Hosted by Odin Clack and Michael Magnus, Beyond the Workbench casually dives into the world of leathercraft, entrepreneurship, and modern maker life. From personal project updates to new marketing ideas and challenges, each episode offers practical insights, inspiring stories, and candid conversations. Whether you’re deep in the craft game or just love hearing how small businesses adapt, grow, and strategize—this is your spot. Expect conversations with guests, updates on upcoming events, spotlights on fellow makers, and discussions about bridging the gap between tradition and innovation.
All Money Is Not Good Money | Beyond the Workbench #30
Not every job that pays is worth taking.
Neither host can find a night to record. High school sports and a slow trip through East Texas turn into a conversation about what a break is for. Magnus also gives the update on his great aunt, three months after the cats were placed.
Then it turns to where the hours go. Odin ran out of branded tape because finding a new supplier was less fun than tooling a belt. Magnus adds up the hours he spent building a class search app and wonders what marketing would have done with them. The money is not made at the workbench.
Late in the episode, a question from Cedar Breaks Cowboy Co. He delivered 25 covers in a week and a half, sent the invoice, and learned payment would take 30 days. Odin covers what to settle first: payment terms up front, a W-9 ready, fees built into the price. Once the product ships, the leverage is gone.
Leathercraft Business Mastermind interest form:
https://forms.gle/m7jjm314NjkTQhir5
TIMESTAMPS:
00:18 - Finding a Night to Record
08:16 - Remember Why You Started
11:34 - The Cats, Three Months Later
14:05 - Seven Habits and Mission Statements
19:27 - Mission as a Decision Filter
23:56 - Using What You Already Have
28:34 - Money Is Made in the Office
32:38 - Kanban Boards for Everything
45:16 - Know the Terms Up Front
55:42 - Send the Invoice, Then Work
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HOSTS:
Odin Clack - https://www.instagram.com/odinleather
Michael Magnus - https://www.instagram.com/magnusopus
Beyond the Workbench casually dives into the world of leathercraft, entrepreneurship, and modern maker life. Hosted by Odin Clack (full-time leatherworker and retail owner) and Michael Magnus (leather marketing expert and founder of www.learnleathercraft.com), we explore everything from personal project updates to marketing strategies, retail challenges, and the business side of making.
New episodes are released twice a month on Thursdays.
Enjoying the podcast? Please share it with someone who you think would find value in the conversations. If these conversations have helped your business and you're interested in supporting the show, visit our Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/beyondtheworkbench
Edited and produced by Instrumental Media: https://instrumental.media/
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20 Aug 2026
Heart of Texas Leather Show (2026) Recap | Beyond the Workbench #29
The show was busy enough that almost nobody got the catch-up time they came for.
In Episode 29, Odin and Magnus recap the Heart of Texas Leather Show in Waco: classes back to back, a line at every booth, and apology texts afterward from friends who never found a free minute. Both hosts also noticed a shift on the floor, younger faces and makers coming at the craft from outside traditional tooling.
The classes surfaced the same three sentiments over and over: a hobby that got expensive enough that a spouse asked it to pay for itself, knowing you should be posting but not wanting to be on camera, and owning more leather than you will ever cut. Under all three sits the same question, artisan or business owner, which is a spectrum and not a fork.
Out of those conversations comes a small mastermind group built around goals and accountability. The form below is gathering input on schedule, format, and price.
Leathercraft Business Mastermind interest form:
https://forms.gle/m7jjm314NjkTQhir5
TIMESTAMPS:
01:05 - No Time to Catch Up
02:28 - Learning Better From Someone Else
05:57 - Why Niche Classes Fill Slower
10:23 - New Faces at the Show
11:46 - A Designer, Not a Tooler
15:22 - Inside the E-Commerce Class
22:25 - The Mastermind Group Idea
34:09 - Artisan or Business Owner
37:59 - Three Things Everyone Wrestles With
46:45 - Lasers Getting Less Taboo
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HOSTS:
Odin Clack - https://www.instagram.com/odinleather
Michael Magnus - https://www.instagram.com/magnusopus
Beyond the Workbench casually dives into the world of leathercraft, entrepreneurship, and modern maker life. Hosted by Odin Clack (full-time leatherworker and retail owner) and Michael Magnus (leather marketing expert and founder of www.learnleathercraft.com), we explore everything from personal project updates to marketing strategies, retail challenges, and the business side of making.
New episodes are released twice a month on Thursdays.
Enjoying the podcast? Please share it with someone who you think would find value in the conversations. If these conversations have helped your business and you're interested in supporting the show, visit our Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/beyondtheworkbench
Edited and produced by Instrumental Media: https://instrumental.media/
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7 Aug 2026
Life Be Lifin' | Beyond the Workbench #28
Sometimes the plan gets interrupted by 32 cats.
Magnus spent two weeks helping his 81-year-old great aunt's pets. His projects stood still while he did it, but it was all for the best. Odin saw a shirt that read "Life be lifin'," and it became the frame for the episode: what happens to your goals when summer, family, and an emergency all land at once. The goal line is yours to move.
Magnus also paid out the first quarterly dividends to the makers selling on learnleathercraft.com, which is something to be quite proud of. Odin reports back from Weaver Leather's Maker Camp in Ohio, where almost nobody knew who he was and that turned out to be the best part. A doorbell hanger class became a sewing machine lesson for 30 people who had never touched one.
The back half gets into Don Gonzales's apprenticeship program and grading projects on margins, not looks.
TIMESTAMPS:
00:31 - When Life Interrupts Everything
07:11 - Setting Goals That Survive Reality
08:44 - Paying Out the First Dividends
12:07 - Overestimate One Year, Underestimate Ten
17:17 - Inside Weaver's Maker Camp
22:14 - Nobody Knew Who I Was
23:17 - Teaching Thirty People to Sew
27:53 - Getting Out of Your Silo
37:59 - Grading a Project on Margins
48:38 - Heart of Texas Classes Explained
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HOSTS:
Odin Clack - https://www.instagram.com/odinleather
Michael Magnus - https://www.instagram.com/magnusopus
Beyond the Workbench casually dives into the world of leathercraft, entrepreneurship, and modern maker life. Hosted by Odin Clack (full-time leatherworker and retail owner) and Michael Magnus (leather marketing expert and founder of www.learnleathercraft.com), we explore everything from personal project updates to marketing strategies, retail challenges, and the business side of making.
New episodes are released twice a month on Thursdays.
Enjoying the podcast? Please share it with someone who you think would find value in the conversations. If these conversations have helped your business and you're interested in supporting the show, visit our Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/beyondtheworkbench
Edited and produced by Instrumental Media: https://instrumental.media/
#BeyondTheWorkbench #Podcast #Leathercraft #LeatherWorking #Entrepreneurship #MakerCommunity #SmallBusiness #MakerBusiness #BusinessStrategy #MakerLife #WorkLifeBalance #CraftBusiness
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