School leadership is messy, meaningful, & anything but easy. Hosted by Erika Bare & Tiffany Burns, long-time school leaders & authors of Connecting Through Conversation: A Playbook for Talking with Students & A School Leader’s Playbook for Tough Conversations, this podcast dives into the toughest moments educators face. From staff conflict & caregiver communication to power struggles & student behavior, it focuses on conversations that drive performance, behavior, & culture. With honesty & humor, Erika & Tiffany share what works, what doesn’t, & how to navigate the moments that shape school.
A School Leader’s Playbook by Connecting Through Conversation
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School leadership is messy, meaningful, & anything but easy. Hosted by Erika Bare & Tiffany Burns, long-time school leaders & authors of Connecting Through Conversation: A Playbook for Talking with Students & A School Leader’s Playbook for Tough Conversations, this podcast dives into the toughest moments educators face. From staff conflict & caregiver communication to power struggles & student behavior, it focuses on conversations that drive performance, behavior, & culture. With honesty & humor, Erika & Tiffany share what works, what doesn’t, & how to navigate the moments that shape school.
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June 20, 2026
Connecting Through Conflict
<p><strong>Episode 6: Connecting Through Conflict</strong></p><p>Conflict can quickly shift a conversation from problem-solving to protecting positions. When that happens, it becomes easy to see the other person as the problem instead of staying focused on the issue you are trying to solve together.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, we focus on practical strategies school leaders can use to stay connected during conflict, communicate with clarity, and keep conversations productive—even when perspectives differ.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>In this episode, you will learn:</strong></p><ul><li>Why non-verbal communication often shapes a conversation before a word is spoken</li><li>How physical positioning, eye contact, and environment can influence conflict</li><li>Why conflict boundaries help keep conversations focused on the problem instead of the person</li><li>How to avoid common traps like bringing in unrelated issues or taking conversational detours</li><li>How to use the "Share Your Story, Ask for Theirs" strategy from Crucial Conversations to communicate your perspective while remaining curious about someone else's</li><li>How to identify different logic styles and adjust your communication accordingly</li><li>Why tempering your claims can reduce defensiveness and invite dialogue</li><li>How to move conversations toward resolution with clear next steps and follow-up</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Sentence stems to share your story and ask for theirs:</strong></p><ul><li>When you said _____, I was telling myself a story that _____. Is that what you were thinking?</li><li>When I saw _____, I was telling myself a story that _____. Can you walk me through what happened?</li><li>When _____ happened, I was telling myself a story about your reasons. Can you help me understand?</li><p><br></p></ul><p><strong>Sentence stems during conflict:</strong></p><ul><li>I am wondering...</li><li>Could it be...</li><li>Is that right?</li><li>Help me understand...</li><li>Moving forward...</li><li>Nevertheless...</li><li>And yet...</li><li>Even so...</li><li>All that being said...</li><p><br></p></ul><p>Part of a 6-episode playbook for the toughest conversations school leaders face.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Resources:</strong><br><a href="https://www.connectingthroughconversation.com/resources">https://www.connectingthroughconversation.com/resources</a></p><p><strong>Learn more about our books:</strong><br><a href="https://www.connectingthroughconversation.com/our-book">https://www.connectingthroughconversation.com/our-book</a></p>
June 20, 2026
Keep Your Cool When the Heat Is On — De-escalation Moves in the Moment
<p><strong>Episode 5: Keep Your Cool When the Heat Is On — De-escalation Moves in the Moment</strong></p><p>Conversations can escalate quickly. A concern becomes frustration. Frustration becomes conflict. And in those moments, what you do next can either calm the situation or make it worse.</p><p>In this episode, we focus on practical strategies school leaders can use in the moment to de-escalate tension, stay grounded, and keep communication moving forward.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>In this episode, you will learn:</strong></p><ul><li>Why staying calm matters when emotions run high</li><li>How curiosity can help de-escalate conflict and uncover what is really going on</li><li>How to use looping for understanding, a strategy described by Amanda Ripley in High Conflict, to help people feel heard and understood</li><li>Why summarizing what you heard and checking for understanding can reduce tension and build trust</li><li>How partnership language keeps people on the same team during difficult conversations</li></ul><p><strong>Sentence stems to diffuse a situation:</strong></p><ul><li>I hear you.</li><li>I've made a note of that.</li><li>Let me make sure I got this right.</li><li>This is super important.</li><li>I am so glad you brought this concern to me.</li><li>I am taking this very seriously.</li><li>I am so sorry this happened.</li><li>We are working to ensure nothing like this happens again.</li><li>I would be upset too if that is what I was told.</li></ul><p><strong>Sentence stems during conflict:</strong></p><ul><li>Thanks for partnering with me on this.</li><li>We both want the same thing.</li><li>Let's work through this together.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Part of a 6-episode playbook for the toughest conversations school leaders face.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Resources:</strong><br><a href="https://www.connectingthroughconversation.com/resources">https://www.connectingthroughconversation.com/resources</a></p><p><strong>Learn more about our books:</strong><br><a href="https://www.connectingthroughconversation.com/our-book">https://www.connectingthroughconversation.com/our-book</a></p>
April 26, 2026
When People Get Mad, Get Curious
<p>You’re in the conversation and it turns. Someone is frustrated. Maybe their voice gets louder. Maybe they shut down. Maybe they come at you.</p><p>And in that moment, it is easy to react or defend.</p><p>In this episode, we focus on what to do instead. Because when someone gets mad, there is usually something underneath it. And if you can listen for that, you can get to the real issue and move the conversation forward.</p><p><strong>In this episode, you will learn:</strong></p><ul><li>Why anger is often a signal of something deeper</li><li>How to listen for what is underneath the reaction</li><li>Why you cannot control others but you can control yourself</li><li>How to identify a common purpose to move the conversation forward</li><li>The difference between positions and the real problem underneath</li><li>How to use partnership language to stay on the same team</li><li>Why focusing forward matters more than rehashing the past</li></ul><p><strong>Sentence stems to identify the real issue:</strong></p><ul><li>What would a resolution to this situation look like for you?</li><li>How can I support you?</li><li>What does support look like in this situation?</li><li>What would be most helpful to move forward?</li></ul><p><strong>Part of a 6-episode playbook for the toughest conversations school leaders face.</strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Resources:</strong><br><a href="https://www.connectingthroughconversation.com/resources" target="_new" rel="noopener">https://www.connectingthroughconversation.com/resources</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Learn more about our books:</strong><br><a href="https://www.connectingthroughconversation.com/our-book" target="_new" rel="noopener">https://www.connectingthroughconversation.com/our-book</a></p>
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