Ahead of the Threat confronts some of the biggest questions in cyber: How will emerging technology impact corporate America? How can corporate boards be structured for cyber resilience? What does the FBI think about generative artificial intelligence? Listen to new episodes biweekly and stay ahead of the threat. Listen to the episodes, read transcripts, and find related material at fbi.gov/aheadofthethreat. The FBI Cyber Division is on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/company/fbicyber.
Ahead of the Threat Podcast: Season 2, Episode 7: Richard Horne
FBI's Brett Leatherman interviews NCSC CEO Richard Horne about global cyber threats and ransomware readiness, while Kathryn Sherman shares her FBI cyber attaché experiences.
6 May 2026
Ahead of the Threat Podcast: Season 2, Episode 6: Deneen DeFiore
FBI Cyber Assistant Director Brett Leatherman interviews United Airlines CISO Deneen DeFiore about aviation cybersecurity resilience and collective protection against evolving threats.
25 Mar 2026
Ahead of the Threat Podcast: Season 2, Episode 5 — Joe Levy
FBI Cyber Division head Brett Leatherman interviews Sophos CEO Joe Levy about Operation Winter SHIELD and cybersecurity challenges, offering actionable insights for listeners.
25 Mar 2026
Ahead of the Threat Podcast: Season 2, Episode 4 — Sherrod DeGrippo
FBI Cyber's Brett Leatherman interviews Microsoft's Sherrod DeGrippo about Operation Winter SHIELD and AI's role in cybersecurity.
11 Mar 2026
Ahead of the Threat Podcast: Season 2, Episode 3 — Amy Herzog
Host Brett Leatherman interviews Amy Herzog, CISO and vice president of Amazon Web Services, about cybersecurity as a business imperative and the fundamentals of protecting organizations.
24 Feb 2026
Ahead of the Threat Podcast: Season 2, Episode 2: John Hammond
Cybersecurity expert John Hammond discusses hacking trends and IT equipment inventory with host Brett Leatherman in an interview, highlighting the importance of basic cybersecurity measures.
4 Feb 2026
Ahead of the Threat Podcast: Season 2, Episode 1: John Hultquist
FBI Assistant Director Brett Leatherman interviews Google Threat Intelligence Chief Analyst John Hultquist about building cyber resilience and leveraging AI against evolving threats.
28 Jan 2026
Ahead of the Threat Podcast: Season 2, Episode 0: Brett Leatherman
FBI Assistant Director Brett Leatherman interviews industry experts about the current cyber threat landscape and strategies to defend against attacks.
21 May 2025
Ahead of the Threat Podcast - Episode Ten - Hugh Thompson
FBI Cyber Podcast hosts Bryan Vorndran and Jamil Farshchi interview RSAC executive chairman Dr. Hugh Thompson about fostering year-round cybersecurity collaboration and community.
29 Apr 2025
Ahead of the Threat Podcast - Episode Nine - Meredith Griffanti
FTI's Meredith Griffanti shares insights on cybersecurity crisis communications with FBI's Bryan Vorndran and Jamil Farshchi, highlighting common pitfalls and evolving industry attitudes.
26 Mar 2025
Ahead of the Threat Podcast: Episode Eight - Scott Aaronson
Class is in session! Professor Scott Aaronson, a leading researcher in quantum computers, takes time away from his teaching at the University of Texas at Austin to give Ahead of the Threat a detailed overview of quantum theory and the applications of what a quantum computer could do—when one is invented. Though a real quantum computer remains unlikely for a few more years, its potential to unravel nearly all known encryption has led to the development of post-quantum encryption to protect sensitive data. In the episode’s Top Three segment that highlights current cybersecurity news, hosts Bryan Vorndran, assistant director of the FBI’s Cyber Division, and Jamil Farshchi, FBI strategic engagement advisor, discuss Google’s acquisition of the cloud computing company Wiz for $32 billion; the European Union's Artificial Intelligence Act, and a new ransomware attack at Jaguar Land Rover. You can read an FBI Joint Cybersecurity Advisory on Medusa Ransomware at cisa.gov/news-events/cybersecurity-advisories/aa25-071a. You can also read NIST’s Post-Quantum Cryptography Standardization Overview at csrc.nist.gov/projects/post-quantum-cryptography. Listen to Ahead of the Threat episodes, read the transcripts, and find related material at fbi.gov/aheadofthethreat.
12 Feb 2025
Ahead of the Threat Podcast: Episode Seven - Paul Proctor
Paul Proctor, a Gartner analyst for 20 years, joins the show to discuss practical approaches businesses can apply to make cybersecurity more effective. Through thousands of hours of outreach, Proctor sees a broken system that can improve with better communication and partnership between executives and chief information security officers to create strategies based on 'outcome-driven metrics.' One example is identifying the cost to return systems online in a specific time frame following a breach, while understanding that cutting funds to that effort jeopardizes the timeline. Hosts Bryan Vorndran, assistant director of the FBI’s Cyber Division, and Jamil Farshchi, FBI strategic engagement advisor, discuss the importance of cybersecurity 'fundamentals' and how measured approaches can lead to more success in a field more complicated than many think. Commenting on current events in the 'Top Three' segment, Vorndran and Farshchi highlight DeepSeek AI, the new updates to United HealthGroup’s breach, and new reporting requirements for critical infrastructure cyber incidents (Cyber Incident Reporting for Critical Infrastructure Act, or CIRCIA). Listen to Ahead of the Threat episodes, read the transcripts, and find related material at fbi.gov/aheadofthethreat.
15 Jan 2025
Ahead of the Threat Podcast: Episode Six - Charles Carmakal
For our first episode of 2025, Charles Carmakal joins the show to discuss all things Scattered Spider. As the chief technology officer at Mandiant, Charles details a disturbing trend of compromises through seemingly unsophisticated, yet highly effective approaches, including hackers who trick organization help desks into granting them system access. Hosts Bryan Vorndran, the assistant director of the FBI's Cyber Division, and Jamil Farshchi, an FBI strategic engagement advisor, discuss mitigation techniques that companies, such as Mandiant, recommend to clients. In the episode’s Top Three segment, Bryan and Jamil discuss the breaches of BeyondTrust and Data School and give an update on Salt Typhoon. Listen to Ahead of the Threat episodes, read the transcripts, and find related material at fbi.gov/aheadofthethreat.
18 Dec 2024
Ahead of the Threat Podcast: Episode Five - Rachel Lavender
For our last episode until 2025, FBI Assistant Director Bryan Vorndran and FBI Strategic Engagement Advisor Jamil Farshchi speak to Rachel Lavender, managing director of the cyber practice at Marsh McLennan. As a seasoned cyber-insurance broker, Rachel discusses the partnership between a company and a cyber-insurance service, working together to build and implement effective cybersecurity measures over time. She also highlights act-of-war clauses and the growing information the insurance industry has obtained in a short time by servicing victim clients, resulting in better coverage and recommendations. For the episode’s Top Three segment recounting recent events, Bryan and Jamil discuss the unsealing of charges against members of Scattered Spider, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission’s cybersecurity reporting rules, and reasonably managed encryption. Listen to Ahead of the Threat episodes, read the transcripts, and find related material at fbi.gov/aheadofthethreat.
4 Dec 2024
Ahead of the Threat Podcast: Episode Four - Wendi Whitmore
This week on Ahead of the Threat, FBI Assistant Director Bryan Vorndran and FBI Strategic Engagement Advisor Jamil Farshchi speak to Wendi Whitmore, senior vice president of Palo Alto Networks’ Unit 42. Drawing on her experience with cyber threat intelligence and incident response, Wendi talks about the growing sophistication of the cybercriminal business model and the need to have visibility across all company networks and infrastructure. She also highlights a growing trend in which companies have a “pre-built” environment that they would potentially move towards in case of a cyberattack. At the start of the episode, Bryan and Jamil discuss trending topics like the North Korean information technology worker threat, the Blue Yonder compromise, and the latest social engineering scheme from the cybercriminal group Black Basta. Listen to Ahead of the Threat episodes, read the transcripts, and find related material at fbi.gov/aheadofthethreat.
20 Nov 2024
Ahead of the Threat Podcast: Episode Three - Chris Cwalina
On this episode of Ahead of the Threat, FBI Assistant Director Bryan Vorndran and FBI Strategic Engagement Advisor Jamil Farshchi speak to Chris Cwalina, global head of cybersecurity and privacy at Norton Rose Fulbright. Chris and his team of lawyers advise clients on how to minimize damage from sophisticated data breaches and cybersecurity incidents. Chris reveals why many companies have a false sense of readiness and security before a breach. He also talks about fostering a security culture and the importance of having clear lines of decision-making when it comes to risk management. At the start of the episode, Bryan and Jamil discuss trending topics like the Fortinet VPN zero-day, the extradition of the Phobos ransomware administrator, and the sentencing of U.S.-based co-conspirators behind the Bitfenix cryptocurrency exchange theft. Listen to Ahead of the Threat episodes, read the transcripts, and find related material at fbi.gov/aheadofthethreat.
6 Nov 2024
Ahead of the Threat Podcast: Episode Two - Kevin Mandia
On this episode of Ahead of the Threat, FBI Assistant Director Bryan Vorndran and FBI Strategic Engagement Advisor Jamil Farshchi speak to Kevin Mandia, founder and CEO of Mandiant, one of the world’s leading cyberthreat intelligence and incident-response firms. Drawing on his vast industry experience, Kevin talks about game-changing breaches and the history of cybersecurity, the increasing prevalence of voice cloning and other artificial intelligence tools in social engineering schemes, and the changing role of the chief information security officer (CISO). Kevin also shares the top four questions every CEO or corporate board should ask their CISO to assess cyber readiness. At the start of the episode, Bryan and Jamil discuss trending topics like Sophos’ acquisition of Secureworks, the cyberattack on American Water, and the new CISO hire at UnitedHealth Group. Listen to Ahead of the Threat episodes, read the transcripts, and find related material at fbi.gov/aheadofthethreat.
23 Oct 2024
Ahead of the Threat Podcast: Episode One — Aron Ain
In December 2021, UKG Kronos was hit with a ransomware attack that impacted thousands of business customers. On this episode of Ahead of the Threat, FBI Assistant Director Bryan Vorndran and FBI Strategic Engagement Advisor Jamil Farshchi speak to Aron Ain, former CEO and current executive chair at UKG, who gives a firsthand account of what it’s like to lead a multinational technology company during a major cyber incident. Learn how Aron handled the extreme pressure of the situation, prioritized transparency to rebuild customer trust, and made enduring structural reforms to supply-chain security and cybersecurity at the board level.
At the start of the episode, Bryan and Jamil discuss trending topics like Iran’s brazen effort to interfere in the 2024 U.S. presidential election, the Salt Typhoon hack of U.S. telecoms, and recent supply chain compromises.
Watch FBI Director Christopher Wray’s announcement on the Iranian election interference indictment at fbi.gov/video-repository/director-wray-on-indictment-of-iranian-cyber-actors-092724.mp4/view. You can read the indictment itself at justice.gov/opa/pr/three-irgc-cyber-actors-indicted-hack-and-leak-operation-designed-influence-2024-us.
Listen to Ahead of the Threat episodes, read the transcripts, and find related material at fbi.gov/aheadofthethreat.
16 Oct 2024
Ahead of the Threat Podcast: Episode Zero
Welcome to Ahead of the Threat, the FBI's new podcast miniseries that brings together an FBI cyber executive and a private sector chief information security officer. Join Bryan Vorndran, assistant director of the FBI’s Cyber Division, and Jamil Farshchi, a strategic engagement advisor for the FBI who also works as an executive vice president and CISO of Equifax, as they discuss emerging cyber threats and the enduring importance of cybersecurity fundamentals.
Featuring distinguished guests from the business world and government, Ahead of the Threat will confront some of the biggest questions in cyber: How will emerging technology impact corporate America? How can corporate boards be structured for cyber resilience? What does the FBI think about generative artificial intelligence? Listen to new episodes biweekly and stay Ahead of the Threat.
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Richard Horne
Kathryn Sherman
Deneen DeFiore
Todd Hemmen
Joe Levy
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