Zoom Out Pod

About Zoom Out Pod

Zoomer host. Seasoned guests. Edifying conversations. zoomerfaith.substack.com (https://zoomerfaith.substack.com/s/zoom-out-pod?utm_medium=podcast)

Publisher

Sacha Mugisha

Category

religion & spirituality · society & culture

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

24 Jan 2026

Latest episode

12 Oct 2026

Latest episodes

11 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   12 Oct 2026

   Bonus Episode: Happy Thanksgiving!

   There’s a theological phrase which I’m sure at least some of you in this sanctuary have heard before. It’s the idea of the Already But Not Yet. It’s the idea that there are things which God has promised us which we experience to a certain degree but the fullness of that promise is still in the future. We can dwell with God now and He lives in us through the Holy Spirit, but at the same time, the fulfillment of His promise is still ahead of us when we’re physically with Him in heaven, for example. There’s all kinds of examples of the Already But Not Yet in our lives. There’s obviously the fact that we’re on earth and one day we’ll dwell physically with God in the New Heaven and New Earth. There’s also just normal realities of life. For example, for me, I’ve lived in Medicine Hat now for just under two months. And before that, I worked in a city in British Columbia called Surrey. And I worked for almost a year, this nonprofit job where I was working admin. And — all love to everyone who works admin here, who has worked admin — but it just wasn’t... It just wasn’t my cup of tea. And I was getting really tired of it. And I was dreading going to work like basically every day. And then one Friday morning, I was on my way to work. And I opened up my Mail app and there was an email forwarded to me by a priest in BC. And the email was from Pastor Roland and it had the job description of the internship that I’m doing now. And I remember reading it and I was like, this is a Godsend. And now here I am. So in a sense, I was in this place that didn’t feel… It felt like there was more, but that’s where I was. And I’m sure many of us can relate to that experience. The Israelites related to that experience. The passage, the Old Testament passage this morning from Deuteronomy chapter 8 is basically a speech from Moses to the Israelites who are about to enter into the Promised Land. They’ve been in the wilderness for 40 years. And Moses is giving them, like it was mentioned earlier, he gives them a warning not to forget God in prosperity. Verses 7-10 read: 7For the Lord your God is bringing you into a good land of flowing streams and pools of water, with fountains and springs that gush out in the valleys and hills. 8It is a land of wheat and barley; of grapevines, fig trees, and pomegranates; of olive oil and honey. 9It is a land where food is plentiful and nothing is lacking. It is a land where iron is as common as stone, and copper is abundant in the hills. 10When you have eaten your fill, be sure to praise the Lord your God for the good land he has given you. Moses is aware that, sometimes, as human beings, we receive an amazing blessing, even a blessing that we’ve been praying for, and we forget to give thanks for it. Something else I noticed in the passage was in verses 2 to 4, where Moses, instead of kind of casting the vision for how the Israelites should thank God in the future when they get to the Promised Land, he kind of looks back and he calls them to remember the 40 years in the wilderness. He says: 2Remember how the Lord your God led you through the wilderness for these forty years, humbling you and testing you to prove your character, and to find out whether or not you would obey his commands. 3Yes, he humbled you by letting you go hungry and then feeding you with manna, a food previously unknown to you and your ancestors. He did it to teach you that people do not live by bread alone; rather, we live by every word that comes from the mouth of the Lord. 4For all these forty years your clothes didn’t wear out, and your feet didn’t blister or swell. Moses is reminding the Israelites that not only is God faithful to His ultimate promise, but even in the wilderness, God was present. We tend to think that God is only worthy of thanks when He has fulfilled the promise at the end of the story. But the truth is that even in the in-between, even in the wilderness season, even when I’m commuting to this admin job in Surrey day in day out, God is still faithful, even in those seasons. It is very intuitive to thank Him when He has answered a prayer. I mean, for those of you who have children, you’ve taught your children that when someone does something nice for you, you say thank-you. It’s one of the magic words, right? However, it’s less intuitive to thank God when you’re still waiting for that prayer to be answered. When you’re still waiting to be pregnant with your first child. Whatever it may be. It’s less intuitive. And yet, this is what Scripture over and over again calls us to. One of the experts of this posture was the Apostle Paul himself. In today’s New Testament reading, Paul says: I have learned how to be content with whatever I have. 12I know how to live on almost nothing or with everything. I have learned the secret of living in every situation, whether it is with a full stomach or empty, with plenty or little. 13For I can do everything through Christ, who gives me strength. That’s an amazing posture. Whether in heaven or on earth, whether in Medicine Hat or Surrey, whether in the Promised Land or wilderness, God is worthy of our thanks. There’s a woman in our congregation who actually inspired me last week just with how she lives out this teaching. I was in the lobby with Pastor Roland after the 10:30 service and she was coming out of the Fellowship Hall, and Pastor Roland just gave her a colloquial, “How was your week?” or “How are you doing?” Something like that. And then she had such a, such a positive response that we were both kind of taken aback. And then Pastor Roland kind of was asking her specifics of what made her week so good. And I’m not trying to make fun of her (They say imitation is the highest form of admiration, so whoever you are, this is out of love). I think word for word, she was like, “Well, if you can’t think of anything to be grateful for, you’re not looking hard enough.” And she said that verbatim. “You’re just not looking hard enough.” And you could tell she meant it. She wasn’t just saying it as a cliché. Both me and Pastor Roland thought it was very funny. She is someone who practices the art of gratitude every single day. She thanks God no matter the season. She thanks God for the big things, but she also thanks God for the small things. One of my theories of why the nine lepers didn’t come back to thank Jesus after He healed them — I think one of the reasons that only one leper went back to Jesus in the Gospel story — I think part of the reason is probably that the nine who didn’t come back just weren’t in the habit of giving thanks. One of the things that happens when we only think to thank God when He’s answered a prayer or when He’s fulfilled a promise, we get out of practice. And then when those times come, we haven’t been grateful. So it’s hard to turn it on. This is why, when LeAnn Greenwood asks me how to title this sermon for the YouTube page early in the week, I’m going to tell her that the title of this message is “Gratitude Is a Muscle.” I say that because if we fail to exercise this muscle in the wilderness, we will find that it has atrophied by the time we get to the Promised Land. We are called to be like the one leper who did come back to thank Jesus after he was healed of leprosy. But the only way to become like him is to thank God even before He has answered our prayers. In that same spirit, I want to share with you something that I’m thankful for on this Thanksgiving Day. When you look at one of the verses in the Gospel story, I think it was verse 3, when the lepers see Jesus coming to the border of Galilee and Samaria, they shout, “Jesus, Master, have mercy on us!” Now, one of the things about leprosy that was really, really difficult is that it’s not just a skin disease that has physical consequences but, because it was so highly contagious, people who had leprosy were ostracized and marginalized from the community. These are people who hadn’t hugged their family members, probably ever. These are people who craved that human connection that they were made for, but had been deprived of. And so this is where their desperation comes from when they see this Teacher, this Master, this Teacher, Jesus, who’s been healing people, and they’re desperate to be healed of this leprosy. I don’t think, well, I know for a fact that no one in this sanctuary today suffers from leprosy per se. But I’m sure that at least some of us struggle with a type of spiritual leprosy which prevents us from coming into community with people the way we would want to. I think one word that you could use for this spiritual leprosy is shame. One of the things that sin does in our lives is it makes us ashamed. It makes us scared to be seen and to be known by other people. And so we retreat almost as if we had leprosy. But the good news, just like Pastor Roland reminded us at the top of the service, the good news of the Gospel is that Jesus — through his life, death, and resurrection — paid for our sins. Forgiveness is available, and healing from leprosy, healing from shame is available. And there’s nothing you’ve done, nothing you’ve thought, nothing you’ve said, which exempts you from the free gift of forgiveness in Christ. He loves you on your worst day as much as He loves you on your best day. And that is one thing that I’m certainly grateful for this Thanksgiving! Let me pray for us, and then we’ll head into our next song: Father, thank you so much for this holiday which, in Canada, reminds us of Your command all over Scripture to give You praise. You don’t do it because You’re egotistical or because You need us to recognize Your hand in our lives, but You do it because You know it’s good for us. It’s what we were made to do. It makes our lives better. It makes our souls more grateful and more joyful, and it helps us to recognize You even in the wilderness. I pray that we would be a people that doesn’t just give You praise when You’ve answered our prayer, or when You fulfill the promise, but I pray that we would be a people that gives praise every day. Just like the lady in our congregation, I pray that we would look and find through each day the things that we ought to be grateful for. In Jesus’ name, I pray. Amen. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe (https://zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2)

2. 

   4 Oct 2026

   Ep.08: Philosophizing w/ James Taylor Foreman

   James Taylor Foreman (https://substack.com/profile/16244434-james-taylor-foreman) is the author of The Metaphor (https://www.taylorforeman.com) on Substack. His work has also been featured in The Dispatch, The Advocate, and Chisel (https://substack.com/profile/378110076-chisel) Magazine. His Saturday morning Substack posts have become a staple of my weekend reading, and it was a pleasure to chat with him about a handful of them this week. We also discussed the Christian qualities of actors and writers, the differences between Los Angeles and Louisiana, Southern Gothic literature, psychedelics, and why you should befriend elderly church ladies. I hope you will enjoy the episode as much as I did! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe (https://zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2)

3. 

   26 Sept 2026

   Bonus Episode: My First Homily

   Today’s show notes are more like… SERMON NOTES: I. Intro Good morning, church. I am honoured to be sharing today’s homily with all of you. I am so grateful to each of you for enabling me to serve Victory this year as I learn from our excellent clergy. And, although I have not yet met every single one of you, I have been touched by the warm welcome I’ve received from those of you I have met. One of the joys of my last few weeks has been the three seminary courses I’ve had the pleasure of beginning. I’ve been taking a Holy Spirit course on Tuesdays, a preaching course on Thursdays, and an introduction to diaconal ministry on Saturdays. Funny enough, yesterday’s diaconal class also happened to be on preaching. Although I probably shouldn’t be telling you that in case I do a bad job today! I was doing the reading for my Holy Spirit course a couple of weeks ago and I came across a prayer called the Sequence for Pentecost. I want to speak a part of it over us as we dive into today’s sermon: Come, oh Holy Spirit!Come, power of God and tender sweetness of God!Come, you who are both motion and rest!Renew our daring,Be our companion so that we will not feel lonely in this world.Create in us intimacy with God! In Jesus’s name we pray,Amen. II. It ain’t over ’til it’s over I don’t know if you can relate to this, but growing up, I was completely useless at sports. I know Pastor Roland can relate, but don’t tell him I said that. The only sport I was kind of okay at was soccer. One of the sayings I would always hear as a soccer player and fan was: “It ain’t over ’til it’s over.” I did some research this week and it turns out that the saying actually originates from baseball. A coach by the name of Yogi Berra is said to have used it in 1973 when his team — the New York Mets — was the lowest-ranked team in the National League. The Mets went on to win 21 of their subsequent 29 games and wound up winning the National League. The coach’s words proved 100% correct. It is indeed not over until it is over. You might be wondering why I’m telling you this story. The reason I’m telling you this story is because when I spent time in this morning’s Gospel passage throughout the week, I couldn’t help but think of Berra’s quote. The landowner in our passage hired men at 5pm for a job that had begun at 6am. Think about it. That’s quite remarkable. And, as we know, he ended up paying those men the same rate that he would later pay the earliest workers. I don’t know about you but, to me, this story screams: “It ain’t over ’til it’s over.” I would say that it’s pretty evident the landowner in this story represents God. You could also say that the land being worked represents the mission field. I am reminded of the sign above our main exit—You Are Now Entering the Mission Field. I don’t care if you’re 9 years old or 90 years old this morning, God is hiring for the mission field. That’s because we all have a job to do for His Kingdom. Our job is to spread the good news of Jesus Christ. III. MOTION & REST In today’s New Testament reading, we read words from a man — St. Paul — who dedicated his whole life to this mission: "For to me, living means living for Christ, and dying is even better. But if I live, I can do more fruitful work for Christ. So I really don’t know which is better. I’m torn between two desires: I long to go and be with Christ, which would be far better for me. But for your sakes, it is better that I continue to live. Knowing this, I am convinced that I will remain alive so I can continue to help all of you grow and experience the joy of your faith." There is a fascinating tension here. Paul longs to physically dwell with God in heaven. While he waits to be called home, however, he pairs his longing with labour. He goes on to describe himself in verse 27 as a “citizen of heaven.” He knows that he is no longer of this world. He knows that he now belongs entirely to God’s Kingdom. And yet, as he awaits his homecoming, he is focused on doing the King’s bidding here on earth. In this way, he mirrors the Lord Jesus Himself, who, being God in human flesh, certainly understood what it was like to be a foreigner in this world. He no doubt longed for heaven, even as He laboured here on its behalf. He showed us that the Christian life is one of longing and labouring for home. He missed being in the physical presence of His Father, but he had a job to do while He was on earth: to announce that the Kingdom of God is at hand. When it was finally time for Him to go home, He made sure to leave us a helper, His Holy Spirit, to aid us in our longing and labouring. Our opening prayer described the Holy Spirit as motion and rest. This is because the Spirit is the one who gives us motion for the labour we are called to do in the mission field, all while reminding us that the rest we ultimately long for is with our Heavenly Father. He helps us experience the power of God and the tender sweetness of God. He renews our daring and He is our companion so that we will not feel lonely in this world. All in all, He makes it possible to live the Christian life just like Christ did: Looking forward to heaven while proclaiming the Good News on earth. This brings me to my next point. What is this Good News we are called to proclaim on earth? The Bible says in Romans that “beautiful are the feet of messengers who bring good news.” But what is the good news we are meant to bring into the mission field? Isaiah 55:7… "Let the wicked change their ways and banish the very thought of doing wrong. Let them turn to the Lord that he may have mercy on them. Yes, turn to our God, for he will forgive generously." He will forgive generously. The good news, folks, is that God not only forgives us our sins, but He forgives generously. So generously that it is often difficult to for us to fully believe it. It sounds too good to be true. Luther understood our struggle for faith. He wrote in the Large Catechism: "Indeed, the human heart is by nature so hopeless that it always flees from God and imagines that He does not wish or desire our prayer, because we are sinners and have earned nothing but wrath. Against such thoughts, we should remember [the] commandment [to] turn to God, so that we may not stir up His anger more by such disobedience. For by this commandment God lets us plainly understand that He will not cast us away from Him or chase us away." He will not cast us away from Him or chase us away. This is amazing news. The language reminds me of King David’s prayer in today’s Psalm. "Do not turn your back on me.Do not reject your servant in anger.You have always been my helper.Don’t leave me now; don’t abandon me,O God of my salvation! He wanted God and he was aware that God wanted him: "The one thing I ask of the Lord— the thing I seek most— is to live in the house of the Lord all the days of my life, delighting in the Lord’s perfections and meditating in his Temple. My heart has heard you say, 'Come and talk with me.' And my heart responds, 'Lord, I am coming.'" And yet, He couldn’t quite rest in the truth. After all, He knew all too well what it was like to be rejected by family. (1 Samuel 16) He was wrestling with his demons, but the Spirit of God was upon Him and would show him the truth: "Even if my father and mother abandon me, the Lord will hold me close." This is the God who is calling you home today. He is waiting for you with open arms. And he wants to hold you close. Nicky Gumbel, one of the pioneers of the Alpha course, describes God as the “perfect parent” in his commentary on Psalm 27. He lists seven characteristics of God the Father: "His faithfulness is without question. His generosity is perfect. His affection is tender and loving. His presence is permanent. His acceptance of you is unconditional. His communication is up-building and for your best interest. His authority is right and true." Sin does separate us from Him. But Jesus came down to bridge the gap, to reveal God to us, and to pay for our sins once and for all, so that nothing can stand between us and the love of God. IV. The night is coming when no man can work Professor: There’s no point in writing anything in your 20s. When you’re young, you aren’t wise. You’re bursting with too much energy and enthusiasm. Thus, you aren’t rational. You can’t produce anything original and you’re going to make plenty of mistakes. To write well, wait another 15 to 20 years. Mircea Eliade: But, Professor, if I wait another 15 to 20 years, maybe I’ll be dead by then. It ain’t over ’til it’s over, but the work day does eventually come to an end. John chapter 9 tells us that the night is coming when no man can work. This applied to the labourers in the parable. Their work day ended at 6pm. It applied to St. Paul. And it applies to every single one of us. Today’s Old Testament reading encouraged us to (quote) "Seek the LORD while you can find him.Call on him now while he is near." "You must warn each other every day, while it is still “today,” so that none of you will be deceived by sin and hardened against God." (Hebrews 3:13) It is clear that God has appointed “today” for us to seek and to call on Him. There is an inherent urgency to His call on our lives. Whether you’re 9 years old or 90 years old today, the truth is that tomorrow is not promised. This is why today is the day to believe the Good News, to believe that it is not too good to be true, to enter into relationship with the God who loves you. And this is why today is also the day for every Christian among us to enter the mission field. V. Outro And as we are strangers and pilgrims on earth, help us to prepare for the world to come, doing the work which you have given us to do while it is day, before that night comes when no one can work. And, when our last hour shall come, support us by your power and receive us into your everlasting kingdom, where, with your Son our Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, you live and reign, God forever, Amen. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe (https://zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2)

4. 

   19 Sept 2026

   Ep.07: The Four Types of Gen Z Christians w/ Ben Christenson

   Ben Christenson (https://substack.com/profile/15476839-ben-christenson) is the Washington DC-based author of Living as Creatures (https://www.benjaminchristenson.com)—a Substack I have been faithfully reading for the better part of a year now. I reached out to him last Saturday afternoon about appearing on the podcast and we ended up recording our episode on Wednesday morning! Ben has become one of my favourite writers this year, and it was a pleasure to chat with him about his journey from Anglicanism to Eastern Orthodoxy (https://nypost.com/2024/12/03/us-news/young-men-are-converting-to-orthodox-christianity-in-droves/), his approach to cultural artifacts like books and movies, his philosophy of marriage, his writing career, and of course, the four types of young Christians he knows (https://www.benjaminchristenson.com/p/the-four-types-of-young-christians). Other Ben Pieces Discussed * “It’s Not Me: Obsession and the Horror of Self-Recognition (https://www.benjaminchristenson.com/p/its-not-me-obsession-and-the-horror)” * “Every Young Man’s (Real) Battle (https://inkwellct.substack.com/p/every-young-mans-real-battle)” with Inkwell (https://substack.com/profile/96027770-inkwell) * “COVID Taught Me How to Get Married (https://livingchurch.org/covenant/covid-taught-me-how-to-get-married/)” with The Living Church Books Mentioned * War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy (1867) * Harry Potter series by J.K. Rowling (1997-2007) * Twilight series by Stephanie Meyer (2005-2008) * The Pleasures of Reading in an Age of Distraction by Alan Jacobs (2011) * Welcome to the Orthodox Church: An Introduction to Eastern Christianity by Frederica Mathewes-Green (2015) * You Are What You Love: The Spiritual Power of Habit by James K.A. Smith (2016) Movies & TV Shows Mentioned * The Godfather by Francis Ford Coppola (1972) * Robin Hood by Wolfgang Reitherman (1973) * Pulp Fiction by Quentin Tarantino (1994) * Spy Kids by Robert Rodriguez (2001) * The Lord of the Rings trilogy by Peter Jackson (2001-2003) * How I Met Your Mother by Carter Bays and Craig Thomas (2005-2014) * High School Musical by Kenny Ortega (2006) * Transformers by Michael Bay (2007) * The Dark Knight by Christopher Nolan (2008) * Phantom Thread by Paul Thomas Anderson (2017) * Euphoria by Sam Levinson (2019-present) * Anora by Sean Baker (2024) This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe (https://zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2)

5. 

   12 Sept 2026

   Ep.06: Finding Life through Death w/ Dr. Andrew T.J. Kaethler

   Dr. Andrew T.J. Kaethler is an expert in theological anthropology who serves as the Executive Vice President and Benedict XVI Chair of Theology at Catholic Pacific College in Langley, British Columbia. He is also the author of The Eschatological Person: Alexander Schmemann and Joseph Ratzinger in Dialogue (https://www.amazon.ca/Eschatological-Person-Alexander-Schmemann-Ratzinger/dp/1666733717), published in 2022, as well as co-editor of Mapping the Una Sancta: Eastern and Western Ecclesiology in the Twenty-First Century (https://www.academia.edu/116848142/Mapping_the_Una_Sancta_Eastern_and_Western_Ecclesiology_in_the_Twenty_First_Century), which was published in 2023. That same year, I had the pleasure of taking a Theology of the Body class with him at CPC and would return a year later for his directed study on Eschatology and the Christian Life. This episode of Zoomed Out covers a lot of the same ground that these courses did. We also discuss monastic life, the difference between tradition and traditionalism, Dr. K’s favourite books, his favourite saints, and what it truly means to be a Christian—not to mention some excellent published articles he has written over the years (links below). Dr. K Articles Discussed * “Stability at the Heart of Culture: The Relevancy of the Benedictines and their Liturgical Life (https://adoremus.org/2026/01/stability-at-the-heart-of-culture-the-relevancy-of-the-benedictines-and-their-liturgical-life/)” with Adoremus Bulletin * “Eschatology: Dying to Live (https://humanumreview.com/articles/eschatology-dying-to-live)” with Humanum Review * “From Idol to Icon: Learning to See Through the Body (https://www.mdpi.com/2077-1444/16/8/1066)” with Religions Novels Mentioned * The Second Hell by Charles Williams (1929) * The Diary of a Country Priest by George Bernanos (1936) * The Great Divorce by C.S. Lewis (1945) * Laurus by Eugene Vodolazkin (2012) Nonfiction Works Mentioned * Confessions by St. Augustine of Hippo (397-400 AD) * The Dialogue of Divine Providence by St. Catherine of Siena (1377-1378) * Everlasting Man by G.K. Chesterton (1925) * Introduction to Christianity by Joseph Ratzinger (1968) * Man and Woman He Created Them by Pope John Paul II (1979-1984) * Searching for and Maintaining Peace by Fr. Jacques Philippe (2002) * Jesus of Nazareth: From the Baptism in the Jordan to the Transfiguration by Pope Benedict XVI (2007) * Time for God: A Guide to Mental Prayer by Fr. Jacques Philippe (2008) This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe (https://zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2)

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   18 May 2026

   Ep.05: Ashley Tumlin Wallace Meets Her Doppelgänger

   Ashley Tumlin Wallace (https://substack.com/profile/153554308-ashley-tumlin-wallace) writes “The Liturgical Home” (https://ashley315.substack.com) on Substack and is also the author of a book series (https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0BKR3ND97?binding=paperback&ref=dbs_dp_rwt_sb_pc_tpbk) by the same name. Sacha and friend of the podcast Ashley Galvin (https://zoomerfaith.substack.com/p/testimony-tuesday-with-ashley-galvin) were blessed to sit down with her — albeit virtually — to chat about liturgical living and her journey in, out of, and then back into the Anglican Way. This episode is also available to watch in full over on Substack (https://zoomerfaith.substack.com), and we hope that you will find it equal parts enjoyable and edifying! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe (https://zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2)

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   27 Apr 2026

   Ep.04: Navigating an Evolving Economy w/ Cole Claybourn

   Cole Douglas Claybourn (https://substack.com/profile/33729410-cole-douglas-claybourn) is a journalist whose work has appeared in the Washington Post, The Gospel Coalition, U.S. News, RELEVANT, Sports Spectrum and, most recently, Providence Magazine. He also hosts the “In No Hurry” podcast where he dialogues with creative professionals about how their faith interacts with their craft. Sacha had the pleasure of chatting with him recently about a variety of topics pertaining to life as a young person in North America. Their conversation touched on everything from today’s complicated job and dating markets to the state of the American dream in 2026. There will be no video version of this episode due to technical difficulties but the audio is now available on all platforms. We hope you will enjoy this latest episode of the Zoom Out Pod! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe (https://zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2)

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   29 Mar 2026

   Ep.03: How an Ancient Faith Roots a Restless Generation w/ Eddie LaRow

   A couple of Fridays ago, our friend Eddie LaRow (https://substack.com/profile/256954027-eddie-larow) welcomed his second child into the world. And this past Friday, he signed a book deal with Encounter Books for his upcoming After Progress: How an Ancient Faith Roots a Restless Generation. Amidst this exciting season for him, it was an absolute honour for us to host him on our podcast for the first time. We cover lots of ground in this episode—everything from the effects of modernity and Gen Z’s well-documented loneliness epidemic to looksmaxxing and the pornification of the parasocial through platforms like OnlyFans. Eddie does a brilliant job, as always, of communicating how the Gospel of Jesus Christ and His Church are the answer to every human ache that is betrayed by the various trends we discuss. You may access our full video interview (https://afterprogress.substack.com/cp/192455078) for free on his Substack. The audio version is also available either through our Substack or through your preferred podcast provider (Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/75I509pC90THrK0T9xzMj9) and Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/zoom-out-pod/id1871783788) included). We hope you will enjoy this conversation as much as we did! — Sacha and Dayton This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe (https://zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2)

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   24 Mar 2026

   Ep.02: Love, War, and the Mess in Between w/ Kiri Jane Erb

   Welcome back to the Zoom Out Pod! Our latest guest is Kiri Jane Erb. Kiri is an apologist, church planter and educator based on Vancouver Island, where she lives with her husband Josh and their three children. She is also the award-winning author of the newly released Love, War and the Mess in Between—a novel which manages to blend riveting historical fiction with incisive theological and philosophical reflections. We thoroughly enjoyed chatting with her about her writing process as well as unpacking the various themes in her book. You can buy it today wherever books are sold, although we recommend Indigo (https://www.indigo.ca/en-ca/love-war-and-the-mess-in-between/f96103ca-364e-36b5-af4e-6fcddd6f51a9.html?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMjU2MjgxMDQwNTU4AAGnIlZ7svkBy0afY-6ZeV8zLwkzCuDQbzZl_yJsTJBNY61wYNJ4qDFgX2dj8oU_aem_fcChKGYoLpOi01DC3w3fQA) for our Canadian listeners and Barnes and Noble (https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/love-war-and-the-mess-in-between-kiri-jane-erb/1148708960?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMjU2MjgxMDQwNTU4AAGnPaBpfAJUMCD-hk4Vz99lhIPFjiCbLx7jFNeOi8iuxzynKwY5RuH_vw_SZjM_aem_TyLU5LNDR_bnOrkR03B83g) for our American ones. Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Love-Mess-Between-Kiri-Jane/dp/B0G1RGDNFB/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2A0OHDG49NZ52&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.xIIB6isdhiwIwJfuirR7mRPwHbkw-bi2t72nZJudYm2m1oweMVYuqbPLN5I-nyfYk9ARnHpIoKBllaODAhNiNpRzkb9SZsnmIlfJDiA1-PnSmnMtpZHhOkFeTPLpp_TMikcsKsS5flWQkT2pCQLHv3jdJeD5Cv8bQmKb25OdGNr1fQTBf6gzUuk8i6a8fhfSQ09_KZ3mutwbfZGQygRM9uSq0PjwPw5lqrIEikF2Z1Y.qPEGHmXKZKH3NUpm39qFXs3Sy_jM7-0WQCLYzbG9mjA&dib_tag=se&keywords=love+war+and+the+mess+in+between&qid=1774231908&sprefix=love+war+and+the+mess+in+between%2Caps%2C166&sr=8-1) is also a great option no matter where you live. Finally, this episode’s video version is available through zoomerfaith.substack.com for our paid subscribers as per usual. We hope you will enjoy this conversation as much as we did! — Sach and Dayton This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe (https://zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2)

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    1 Mar 2026

    Ep.01: Shame, Solidarity, and the Saviour of our Souls w/ Fr. Chad Block

    “He drew me up from the desolate pit, out of the miry bog, and set my feet upon a rock, making my steps secure.” — Psalm 40:2 Welcome to the first actual interview on the Zoom Out Pod! Massive shoutouts to Elijah Croyle and Dave Rutatika for filming and recording this episode, as well as to Fr. Chad for sharing his heart and blessing us with godly wisdom. In the words of St. Augustine: “Eloquent speakers give pleasure, wise ones salvation.” As always, this episode’s audio is available to stream or download wherever you get your podcasts. The video episode (https://zoomerfaith.substack.com/p/ep01-shame-solidarity-and-the-saviour), meanwhile, is accessible in full via Substack (http://zoomerfaith.substack.com) for paid subscribers. We pray that this conversation will bless you at least as much as it blessed Sacha. Dayton also sends his love, and cannot wait to jump back into the action for episode two next month. Until then, Grace and Peace. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe (https://zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2)

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    24 Jan 2026

    Ep.00: Introducing the Zoom Out Pod

    First off, a massive thank-you to all the individuals who helped us release this first episode of the Zoom Out Pod! Standouts include: * Grey Zander (https://substack.com/profile/399783404-grey-zander), who put together the awesome jingle at the top of the episode * Jonah Kirkham (https://substack.com/profile/426582319-jonah-kirkham), who put together our logo’s design * Kyler McAlister (https://z00medin.substack.com/p/testimony-tuesday-with-kyler-mcalister) (Sacha’s roommate), who applied key finishing touches to the logo Secondly, as promised, below are the two passages Sacha referenced when talking about the Apostle Peter: For I handed on to you as of first importance what I in turn had received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures and that he was buried and that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. (1 Corinthians 15:3-5) That same hour they got up and returned to Jerusalem, and they found the eleven and their companions gathered together. They were saying, “The Lord has risen indeed, and he has appeared to Simon!” (Luke 24:33-34) And lastly, feel free to like, share, subscribe and comment down below if you enjoyed the episode! Until next time, Sach & Dayton This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe (https://zoomerfaith.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2)

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