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Axiom Insights on Legal Services

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As the leading alternative legal services provider globally, Axiom Law gives in-house legal teams on-demand access to top legal talent and lawyers—deployed when, where, and how clients need it—for up to 50% less than national law firms. Axiom's network of 14,000+ legal professionals includes 4,000+ lawyers with Fortune 500 experience, delivering AI-enabled legal services across more than 12 practice areas: M&A, regulatory compliance, data privacy, labor and employment, technology and AI, and more. Engagements range from legal secondments and complex project support to fully embedded team solutions. The results speak for themselves. Trusted by 75% of the Fortune 100 and thousands of mid-market leaders, Axiom ranks #1 among Alternative Legal Service Providers in 8 of 9 performance categories— including talent quality, breadth, productivity, and client experience—according to a top 5 global consulting firm. Across more than 3,000 engagements annually in 6 regions and 4 continents, 93% of clients rate Axiom lawyers as good as or better than top law firm attorneys, with 96% client satisfaction and measurable cost savings that reduce outside counsel spend without sacrificing quality. Stop overpaying for law firm work. Start with Axiom. For more information, visit www.axiomlaw.com.

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Episode thumbnail for Is Your AI Strategy Built on Shaky Data?

May 5, 2026

Is Your AI Strategy Built on Shaky Data?

<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Rob Keller, Associate General Counsel at Cisco, joins Sara Morgan, CRO at Axiom and host of today's Axiom Insights show, to make a counterintuitive case: Data governance is legally more significant than AI itself.</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Overseeing Cisco's product legal for $24B in annual revenue, Rob explains why GCs should prioritize overlapping EU regulations without stalling launches, why legal should be involved in product development years earlier, what good AI vendor diligence looks like, and two near-term items GCs should ensure they're not missing: California AB 2013 and EU high-risk AI use case directives, due this summer.</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Cisco's legal department exceeds 500 professionals and fields dedicated AI governance and government compliance teams—a scale that's clearly pushing the upper-end of in-house legal functions. For leaner legal departments navigating the same regulatory wave, Rob recommends leaning on outside expertise and scaling up through partner resources for high-volume compliance work: contract review, repapering, and policy updates. Today's episode also addresses how geopolitical instability is reshaping data sovereignty strategy globally.</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Show Panelists</strong></span></p> <ul> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertkellerjdmba/"> Rob Keller, Senior Director of Legal and Associate General Counsel, Cisco</a></span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sara-morgan-b54a3a1a/"> Sara Morgan, Chief Revenue Officer, Axiom</a></span></li> </ul> <p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Key Topics</strong></span></p> <ol> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Why data governance is more legally significant than AI, despite all the AI noise</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">How to sequence EU regulatory compliance without stalling product launches</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Why legal must enter product development years before launch, not at the 11th hour</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">What GCs should demand in AI vendor contracts to protect data and mitigate training risk</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">How geopolitical instability is forcing a rethink of data sovereignty and cloud strategy</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The near-term regulations GCs are underestimating when compliance is due, and how to get ready</span></li> </ol> <p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Episode Resources</strong></span></p> <ul> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Visit Cisco's website (<a href= "https://www.cisco.com/">https://www.cisco.com</a>)</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Learn more about Technology & AI at Axiom (<a href= "https://www.axiomlaw.com/practice-areas/technology-ai">https://www.axiomlaw.com/practice-areas/technology-ai</a>)</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <!-- [if !supportLists]--><!--[endif]-->Learn more about Data Privacy & Cybersecurity at Axiom (<a href= "https://www.axiomlaw.com/practice-areas/data-privacy-cybersecurity">https://www.axiomlaw.com/practice-areas/data-privacy-cybersecurity</a>)</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <!-- [if !supportLists]--><!--[endif]-->Learn more about Regulatory & Compliance at Axiom (<a href= "https://www.axiomlaw.com/practice-areas/regulatory-compliance">https://www.axiomlaw.com/practice-areas/regulatory-compliance</a>)</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <!-- [if !supportLists]--><!--[endif]-->Learn more about Axiom Tech+Talent (<a href= "https://www.axiomlaw.com/solutions/tech-plus-talent">https://www.axiomlaw.com/solutions/tech-plus-talent</a>)</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <!-- [if !supportLists]--><!--[endif]-->Visit AxiomLaw.com (<a href="https://www.axiomlaw.com">https://www.axiomlaw.com</a>)</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;">Subscribe to the Axiom Insights Podcast (<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/axiom-insights-on-legal-services/id1842354058">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/axiom-insights-on-legal-services/id1842354058</a>)</span></li> </ul> <p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">DISCLAIMER: The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of Rob Keller in his personal capacity and do not represent or reflect the views, positions, or official statements of Cisco Systems, Inc. or any of its affiliates.</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">DISCLAIMER: Axiom is a provider of legal talent and is not a law firm, and does not provide legal advice. The information contained in these videos is merely legal information, not advice. Our clients' legal teams supervise the legal work of the Axiom lawyer. Viewing this video does not create an attorney/client relationship.</span></p>

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April 6, 2026

How to Think About AI: Richard Susskind on What General Counsel Need to Know Now

<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Richard Susskind, world-renowned author of "How to Think About AI," joins Axiom's Daniel Hayter and CJ Saretto for a lively discussion on how AGI will shape the future of lawyers and legal work. Susskind argues GCs must run short-term efficiency programs while building parallel teams planning for the 2030s—when AI moves legal expertise inside the product, not the department, and law firms' clients become the competition. His call to action: Stop automating existing work; build systems that eliminate the need for it.</span></p> <p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Susskind draws on 45 years in AI and research across eight professions to frame legal as among the most technology-resistant fields and the most exposed. He introduces "incremental transformation" as a planning framework, previews compliance becoming embedded in operational systems, and offers a practical starting point: mandate daily AI use before investing in formal pilots; lean in.</span></p> <h2><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Show Panelists</span></h2> <ul> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;"><a href="https://www.richardsusskind.com/" rel= "noopener">Richard Susskind</a>, Author, Speaker & Independent Adviser; President, Society for Computers and Law; Professor, Oxford University and Strathclyde University</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/danhayter/" rel="noopener">Daniel Hayter</a>, Managing Director & VP of Europe, Axiom</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cjsaretto/" rel="noopener">CJ Saretto</a>, Chief Technology Officer, Axiom</span></li> </ul> <h2><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Key Topics </span></h2> <ol style="list-style-type: decimal;"> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;"> Why GCs should plan for AGI now—even if its arrival remains uncertain </span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;"> How short-term AI efficiency gains differ fundamentally from 2030s legal transformation </span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;"> What "preventative lawyering" means and why in-house teams should build toward it </span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;"> Why in-house legal departments, not law firms, are leading AI adoption today </span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;"> How GCs can assess whether a law firm's AI commitment is genuine or just PR </span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;"> When human supervision of AI systems may no longer make sense for legal work</span></li> </ol> <p><strong><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <span style= "color: #1c222e; letter-spacing: -0.25px; background-color: transparent;">Episode Resources</span></span></strong></p> <ul> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Richard Susskind's website (<a href= "https://www.susskind.com">https://www.susskind.com</a>)</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Richard Susskind's latest book: How to Think About AI: A Guide for the Perplexed</span> <span style="font-size: 12pt;">(<a href= "https://tinyurl.com/26jcj98a">https://tinyurl.com/26jcj98a</a>)</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <!-- [if !supportLists]--><!--[endif]-->Learn more about Technology & AI at Axiom </span><span style= "font-size: 12pt;">(<a href= "https://www.axiomlaw.com/practice-areas/technology-ai">https://www.axiomlaw.com/practice-areas/technology-ai</a>)</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <!-- [if !supportLists]--><!--[endif]-->Learn more about Data Privacy & Cybersecurity at Axiom (<a href= "https://www.axiomlaw.com/practice-areas/data-privacy-cybersecurity">https://www.axiomlaw.com/practice-areas/data-privacy-cybersecurity</a>)</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <!-- [if !supportLists]--><!--[endif]-->Learn more about Regulatory & Compliance at Axiom (<a href= "https://www.axiomlaw.com/practice-areas/regulatory-compliance">https://www.axiomlaw.com/practice-areas/regulatory-compliance</a>)</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <!-- [if !supportLists]--><!--[endif]-->Learn more about Legal Operations at Axiom (<a href= "https://www.axiomlaw.com/practice-areas/legal-operations-support">https://www.axiomlaw.com/practice-areas/legal-operations-support</a>)</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <!-- [if !supportLists]--><!--[endif]-->Learn more about Axiom Tech+Talent (<a href= "https://www.axiomlaw.com/solutions/tech-plus-talent">https://www.axiomlaw.com/solutions/tech-plus-talent</a>)</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <!-- [if !supportLists]--><!--[endif]-->Visit AxiomLaw.com (<a href="https://www.axiomlaw.com">https://www.axiomlaw.com</a>)</span></li> <li><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Subscribe to the Axiom Insights Podcast (<a href= "https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/axiom-insights-on-legal-services/id1842354058">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/axiom-insights-on-legal-services/id1842354058</a>)</span></li> </ul> <p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">DISCLAIMER: Axiom is a provider of legal talent and is not a law firm, and does not provide legal advice. The information contained in these videos is merely legal information, not advice. Our clients' legal teams supervise the legal work of the Axiom lawyer. Viewing this video does not create an attorney/client relationship.</span></p>

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February 3, 2026

From Pilot to Production: How Axiom's Clients Cracked the Legal AI Adoption Code

<p class="whitespace-normal"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;">Join CJ Saretto as he corrals Peter Duffy of Titans Legal, Alex Fortescue-Webb of Legora, and Chris Frickland of Axiom for an inside look at running successful AI pilots in legal organizations. After helping Axiom test dozens of tools and compress months of contract review work into days, this group of legal AI experts unlocked the secret to achieving 10x efficiency gains that few in-house teams know.</span></p> <p class="whitespace-normal"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">In today's episode, learn why 14-day trials doom AI adoption before it starts, why training your AI on thousands of past contracts degrades does the exact opposite of what lawyers expect it to do (get smarter; but no, it gets dumber), and how focusing on one specific use case beats trying to solve everything at once.</span></p> <p class="whitespace-normal"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The panel shares hard-won insights from their innovative structured 8-week pilot program, including why dummy data kills engagement, how vendor engagement and support makes or breaks adoption, and why it's crucial to give your lawyers 3-6 weeks to build new habits around AI tools.</span></p> <p class="whitespace-normal"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Whether you're a GC evaluating generative AI tools, a legal ops leader running pilots, or a law firm partner wondering about how to measure ROI, this conversation offers field-tested strategies for what drives AI adoption in legal settings vs. expensive experimentation.</span></p> <h2><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Show Panelists</span></h2> <ul> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Host: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cjsaretto" target="_blank" rel="noopener">CJ Saretto, Chief Technology Officer, Axiom</a></span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pdffy" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Peter Duffy, CEO and Co-founder, Titans Legal</a></span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexfortescuewebb/?originalSubdomain=uk" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Alex Fortescue-Webb, Global Head of Engineering, Legora</a></span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cfrickland" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Chris Frickland, Director of AI, Axiom</a></span></li> </ul> <h2><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Key topics</span></h2> <ol> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Pilot Duration and Structure</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;">Training and Education Approaches</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Tool Selection Criteria</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Use Case Identification</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;">Adoption Challenges and Support</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Future Impact on Legal Work</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;">Technology Market Assessment</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;">Specific Tool Implementation</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;">Measuring Success and Outcomes</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;">Real-World Results and Efficiency Gains</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;">Organizational Rollout Strategy</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Client Perspectives and Demands</span></li> </ol> <p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Episode Resources</strong></span></p> <ul> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;">DraftPilot's website (<a href= "https://draftpilot.ai/">https://draftpilot.ai</a>)</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;">Legora's website (<a href= "https://legora.ai/">https://legora.ai</a>)</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Titans Legal's website (<a href= "https://www.titans.legal/team">https://www.titans.legal/team</a>)</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Learn more about Axiom Tech+Talent (<a href= "https://www.axiomlaw.com/solutions/tech-plus-talent">https://www.axiomlaw.com/solutions/tech-plus-talent</a>)</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Visit AxiomLaw.com (<a href= "https://www.axiomlaw.com">https://www.axiomlaw.com</a>)</span></li> <li style="font-size: 12pt;"><span style= "font-size: 12pt;">Subscribe to the Axiom Insights Podcast (<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/axiom-insights-on-legal-services/id1842354058">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/axiom-insights-on-legal-services/id1842354058</a>)</span></li> </ul> <p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">DISCLAIMER: Axiom is a provider of legal talent and is not a law firm, and does not provide legal advice. The information contained in these videos is merely legal information, not advice. Our clients' legal teams supervise the legal work of the Axiom lawyer. Viewing this video does not create an attorney/client relationship.</span></p>

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What is Axiom Insights on Legal Services?

As the leading alternative legal services provider globally, Axiom Law gives in-house legal teams on-demand access to top legal talent and lawyers—deployed when, where, and how clients need it—for up to 50% less than national law firms. Axiom's network of 14,000+ legal professionals includes 4,000+ lawyers with Fortune 500 experience, delivering AI-enabled legal services across more than 12 practice areas: M&A, regulatory compliance, data privacy, labor and employment, technology and AI, and more. Engagements range from legal secondments and complex project support to fully embedded team solutions. The results speak for themselves. Trusted by 75% of the Fortune 100 and thousands of mid-market leaders, Axiom ranks #1 among Alternative Legal Service Providers in 8 of 9 performance categories— including talent quality, breadth, productivity, and client experience—according to a top 5 global consulting firm. Across more than 3,000 engagements annually in 6 regions and 4 continents, 93% of clients rate Axiom lawyers as good as or better than top law firm attorneys, with 96% client satisfaction and measurable cost savings that reduce outside counsel spend without sacrificing quality. Stop overpaying for law firm work. Start with Axiom. For more information, visit www.axiomlaw.com.

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