BE THAT LAWYER is for attorneys who want more freedom, enjoyment and most importantly, control in their career. Topics will include business development, marketing, branding, technology, and law firm growth. The goal is to educate, entertain and share best practices related to these topics, so that you, the listener can get real value. This is primarily an interview show with great guests (attorneys and legal marketing professionals), sharing stories and analogies, as well as engaging in personal discussions that will keep you entertained and coming back week after week.

BE THAT LAWYER
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BE THAT LAWYER is for attorneys who want more freedom, enjoyment and most importantly, control in their career. Topics will include business development, marketing, branding, technology, and law firm growth. The goal is to educate, entertain and share best practices related to these topics, so that you, the listener can get real value. This is primarily an interview show with great guests (attorneys and legal marketing professionals), sharing stories and analogies, as well as engaging in personal discussions that will keep you entertained and coming back week after week.
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Recent Episodes

July 20, 2026
Chaka Patterson: How Outside Counsel Can Win (and Keep) In‑House Clients
Host Steve Fretzin interviews Chaka Patterson, a former GC and business strategist, on how outside counsel can win and retain in-house clients by understanding their needs and offering proactive value.

July 16, 2026
Jeff Arnold: Automating the Admin Chaos Holding Law Firms Back
Host Steve Fretzin interviews Jeff Arnold, Founder and President of 4Spot Consulting, about automating administrative chaos in law firms to reclaim billable hours.

July 13, 2026
Alex Karasik: From Zero Clients to Rainmaker Through Relentless Preparation
Host Steve Fretzin interviews Alex Karasik, a Duane Morris attorney, about transforming a legal career through relentless preparation and relationship-based business development.
619 total episodes available with 259 transcripts
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