A series of conversations somewhere between the theory of climbing and the climbing of theory.
Hosts: Bo Earle and Nicola Masciandaro
Because It's Not There - Climbing Theory
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A series of conversations somewhere between the theory of climbing and the climbing of theory. Hosts: Bo Earle and Nicola Masciandaro
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February 23, 2022
Climbing the Colorful Umwelt of Fashion w/ Otto von Busch
<p>Otto von Busch: https://www.newschool.edu/parsons/fac...</p> <p>Umwelt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umwelt</p> <p><br></p> <p>0:35 - Otto on design, fashion, hacktivism, theory etc.</p> <p>6:42 - reluctance to talk fashion</p> <p>7:56 - almost habitually lying</p> <p>8:40 - drab vs. color </p> <p>8:56 - climbing clothes</p> <p>10:28 - clipping shoes on bag</p> <p>11:28 - carabiners</p> <p>12:35 - where does function turn into style?</p> <p>14:14 - fashion as risk, gamble, game</p> <p>15:07 - vital, spiritual vogue, living in images</p> <p>16:00 - coolness</p> <p>17:30 - trying on new selves</p> <p>19:19 - fashion as ecosystem</p> <p>20:30 - gortex earring Monastery anecdote</p> <p>22:18 - policing and self-policing</p> <p>23:55 - this ever-present fluid medium of images and affects</p> <p>25:45 - Uexküll, tonality, energy</p> <p>26:37 - climbing as spectacle, being on display</p> <p>28:10 - umwelt</p> <p>29:40 - example of the uniform</p> <p>30:32 - musicality of umwelt</p> <p>31:06 - unknowing of fashion</p> <p>32:40 - inhabiting clothes climbing</p> <p>34:30 - wearing</p> <p>36:00 - packing for a journey</p> <p>38:10 - sprezzatura, making it look easy, natural</p> <p>43:24 - climbing style</p> <p>44:00 - gratuitousness</p> <p>46:50 - Ashima Shiraishi</p> <p>55:45 - Alex Megos</p> <p>59:30 - Topo Designs</p> <p>1:03:00 - Anton Krupicka</p> <p>1:16:00 - fashion operating system</p> <p>1:19:00 - hacktivist strategy</p> <p>1:23:00 - climbing gyms as 'creative' spaces</p> <p>1:26:00 - climbing holds as designed, aesthetic objects</p> <p>1:27:06 - SoIll </p> <p>1:28:00 - and so much more!</p>
January 19, 2022
Always Stopping To Explore Vague Mountain Waves of Adventure...
<p>ALWAYS STOPPING TO EXPLORE VAGUE MOUNTAIN WAVES OF ADVENTURE BY LETTING THE HORIZON BE WHAT IT IS (BISEXUAL ALPINISM)</p> <p><br></p> <p>0:34 - the weirdness of arriving (on an adventure)</p> <p>1:24 - exploration as return, as love, as horizon</p> <p>2:07 - why leave home? type 1 vs. type 2 (fun)</p> <p>3:50 - 'I wish I was anywhere else'</p> <p>4:24 - 'are climbers lying to each other?'</p> <p>5:48 - desire to summit as desire to come down</p> <p>6:30 - climbing as planetary or wandering movement</p> <p>7:24 - the call for fun of climbing and beauty of vagueness</p> <p>8:17 - vagueness and value </p> <p>9:40 - play as home</p> <p>10:23 - exploration as inversion of outside and inside</p> <p>11:23 - etymology of 'exploration' and the call</p> <p>12:25 - climbing as surfing</p> <p>13:30 - paradoxes of experience</p> <p>14:14 - climbing as returning time and mnemonic anagogy</p> <p>15:28 - opening lines of canto 28 of Dante's Purgatorio</p> <p>18:30 - the swerve (clinamen), folding of time, resignation</p> <p>20:18 - Leopardi's poetics of vagueness</p> <p>21:19 - the onsight</p> <p>22:43 - 'rather than being brittle, not vague, and kinda fragile'</p> <p>23:30 - swerve, turbulence, spontaneity, composition</p> <p>27:50 - crudeness of our analytical self-accounting</p> <p>28:25 - paying attention to the whim</p> <p>30:30 - 'we learn despite ourselves'</p> <p>30:45 - learning as recollection, aphaeresis</p> <p>32:24 - ascent as reversal of descent</p> <p>33:00 - climbing as dropping out vs. mainstreamization</p> <p>35:25 - climbing as reification of exploration, means becoming ends</p> <p>37:24 - #neverstopexploring, discovering great outdoors of your inbox, mountains of debt</p> <p>39:55 - boredom and hypocrisy </p> <p>42:20 - honesty, shame, learning to be a shitty climber</p> <p>43:50 - blue collar climbing</p> <p>45:16 - new Gunks guidebook, chasing history</p> <p>52:00 - 'peak climbing'</p> <p>55:50 - downclimbing or offwidthly wiggling out of climbing a la The Shining </p> <p>1:00:00 - climbing and military allure</p> <p>1:02:00 - exploration as double passage known and unknown</p> <p>1:03:00 - exploration becomes self-exploration</p> <p>1:04:00 - varieties of self and what you find honest</p> <p>1:05:00 - Heidegger on letting the horizon be what it is</p> <p>1:15:00 - kids teach us how to play</p> <p><br></p> <p>Adjacent routes:</p> <p><br></p> <p>Serres, Michel. 2018. The birth of physics.</p> <p>LEOPARDI, GIACOMO. 2019. ZIBALDONE: the notebooks of leopardi.</p> <p>Brinkmann, Carolin. (2008). From infinite pleasure to "abyss of indeterminate thoughts". Leopardi's pleasure theory and indefinite poetic. Germanisch-Romanische Monatsschrift. 58. 419-444. </p> <p>Harding, Warren, and Beryl Knauth. 2016. Downward bound: a mad! guide to rock climbing.</p> <p>Margret Grebowicz. 2021. Mountains and Desire.</p> <p>Heidegger, Martin. 2000. Discourse on thinking: a translation of Gelassenheit. New York: Harper Perennial.</p> <p>Coccia, Emanuele. 2019. Goods: advertising, urban space, and the moral law of the image.</p> <p><br></p> <p><br></p> <p><br></p> <p><br></p> <p><br></p> <p><br></p>
January 10, 2022
INDEIXIS -- What Is This That Stands Before Me?
<p>WHEREIN WE PURSUE THE ANTI-STYLE OF (THE) INDEX FURTHER INTO THIS SOMEWHERE BY NOT GOING THERE, POINTING OUT ALONG THE WAY THAT IF YOU CLIMBED A ROUTE YOU NEVER DID BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO -- With Jon Nelson! </p> <p>1:49 - climbing role models, indication, presence, uniqueness of Index Town Walls 5:47 - climbing and deixis, throwing pebbles anecdote, proprioceptive ground 8:51 - local vs. universal markers, immersed perspective 10:30 - language as medium of climbing, meaning of 'ascent' 13:39 - Jon Nelson, the name Index, allure of the place, the quarry and fifth force tunnel 21:45 - climbing and physics, math; climbing as problem, proof, demonstration 26:28 - Jon Nelson's climbing style, hardcore, anti-style 29:57 - Jon's style in relation to the essential negativity of the This, the problem of being, the event of language (via Agamben) 32:39 - honesty in climbing vs. conquest/achievement 33.20 - indexicalism, process, situatedness (see Hilan Bensusan) 33:39 - on naming, Jon's theory of route naming, Index names 38:52 - Jon's route development in Japan 39:43 - Kuniyoshi Kataoka's research into climbing language and deixis 42:25 - continuum of climbing and deixis in the social gestural 'language' of reading/scoping routes 46:08 - succeeding by failing 48:20 - wanting the climb vs. wanted to have done the climb 50:43 - the preference for putting up new routes 52:06 - first descent style 53:28 - The Alpinist movie and going where you are not supposed to 55:04 - experimentalism and (non)escape of facticity, I-me chain of being 56:26 - creating something, example of Mike Massey and Zoom 57:52 - route as gift of unique experience, non-consumable currencies, subculture 59:57 - Gunnar Karlson on the beauty of a climb vis-a-vis proprioception, the intersubjective world of climbing 1:01:35 - like a giant oil painting laid on the landscape, climb as artwork, quote from Gadamer's Relevance of the Beautiful 1:02:57 - name as index of that auto-deictic dimension of the route 1:04:04 - Black Sabbath on the Diamond 1:05:07 - relations between climbing and music 1:10:56 - a way of trying to make climbing not become like any other activity 1:13:36 - climbing and mystical potentiality (doing what you can't do by not doing it) 1:15:06 - surprised by still not falling off the hub of the universe </p> <p>“[T]he significance of the This is, in reality, a Not-this that it contains; that is, an essential negativity. . . . The problem of being—the supreme metaphysical problem—emerges from the very beginning as inseparable from the problem of the significance of the demonstrative pronoun, and for this reason it is always already connected with the field of indication . . . Deixis, or indication . . . is the category within which language refers to its own taking place.” (Giorgio Agamben, Language and Death) </p> <p>“43. Why indices rather than characters, signs, distinctive markings? Because the body escapes, is never sure, lets its presence be suspected but not identified. It could always just be part of another, bigger body that we take to be its house, its car or its horse, its ass or its mattress. It could be nothing more than the double of that tiny, vaporous other body that we call its soul and that escapes through its mouth when it dies. All we have at our disposal are indications, traces, imprints, and vestiges.” (Jean-Luc Nancy, 58 Indices on the Body) </p> <p>“In every Instant being begins; around every Here rolls the ball There. The middle is everywhere. Crooked is the path of eternity.” (Nietzsche, Zarathustra) </p> <p>Adjacent routes: </p> <p>Hilan Bensusan, Indexicalism and the Metaphysics of Paradox. </p> <p>Kuniyoshi Kataoka, "Co-Construction of a Mental Map in Spatial Discourse: A Case of Japanese Rock Climbers' Use of Deictic Verbs of Motion." </p> <p>See also: Climbing - Philosophy for Everyone: Because It's There.</p> <p><br></p>
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