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April 11, 2025
3. 咩咩×旺仔：当社恐成为营销编辑，又去讲脱口秀
<p>今天是2025年的第一期节目，我们邀请来的朋友是做書公众号的常驻嘉宾旺仔。作为一个i人营销编辑，旺仔最初是在小红书上连载“当社恐成为营销编辑”的故事，而后在做書长期供稿，写出了《营销编辑恐怖故事集》《关于营销编辑是李大嘴的21个证据》《甄嬛传之浣碧勇闯出版社》等推文。</p><p>在这期播客中，我们会和旺仔聊聊她在进入出版社工作前后的故事。作为时而崩溃时而愤怒的营销编辑，作为签约作者，作为脱口秀选手，作为一个时刻记录自己、在与生活不断的碰撞中创造独特自我体验的人，她如何建构自己的“乐子”叙事？她对于想进入出版行业的人，有什么想要说的话？</p><p>02:10 在小红书上连载“当社恐成为营销编辑”的原因？</p><p>08:00 成为营销编辑：做乙方的乙方？</p><p>24:20 985本+港硕毕业：投了好几家出版社都被拒绝？</p><p>33:50 我想我可以坦白，我从没爱过这个行业</p><p>46:18 成为作者：人需要做主角 </p>
February 21, 2023
2.《隐语》做书故事：内向是写作者的天赋
<p>做書小酒馆的第二期我们请到了人民文学最近出版的短篇小说集《隐语》的作者和编辑。</p><p>编辑在读这本小说集的那周，北京下了23年的第一场雪，阳光被雪地反射后照在书页上变成了冷冷的银光，就像这本小说中讲述的那些年轻人的故事，在沉默的冰面下隐隐发着光。</p><p>借着作者薛超伟来北京参加新书发布会的机会我们邀请他和编辑郭婷来书店，我们聊了聊他们寂寞的相遇、漫长的做书、彼此的困惑与坚持......那些隐没在书背后的人与事。</p><p>欢迎您来听！</p><p><strong>/主持人/</strong></p><p>书婷、公园</p><p><strong>/嘉宾/</strong></p><p>薛超伟 青年作家</p><p>郭婷 编辑</p><p><strong>/时间轴/</strong></p><p>03:00 作者和编辑的相遇</p><p>06:05 彼此的第一印象“慌张而坚定的人”</p><p>09:20 担心“社恐”的营销标签会狭窄这部丰富的作品</p><p>11:00 作品中有自我的投射，也在努力把作者择出纸面</p><p>13:50 寂寞的写作者</p><p>15:50 创作的“方法论”</p><p>23:35 漫长而坚决的做书过程</p><p>31:18 内向小孩也有无数的样子</p><p>34:30 坚定而摇摇晃晃走在写作的道路上</p><p>45:20 内向小孩慌慌张张长大</p><p>49:42 写作者如何面对外界的声音</p><p>56:10 “他把你内心绵密的想法像扯线头一样扯出来，再轻轻放回去。”</p><p>59:59 擅长在文字中埋进谜语、机锋与残酷</p><p>01:09:12 《隐语》值得一读！</p><figure><img src="https://image.xyzcdn.net/Fgc95PmgD-aeMUpVtHrL5L4keQnQ.jpg"/></figure>
November 20, 2022
1.小品牌与独立编辑二三事
<p>做書小酒馆终于有了第一期节目！算上前面黄了的三期，这其实是第四期了。</p><p>趁着明室两位主创在京，我们喊来了铸刻的陈凌云老师，就小品牌的创立、营销、门槛、条件等一些话题聊了聊。</p><p>主持：刘松，做書主理人之一</p><p>嘉宾：</p><p>陈希颖，明室创始人、主编</p><p>赵磊，明室副主编</p><p>陈凌云，铸刻文化创始人</p><p>02:00 我们是怎么走上创业道路的</p><p>04:49 二十年前的新编辑培训</p><p>16:01 “一分钟经理人”和编辑幸福感</p><p>19:02 聊到了虚荣心——编辑事业的核心动力</p><p>22:26 老生常谈的话题——对书的热情</p><p>24:55 聊到了怎么算账的问题，聊了聊新公司怎么买版权</p><p>36:12 吐槽了一下短视频带货</p><p>40:15 大众还是小众</p><p>43:22 书系的视觉管理</p><p>48:02 需要多少钱？看你做不做印刷</p><p>51:10 在中国做代理人行得通吗</p><p>54:41 独立策划人的几个例子</p><p>01:07:30 自己干需要哪些条件？版权积累</p><p>01:12:22 不想着做畅销书，就不容易亏</p><p>01:13:29 做不做印刷，这是一个问题</p><p>01:15:41 关于合作方的推荐</p><p>01:19:05 中国的读者数量有多少？参考百年孤独</p><p>01:24:13 小品牌的最大优势：快，不受约束</p><p>01:30:06 品牌重要吗？</p><p>01:39:33 最后的话</p>
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