity research community.</p><p> </p><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 Banter</p><p>02:24 Guest Intro: Saad Ullah</p><p>05:08 AI in Cybersecurity: The Emergence of Threats</p><p>07:41 CVE Genie: Revolutionizing Vulnerability Management</p><p>10:13 The Asymmetry of Defense: Challenges Ahead</p><p>15:49 The Future of Vulnerability Remediation</p><p>18:20 The Role of Security Engineers in an AI-Driven World</p><p>20:40 Building Trust in AI Systems for Cybersecurity</p><p>23:13 Passion and Evolution in Cybersecurity Careers</p><p>26:22 Collaboration and Support in Research</p><p>33:06 Exploring Vulnerabilities: The Journey Begins</p><p>36:25 Building a Comprehensive Benchmark for Vulnerabilities</p><p>39:33 Future of Vulnerability Management and Remediation</p><p>42:39 Looking Ahead: Conferences and Future Projects</p><p>44:52 Reflecting on Season One Highlights</p><p>48:26 Outro</p><p> </p><p><strong>Resources & Links</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://github.com/saad-ullah/cve-genie" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Github CVE-Genie</a></li><li><a href="https://www.darpa.mil/program/cyber-grand-challenge" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">DARPA Cyber Reasoning Challenge</a></li><li><a href="https://shellphish.net/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Shellphish</a></li><li><a href="https://artiphishell.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Artiphishell</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@PromptorGTFO" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Prompt||GTFO</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><strong>Call to Action</strong></p><p>If you found this episode useful, please share it and subscribe!</p><p>→ <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/zero-signal/id1834040829" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Apple Podcasts</a></p><p>→ <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0FSv4sNQ7xTGoSUNPq7wkM?si=8c1b3a2bab0742fc" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Spotify</a>.</p><p>→ <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvtGUUDFmi-aTEsna3wgfMrCH-DpZQJgn&si=nngXprr3kLqVNDDG" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">YouTube</a></p><p>→ <a href="https://www.zerosignalpod.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Website</a></p><p> </p><p>Follow You Hosts:</p><p>→ Conor Sherman: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/conordsherman/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">LinkedIn</a></p><p>→ Stuart Mitchell: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/stuart-mitchell-08230a40/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">LinkedIn</a></p>

March 13, 2026
Interview with Founders of Embedd Security
<p>On the Zero Signal Podcast, the hosts preview RSA micro-events and then interview Embed Security co-founders Seth Somersett (CEO) and Jeffrey Johns (CTO), who launched the company in 2024 after careers at NSA, FireEye/Mandiant, Google, Meta, and others. They discuss the SOC’s operational crisis—thousands of daily alerts, manual triage, burnout, and uninvestigated incidents—and how Embed aims to reduce investigation time and alert noise using agentic AI with human oversight, transparency, and a “chain of evidence” that shows its reasoning. They argue the analyst role will shift toward validating AI-driven investigations, that organizational context and feedback are key, and that investigation, detection engineering, and threat hunting will converge. They cite customer results like ~90% false-positive reduction and ~155 hours saved per month, predict major disruption to MDR/MSP economics, and emphasize domain-specific models and trust-building metrics.<br /><br />00:00 Podcast Welcome<br aria-hidden="true" />00:41 RSA Micro Events<br aria-hidden="true" />01:54 AI SOC Alert Crisis<br aria-hidden="true" />02:47 Meet Embed Security<br aria-hidden="true" />06:17 Why Tackle Investigation<br aria-hidden="true" />07:50 State of Detection Today<br aria-hidden="true" />10:43 Future SOC Analyst Role<br aria-hidden="true" />14:35 Skills That Stand Out<br aria-hidden="true" />19:06 Human in the Loop<br aria-hidden="true" />22:43 Building Modern Detections<br aria-hidden="true" />24:58 Convergence Ahead<br aria-hidden="true" />26:26 AI Arms Race Reality<br aria-hidden="true" />27:38 Defenders Gain New Tools<br aria-hidden="true" />28:33 False Positives Economics<br aria-hidden="true" />30:56 Proactive Analyst Work<br aria-hidden="true" />31:51 MDR Market Disruption<br aria-hidden="true" />35:03 Build Versus Buy AI<br aria-hidden="true" />36:17 Domain Specific Models<br aria-hidden="true" />41:46 Trust And Transparency<br aria-hidden="true" />46:19 Measuring Trust Metrics<br aria-hidden="true" />49:19 Customer Win Story<br aria-hidden="true" />50:51 Lightning Round Threats<br aria-hidden="true" />53:20 Closing Thanks</p>

March 2, 2026
Business-Driven Security: SAP on Cyber Risk & AI Security - ft. Jay Thoden van Velzen
<p><b>Episode Summary</b></p><p>Business-Driven Security: SAP on Cyber Risk & AI Security features Jay Thoden van Velzen, Technical Advisor in SAP’s Office of the Chief Security Officer. The episode explores how cybersecurity must evolve to secure business processes, not just technology, and addresses the challenges of agentic AI, risk quantification, and the importance of human-centric controls in enterprise environments.</p><p> </p><p><b>Sponsors</b></p><p>Thank you to our sponsors who make this show possible.</p><p>→ <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://hamptonnorth.com/">https://hamptonnorth.com/</a>. Hampton North is the premium US-based cybersecurity search firm.</p><p>→ <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.sysdig.com/">https://www.sysdig.com/</a>. Leader in real-time AI-powered cloud security.</p><p> </p><p><b>Guest Introduction</b></p><p>Jay Thoden van Velzen is a Technical Advisor in SAP's Office of the Chief Security Officer, supporting security processes, products, and partner management across cybersecurity functions. He previously led SAP cloud security operations and transformation during SAP’s rapid shift to cloud business applications and platforms.</p><p> </p><p><b>Chapters</b></p><ul><li>00:00 Introduction to SAP and Its Impact</li><li>02:44 The Role of Cybersecurity in Business Processes</li><li>13:38 Risk Management and Business Outcomes</li><li>23:02 Exploring Security in Agentic Systems</li><li>27:20 Balancing Innovation and Compliance in AI</li><li>31:22 The Weight of SAP: Stability vs. Innovation</li><li>38:12 Future of AI and Data Sovereignty</li></ul><p> </p><p><b>Referenced Links & Resources</b></p><ul><li><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="ql-link" href="https://community.sap.com/t5/security-and-compliance-blog-posts/bg-p/security-complianceblog-board">SAP Community Security Blog</a></li><li><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="ql-link" href="https://news.sap.com/2025/11/sap-teched-developers-drive-agentic-ai-revolution/?utm_source=openai">SAP TechEd 2025: SAP launches RPT-1, AI & Security in Business Process Platforms</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><b>Call to Action</b></p><p>For more insights on business-driven security and agentic AI, follow Jay and the SAP Security team at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="ql-link" href="https://community.sap.com/t5/security-and-compliance-blog-posts/bg-p/security-complianceblog-board">SAP Community</a>.</p>
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