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July 26, 2026
Dismantling the Legacies of Illiberalism Haunting the US: Zooming In With Jamelle Bouie, David French, Danielle Allen
<p><strong>Listen to </strong><strong>Zooming In </strong><strong>at</strong><strong> The UnPopulist</strong><strong> in your favorite podcast app: </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reactionary-minds-with-aaron-ross-powell/id1622086432"><strong>Apple Podcasts</strong></a><strong> | </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0mksPX2U4HIF2Xp8DXba5e?si=4058067422164a9e"><strong>Spotify</strong></a><strong> | </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9hcGkuc3Vic3RhY2suY29tL2ZlZWQvcG9kY2FzdC80NjEyODAucnNz"><strong>Google Podcasts</strong></a><strong> | </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://feeds.castos.com/m4vg8"><strong>RSS</strong></a><strong> | </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkoFvlXNn2KKOYJHBVJHyh7iEnc5dKw8l&si=vLyKqzcHzv7d-6HP"><strong>YouTube</strong></a></p><p>Welcome to this special live (of sorts) joint episode of the <a target="_blank" href="https://www.liberalism.org/podcast">liberalism.org show</a> and Zooming In at The UnPopulist. I am Aaron Ross Powell, senior director of liberal projects at the <a target="_blank" href="https://theihs.org">Institute for Humane Studies</a>, and I’m joined today by this esteemed panel. We have two of the most thoughtful columnists at The New York Times, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/jamelle-bouie?eafs_enabled=false">Jamelle Bouie</a> and <a target="_blank" href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/david-french?eafs_enabled=false">David French</a>. And we have Harvard University’s <a target="_blank" href="https://danielleallen.scholars.harvard.edu">Danielle Allen</a>.</p><p>© The UnPopulist, 2026</p><p>Follow us on <a target="_blank" href="https://bsky.app/profile/theunpopulist.net">Bluesky</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.threads.net/@unpopulistmag">Threads</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/@theunpopulist">YouTube</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@theunpopulist">TikTok</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.facebook.com/theunpopulist/">Facebook</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.instagram.com/unpopulistmag/">Instagram</a>, and <a target="_blank" href="https://x.com/UnPopulistMag">X</a>.</p><p>We welcome your reactions and replies. Please adhere to our <a target="_blank" href="https://www.theunpopulist.net/about#§comments-policy">comments policy</a>.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to The UnPopulist at <a href="https://www.theunpopulist.net/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4">www.theunpopulist.net/subscribe</a>

June 22, 2026
Trump Has Not Turned Americans Against Immigrants: A Conversation with Greg Sargent
<p>In this episode of Zooming In, The UnPopulist's editor-in-chief, Shikha Dalmia, talks with Greg Sargent of The New Republic about whether America has truly turned against immigration—or whether Trump's 2024 victory has been badly misread. Sargent argues that the election reflected a thermostatic, economy-driven backlash rather than a durable cultural shift, and that the past year and a half of mass deportations, ethnic purges, and high-profile cases like Kilmar Abrego Garcia's has snapped majorities back toward a consensus favoring legal pathways, humane treatment, and border security—but not Stephen Miller's vision of ethnic homogeneity. Along the way, Dalmia and Sargent dig into the thwarted history of comprehensive immigration reform, why a radical minority in the GOP has repeatedly blocked it, and the split among Democrats between the "salience bros" who counsel silence on immigration and those who see an opening to win the argument on favorable terms. They examine how figures like Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker and Texas Senate candidate James Talarico make the connection between immigration and authoritarianism in different registers, take apart David Frum's "if liberals won't enforce borders, fascists will" thesis, and close on why both believe the country's pro-immigrant, "shining city on a hill" ethos runs deeper than the populist rage of the last decade.</p><p>© The UnPopulist, 2026</p><p>Follow us on <a target="_blank" href="https://bsky.app/profile/theunpopulist.net">Bluesky</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.threads.net/@unpopulistmag">Threads</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/@theunpopulist">YouTube</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@theunpopulist">TikTok</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.facebook.com/theunpopulist/">Facebook</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.instagram.com/unpopulistmag/">Instagram</a>, and <a target="_blank" href="https://x.com/UnPopulistMag">X</a>.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to The UnPopulist at <a href="https://www.theunpopulist.net/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4">www.theunpopulist.net/subscribe</a>

June 14, 2026
The Trump Administration's Anti-Foreigner Animus Is a Betrayal of the World Cup—the Most Cosmopolitan Sport on Earth
<p>Welcome to Zooming In. I’m Berny Belvedere for The UnPopulist. The World Cup is finally here! It’s hosted by the United States, Mexico, and Canada. It’s the largest World Cup in history. On Thursday, Mexico kicked off the competition by beating South Africa 2-0, and the U.S. followed that up the next day with possibly its best-ever performance in the World Cup, a thoroughly convincing smackdown of Paraguay. Both Mexico and the U.S. started really strong and have their fanbases dreaming of World Cup glory.</p><p>On Wednesday, the eve of the cup, I sat down with León Krauze, contributing columnist at The Washington Post and host of the <a target="_blank" href="https://www.instagram.com/enboca_deleon/">Boca de León</a> podcast, to discuss the great tournament. Our focus wasn’t so much the soccer aspect of it all—but rather how this World Cup, thanks to Donald Trump’s anti-immigrant maximalism, has in some key ways betrayed its own promise.</p><p>What makes León the perfect guest for this episode is that not only has he extensively covered the sport of soccer, including the history of Mexican soccer—but he’s also a leading commentator on U.S.-Latin American relations.</p><p>In our time together, we covered a number of incidents that are quite troubling. A FIFA referee from Somalia was detained at a U.S. airport and sent home. Iran’s federation had its ticket allocation pulled days before their first match—and the squad has had to relocate its base in Mexico. The acting ICE director [Todd Lyons] <a target="_blank" href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ice-director-wont-commit-pausing-211158824.html">told</a> Congress he wouldn’t rule out arrests at stadiums, contradicting the <a target="_blank" href="https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/blog/world-cup-ice-visas-iran/">assurance</a> that Secretary of State [Marco Rubio] had given Miami’s own host committee a week earlier. And Amnesty International published a report <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amnestyusa.org/reports/humanity-must-win-defending-rights-tackling-repression-at-the-2026-fifa-world-cup/">calling</a> the United States, on the eve of the world’s party, a country facing a “human rights emergency.”</p><p>There was so much to cover we didn’t even get to everything. Iran’s players were issued visas only after being warned not to abuse the system, then ordered off American soil the same day as each of their matches. These are professional athletes that the U.S. is telling: “Don’t stay the night on U.S. soil.” In another instance, a Moroccan player was held up and nearly denied entry at a U.S. airport, reportedly due to his father’s appearance—specifically, his beard. Although DHS says ICE won’t be deployed for immigration enforcement at venues, its new secretary, Markwayne Mullin, said before the cup that “ICE is always going to do immigration enforcement.” Germany’s football federation has actually issued an official advisory to its own players to stay quiet on politics at this tournament. And looming over all of it: FIFA, under Trump’s personal friend Gianni Infantino, invented a “FIFA Peace Prize” out of thin air and handed it to Trump, who was sad over not winning the Nobel Peace Prize.</p><p>In our conversation, we hope the following comes through: We couldn’t be more excited for our favorite sporting event to get underway, but we couldn’t be more disappointed in how the build up to this tournament has in some ways proceeded in direct contradiction to how it was initially sold.</p><p>We hope you enjoy.</p><p>Thanks for reading The UnPopulist! Subscribe to support our project.</p><p>© The UnPopulist, 2026</p><p>Follow us on <a target="_blank" href="https://bsky.app/profile/theunpopulist.net">Bluesky</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.threads.net/@unpopulistmag">Threads</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/@theunpopulist">YouTube</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@theunpopulist">TikTok</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.facebook.com/theunpopulist/">Facebook</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.instagram.com/unpopulistmag/">Instagram</a>, and <a target="_blank" href="https://x.com/UnPopulistMag">X</a>.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to The UnPopulist at <a href="https://www.theunpopulist.net/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4">www.theunpopulist.net/subscribe</a>
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