Biblical Business Podcast
Adam Weisner + McClain McKinney
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About Biblical Business Podcast
Most business advice for Christians stops at "pray about it" and "run it with integrity." That is true, and it is not enough when you are deciding whether to take the loan, let someone go, or sell the company. Biblical Business exists to close that gap. The world taught us to treat "biblical" and "business" as separate ideas. One belongs on Sunday, the other on Monday morning. They were never separate. God created work before the fall, and Scripture speaks directly to how you market, how you scale, how you lead people, and how you manage money. Hosted by Adam Weisner and McClain McKinney. Adam is the CEO of Sherman Research, an investment research firm structured to give away 51% of its net income to advance the gospel, and the author of Biblical Business: Seven Unbreakable Laws of Leadership. He is an active operator, not an armchair consultant. McClain runs the creative agency Chalant and handles the interviewing. He has produced video, photo, and branding content for companies like Amazon, Whole Foods, and Walmart. Every episode is a long conversation with a founder who loves Jesus and is actually building something. We go one inch wide and ten feet deep on questions like: Why revenue is vanity, profit is sanity, and cash flow is reality Where AI genuinely helps, and where it quietly replaces your judgment What David's mighty men teach you about who to hire Whether to sell, when the numbers say yes and something else says wait What you owe the people who work for you, before they have to ask Building something that runs without you, which is stewardship and not absence The parts nobody posts about: envy, anxiety, imposter syndrome, and success going to your head You do not have to believe the Bible to use what is here. The wisdom works because it is rooted in truth, and truth works regardless of who applies it. Your work is worship. Lead with your faith intact, not in spite of it.
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- 17 Sept 2026
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- 30 Oct 2026
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30 Oct 2026
S1E10: Jesus Is Your CEO Manual
The first in-person episode. McClain McKinney flies across the country to Adam Weisner's office in the woods of North Idaho, and Adam opens with a question of his own: what's it like to be married to a Disney princess? McClain tells the story of his wife's audition, one of 800 hopefuls, and what Disney teaches about a brand you feel before you notice it. Then why Adam's family left Southern California, the office Jen designed, and why Adam needs a separate space to do his best work. As one of his coaches told him, his ambition overrides his introversion. Most of the conversation is about leading remote teams. In a remote company you're known by your outputs, so Adam makes the case for treating people as people: in-person time that isn't about efficiency, small acts of care, and a mission bigger than money. Plus the job posts so many applicants called too good to be true, and hiring the best talent anywhere in the world. Their close: success is stewardship, not a number. And the only CEO manual you need is the Bible. Jesus washed His disciples' feet and told them to do the same. So how do you wash your team's feet when they're remote? CHAPTERS 00:00 Married to a Disney princess 13:34 What Disney teaches about brand 18:28 Leaving Southern California 22:54 What the move changed 27:44 The office Jen designed 32:49 A workspace away from home 35:44 Ambition overrides introversion 38:25 Remote work needs in-person time 42:25 A person, not an output 44:41 What doesn't work remotely 46:22 Meaning beyond money 47:17 The only thing that costs you is care 50:16 Is remote more productive? 54:00 A job that seems too good to be true 57:13 Hiring the best talent anywhere 1:05:19 Redefining success 1:08:17 The fear of giving it to God 1:10:31 Failure or God's correction? 1:14:08 Am I just bad at business? 1:17:48 Jesus is your CEO manual 1:19:26 Should we wash our employees' feet? 1:21:14 Nothing figured out 1:23:49 True humility 1:27:27 Closing prayer FOLLOW THE SHOW YouTube: youtube.com/@biblicalbusinesspodcast Instagram: instagram.com/biblicalbusinesspodcast ADAM WEISNER CEO of Sherman Research. Author of Biblical Business: Seven Unbreakable Laws of Leadership. Instagram: instagram.com/thedispensableceo TikTok: tiktok.com/@thedispensableceo YouTube: youtube.com/@TheDispensableCEO LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/adamweisner Newsletter: adamweisner.substack.com Book: biblicalbusiness.com MCCLAIN MCKINNEY Founder and CEO of Chalant. Instagram: instagram.com/mcclainmckinney TikTok: tiktok.com/@mcclainmckinney YouTube: youtube.com/@McClainMcKinney LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mcclainmckinney Site: mcclainmckinney.com Agency: chalant.us Subscribe to Biblical Business so you catch the next episode. Scripture quotations are from the ESV® Bible (The Holy Bible, English Standard Version®), © 2001 by Crossway, a publishing ministry of Good News Publishers. Used by permission. All rights reserved.
22 Oct 2026
S1E9: Trusting God With the Timing
Business books or the Bible? McClain McKinney asks Adam Weisner where to draw the line, and they land on jazz: learn the standards first, then you earn the right to improvise. Adam on why science keeps catching up with what was already there, and why Jesus is only concerned with the heart behind it. Then Adam's story. He wanted a car for Christmas and opened a box of Tony Robbins tapes. A strong-willed child, a house with no power, and getting saved in October 2000, right before he met Jen. They talk about iron sharpening iron, the loneliness of leading, and what Adam found inside C12. Adam on selling with contentment ("the outcomes didn't determine my output"), why stoicism is about self and contentment is about God, and how to steward a business without panic. Their close: it's hard to trust God with the outcomes. Trusting Him with the timing is harder. CHAPTERS 00:00 Business books or the Bible? 03:09 Jazz standards 07:07 Learn the rules, then break them 11:59 Science catching up to God 16:43 The Tony Robbins tapes 20:03 A strong-willed child 26:38 A house with no power 33:05 October 2000 40:31 Iron sharpens iron 46:52 The slow drip and the dam break 51:01 The loneliness of leading 56:23 Inside C12 1:04:56 Contentment is not stoicism 1:13:09 Stewardship without panic 1:18:58 Right practice, wrong intention 1:24:36 Breaking the rut 1:28:50 Trusting God with the timing 1:34:57 Redefining success FOLLOW THE SHOW YouTube: youtube.com/@biblicalbusinesspodcast Instagram: instagram.com/biblicalbusinesspodcast ADAM WEISNER CEO of Sherman Research. Author of Biblical Business: Seven Unbreakable Laws of Leadership. Instagram: instagram.com/thedispensableceo TikTok: tiktok.com/@thedispensableceo YouTube: youtube.com/@TheDispensableCEO LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/adamweisner Newsletter: adamweisner.substack.com Book: biblicalbusiness.com MCCLAIN MCKINNEY Founder and CEO of Chalant. Instagram: instagram.com/mcclainmckinney TikTok: tiktok.com/@mcclainmckinney YouTube: youtube.com/@McClainMcKinney LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mcclainmckinney Site: mcclainmckinney.com Agency: chalant.us Subscribe to Biblical Business so you catch the next episode. Scripture quotations are from the ESV® Bible (The Holy Bible, English Standard Version®), © 2001 by Crossway, a publishing ministry of Good News Publishers. Used by permission. All rights reserved.
20 Oct 2026
S1E8: How Should Christians Think About AI?
How should Christians think about AI? Adam Weisner and McClain McKinney start with Daniel in Babylon: he learned the language and the culture, and when it mattered, God got the glory. Adam's line: "We're not believers in AI. We are leveragers and users of AI. I believe in Jesus." They talk about what changes when anyone can execute, why judgment, taste and ideas become the most valuable things you bring, and why being made in God's image means you were made to create. Then the video game Adam built from one prompt. McClain walks through a chart of how few people use AI at all, and they get practical: guardrails, filling out a 31-page RFP, turning a 93-page brand guide into a working brand system, what Adam hands off, and how McClain writes his prompts. Then the hard part. McClain admits he'll go to AI before he goes to God, and Adam names the biggest danger of AI for Christians: the illusion of control. Test it by the fruit of the Spirit, and choose silence. CHAPTERS 00:00 How should Christians think about AI? 02:19 Daniel in Babylon 05:24 Purpose beyond profit 08:37 Nothing new under the sun 13:17 When anyone can execute 17:24 A game from one prompt 20:30 You are not behind 23:10 Guardrails 26:53 RFPs and brand systems 33:53 What Adam hands off 39:16 Mapping the business 42:58 Productivity is not efficiency 46:40 How McClain prompts 49:05 The game is done 55:15 AI before God 57:01 The illusion of control 1:02:24 Test it by the fruit FOLLOW THE SHOW YouTube: youtube.com/@biblicalbusinesspodcast Instagram: instagram.com/biblicalbusinesspodcast ADAM WEISNER CEO of Sherman Research. Author of Biblical Business: Seven Unbreakable Laws of Leadership. Instagram: instagram.com/thedispensableceo TikTok: tiktok.com/@thedispensableceo YouTube: youtube.com/@TheDispensableCEO LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/adamweisner Newsletter: adamweisner.substack.com Book: biblicalbusiness.com MCCLAIN MCKINNEY Founder and CEO of Chalant. Instagram: instagram.com/mcclainmckinney TikTok: tiktok.com/@mcclainmckinney YouTube: youtube.com/@McClainMcKinney LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mcclainmckinney Site: mcclainmckinney.com Agency: chalant.us Subscribe to Biblical Business so you catch the next episode. Scripture quotations are from the ESV® Bible (The Holy Bible, English Standard Version®), © 2001 by Crossway, a publishing ministry of Good News Publishers. Used by permission. All rights reserved.
15 Oct 2026
S1E7: Pruning Is Preparation
This one wasn't planned. Adam Weisner and McClain McKinney had a two-hour meeting, kept talking, and decided to hit record. It's a conversation about leadership. Adam on going from a 19-year-old with a lot to prove to a servant leader, and why the only real mark of success is Jesus' name growing with his influence. McClain, an Enneagram 3, on learning to be uncomfortably honest; Adam, an 8, on why he hears conflict as raw truth. Then the bank's color test ("be brief, be bright, be gone") next to the fruit of the Spirit. They get into accountability: who asks the leader the hard questions, what Adam found in C12 after Vistage, and why you might only need one person. Adam on putting the sail up and waiting: a company debt paid off in about two years instead of the five he expected, and the hire who backed out the morning of his start date. "Pruning is preparation." McClain talks through a hard season after 40 days away, and Adam tells him there are a lot easier ways to make money. Their close: you are in control of your obedience today. CHAPTERS 00:00 An unplanned episode 04:04 From proving to serving 06:16 Conflict is raw truth 09:26 The color test 13:16 Younger than the room 18:22 Who holds the leader accountable? 28:00 C12 vs Vistage 32:49 Put the sail up and wait 38:05 Manufacturing wind 42:26 Pruning is preparation 44:54 A winter you didn't expect 52:00 Why do any of this? 57:52 You never owned it 1:00:57 In control of your obedience FOLLOW THE SHOW YouTube: youtube.com/@biblicalbusinesspodcast Instagram: instagram.com/biblicalbusinesspodcast ADAM WEISNER CEO of Sherman Research. Author of Biblical Business: Seven Unbreakable Laws of Leadership. Instagram: instagram.com/thedispensableceo TikTok: tiktok.com/@thedispensableceo YouTube: youtube.com/@TheDispensableCEO LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/adamweisner Newsletter: adamweisner.substack.com Book: biblicalbusiness.com MCCLAIN MCKINNEY Founder and CEO of Chalant. Instagram: instagram.com/mcclainmckinney TikTok: tiktok.com/@mcclainmckinney YouTube: youtube.com/@McClainMcKinney LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mcclainmckinney Site: mcclainmckinney.com Agency: chalant.us Subscribe to Biblical Business so you catch the next episode. Scripture quotations are from the ESV® Bible (The Holy Bible, English Standard Version®), © 2001 by Crossway, a publishing ministry of Good News Publishers. Used by permission. All rights reserved.
13 Oct 2026
S1E6: Your Brand Is Your Reputation
Is your brand selfish? McClain McKinney tells Adam Weisner he is approaching branding from a selfish perspective. Adam's answer: a brand always starts with someone's selfish opinion, and then it has to earn trust. They start with a definition. Adam: "Your brand is your reputation." McClain: "the subconscious affiliation of unrelated things." From there they get into the brand moat, the thing that protects you when someone does the same thing you do, or does it cheaper. Then AI. Adam argues that the capability of AI is inversely correlated to trust, and that all future currency is articulation. McClain makes his case for human-made work on purpose, and they work through what Tesla and SpaceX say, a thousand true fans, and why great marketing is other people telling your story, not you. They finish on where they agree: trust is the moat, and the first principles they want for this podcast. CHAPTERS 00:00 The disagreement 06:36 What is a brand? 10:20 The brand moat 14:04 Is branding selfish? 19:19 Trust in the AI era 25:34 Human-made on purpose 34:53 What Tesla and SpaceX say 45:46 A thousand true fans 48:05 Invest in story, not ads 56:16 Humble and curious 58:53 Where we agree 1:04:30 Competing without manipulation 1:09:54 Branding this podcast 1:13:59 Trust is the moat 1:18:40 What's worth doing next 1:28:10 First principles for our brand FOLLOW THE SHOW YouTube: youtube.com/@biblicalbusinesspodcast Instagram: instagram.com/biblicalbusinesspodcast ADAM WEISNER CEO of Sherman Research. Author of Biblical Business: Seven Unbreakable Laws of Leadership. Instagram: instagram.com/thedispensableceo TikTok: tiktok.com/@thedispensableceo YouTube: youtube.com/@TheDispensableCEO LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/adamweisner Newsletter: adamweisner.substack.com Book: biblicalbusiness.com MCCLAIN MCKINNEY Founder and CEO of Chalant. Instagram: instagram.com/mcclainmckinney TikTok: tiktok.com/@mcclainmckinney YouTube: youtube.com/@McClainMcKinney LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mcclainmckinney Site: mcclainmckinney.com Agency: chalant.us Subscribe to Biblical Business so you catch the next episode. Scripture taken from the New King James Version®. Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson. Used by permission. All rights reserved.
12 Oct 2026
S1E5: If You're Firing Someone, You Probably Failed Them First
What does it look like when a company decides to "manage someone out"? Adam Weisner says a biblical business does the opposite. Adam's answer starts with the leader: if you are firing someone, you have most likely failed them. Usually the gap is a lack of clarity, a lack of accountability, or a bad hiring process. So he sets a real process (a verbal warning, a written warning, then 30, 60, and 90 day windows), ends each step with "how can I help you?", and means it. His line: "If somebody's underperforming, it is a direct reflection of your lack of leadership." Adam has terminated people because of changes in the business and for things they did or didn't do, and says it never gets easy, ever. Some of the people he has let go, or who quit, still ask him to be their mentor. He has also moved underperformers into a smaller role instead, sometimes at the same pay and sometimes at a way reduced scope. McClain McKinney brings the small business owner's side. He hired for growth when he needed operations, had to let that person go, then told his network about him, and 10 people asked for the man's email. He also tells how the coaching relationship with Adam turned into a job at Sherman. CHAPTERS 00:00 Why people see a firing coming, and a family hire who stops showing up 04:14 "If I'm firing somebody, then I have failed them most likely as a leader" 05:30 How corporate "manages someone out," and what stewardship does instead 07:02 Verbal warning, written warning, 30, 60, and 90 days: "how can I help you?" 11:23 Why firing "wrecks you," and the people who still call afterward 15:09 Why corporate trains people to be cold, and what ignoring an underperformer tells everyone else 17:35 A witness in the room, a confirming email, and one consistent process 23:21 McClain hired for growth when he needed operations 26:33 Letting him go, then telling his network: 10 people asked for his email 32:10 The garage hiring video and the thousands who responded 41:20 "You just need to be you": watches, UFC, and homeschool 43:28 McClain's 40 day sabbatical, and "what if you were to come work for me?" 48:06 A speaking invite to a castle in Scotland, and how Adam ended up in Orlando 53:47 "There is no butterfly effect" 1:01:29 Adam's rule: no top-level hire without his wife's buy-in 1:07:41 "Is this an easy path to what?" 1:09:26 Tennis versus pickleball, and who wrote your SOPs BOOKS MENTIONED The Almanack of Naval Ravikant by Eric Jorgenson: https://amzn.to/4yk6rlA (https://amzn.to/4yk6rlA) As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. FOLLOW THE SHOW YouTube: youtube.com/@biblicalbusinesspodcast Instagram: instagram.com/biblicalbusinesspodcast ADAM WEISNER CEO of Sherman Research. Author of Biblical Business: Seven Unbreakable Laws of Leadership. Instagram: instagram.com/thedispensableceo TikTok: tiktok.com/@thedispensableceo YouTube: youtube.com/@TheDispensableCEO LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/adamweisner Newsletter: adamweisner.substack.com Book: biblicalbusiness.com MCCLAIN MCKINNEY Founder and CEO of Chalant. Instagram: instagram.com/mcclainmckinney TikTok: tiktok.com/@mcclainmckinney YouTube: youtube.com/@McClainMcKinney LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mcclainmckinney Site: mcclainmckinney.com Agency: chalant.us Subscribe to Biblical Business so you catch the next episode.
7 Oct 2026
S1E4: You Can't Control the Rain
How do you relinquish control when business gets hard? Adam Weisner says plant and water faithfully. The outcomes belong to God, not your scoreboard. Adam's position: good stewardship is the work you do today, not the outcome you cannot control. "The stewardship is the planting and the watering, but the outcomes are his." McClain takes 40 days off. Chalant has almost tripled in size two years running. He returns to a sales pipeline as large as the previous year's business, then watches the opportunities disappear. He asks whether a hard season means he is missing what God wants him to do. Adam challenges the scoreboard. A profitable business alongside an unsuccessful family life is not success. McClain brings the founder's fear of letting go; Adam brings Sabbath, small pauses when urgency rises, and physical separation between work and home. McClain catches himself cleaning the kitchen during an argument. Adam calls failure "the cost of learning." They question the assembly line for knowledge work and whether reading more books can become false productivity. Adam argues that skill matters, but Scripture must remain the filter for what is true. BOOKS MENTIONED Invitation to Solitude and Silence by Ruth Haley Barton: https://amzn.to/4ygiksy (https://amzn.to/4ygiksy) Crossing the Chasm by Geoffrey Moore: https://amzn.to/4z1NDYg (https://amzn.to/4z1NDYg) Creativity, Inc. by Catmull and Wallace: https://amzn.to/3VvTjve (https://amzn.to/3VvTjve) Good to Great by Jim Collins: https://amzn.to/3V3j7yy (https://amzn.to/3V3j7yy) Just Do Something by Kevin DeYoung: https://amzn.to/4AvDVig (https://amzn.to/4AvDVig) Living Life Backward by David Gibson: https://amzn.to/474iVlr (https://amzn.to/474iVlr) Atomic Habits by James Clear: https://amzn.to/4yfM2Oh (https://amzn.to/4yfM2Oh) Deep Work by Cal Newport: https://amzn.to/3TlfymP (https://amzn.to/3TlfymP) The Second Machine Age by Brynjolfsson and McAfee: https://amzn.to/3TkWuVO (https://amzn.to/3TkWuVO) Slow Productivity by Cal Newport: https://amzn.to/4hN0tDN (https://amzn.to/4hN0tDN) Beloved by Francis Chan: https://amzn.to/4yZuqq1 (https://amzn.to/4yZuqq1) The Almanack of Naval Ravikant by Eric Jorgenson: https://amzn.to/4yk6rlA (https://amzn.to/4yk6rlA) The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer: https://amzn.to/4AD48vy (https://amzn.to/4AD48vy) As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. FOLLOW THE SHOW YouTube: youtube.com/@biblicalbusinesspodcast Instagram: instagram.com/biblicalbusinesspodcast ADAM WEISNER CEO of Sherman Research. Author of Biblical Business: Seven Unbreakable Laws of Leadership. Instagram: instagram.com/thedispensableceo TikTok: tiktok.com/@thedispensableceo YouTube: youtube.com/@TheDispensableCEO LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/adamweisner Newsletter: adamweisner.substack.com Book: biblicalbusiness.com MCCLAIN MCKINNEY Founder and CEO of Chalant. Instagram: instagram.com/mcclainmckinney TikTok: tiktok.com/@mcclainmckinney YouTube: youtube.com/@McClainMcKinney LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mcclainmckinney Site: mcclainmckinney.com Agency: chalant.us Subscribe, and send this to a business owner who is trying to control the rain.
30 Sept 2026
S1E3 - Jesus Was Not a Penny Pincher
What should you pay yourself, and what should you pay your team? Adam Weisner says the market sets the floor and your heart sets the rest. If you are not paying yourself what it would cost to replace you, you are underpaying. If your idea of a great business means not paying people, you have already left the path of leading well. Adam's position is that compensation has no formula. Start at the market pay band, then go past it on purpose, because a biblical business is led from generosity. "Jesus was not a penny pincher, so I'm not going to be one either." Raise, equity, a $25,000 speaking fee, a late invoice: the number is never the real issue. The motive behind it is. "I climbed Money Mountain and found the hamster wheel." Adam says his first $200,000 check did not bring the peace he expected. What replaced the chase is what he calls a healthy apathy to money, the contentment Paul describes in Philippians 4. Adam grew up on free lunches, eating peanut butter and jelly tortillas because bread was a luxury, then spent twenty years in corporate America fighting for every raise. He runs Sherman Research the opposite way: a four-day week with no pay cut, 100% of benefits covered for employee and family, 401k at 60 days instead of a year. The quarter after the four-day week started, profit grew 50%. McClain brings the founder's side. The "we can't afford that" message he grew up with still creeps into Chalant's decisions. He asks when AI means a creative business should pivot or abandon ship. And one client is consistently past net 30 and just lost most of its marketing team. Adam's answer: three chances, then they become a cash customer. Adam refuses to call his team a family: "This is the major leagues, and sometimes you get traded." He describes forgiving seven figures owed by a professing believer. And he does the math on a 20% quick-pay discount: $20,000 off a $100,000 invoice feels like a lot, but $80,000 arriving 25 days sooner is what lets you survive. BOOKS MENTIONED The Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel: https://amzn.to/4dfmjgJ (https://amzn.to/4dfmjgJ) Counterfeit Gods by Timothy Keller: https://amzn.to/4dcB7N2 (https://amzn.to/4dcB7N2) Every Good Endeavor by Timothy Keller: https://amzn.to/4ygIDim (https://amzn.to/4ygIDim) As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. FOLLOW THE SHOW YouTube: youtube.com/@biblicalbusinesspodcast Instagram: instagram.com/biblicalbusinesspodcast ADAM WEISNER CEO of Sherman Research. Author of Biblical Business: Seven Unbreakable Laws of Leadership. Instagram: instagram.com/thedispensableceo TikTok: tiktok.com/@thedispensableceo YouTube: youtube.com/@TheDispensableCEO LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/adamweisner Newsletter: adamweisner.substack.com Book: biblicalbusiness.com MCCLAIN MCKINNEY Founder and CEO of Chalant. Instagram: instagram.com/mcclainmckinney TikTok: tiktok.com/@mcclainmckinney YouTube: youtube.com/@McClainMcKinney LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mcclainmckinney Site: mcclainmckinney.com Agency: chalant.us Subscribe, and send this to a business owner who just got asked for a raise.
24 Sept 2026
S1E2 - Atheist to Biblical Business: Adam Weisner's Story
Adam Weisner was a staunch atheist until 18, then kept his faith out of his work for more than 20 years. McClain McKinney asks what changed, and how a kid with a tongue ring ended up opening company meetings in prayer. Adam's answer: in small business you can do whatever you want, "so if you're not bringing Jesus into your business, it's because you've decided not to." For him that shift came four years ago, when he joined C12. He was on Oprah at about 14 as a young Kurt Russell lookalike. He studied string theory to argue with Christians, until physics convinced him something had to exist outside space and time. "He used the very thing that I thought proved that he didn't exist to show me that he did." Then came 18 years of corporate work, from an AT&T Wireless kiosk in a Pomona Walmart to a bank branch after Bank of America bought Countrywide in 2008. McClain admits it took him until last year to see Scripture as applying to his own business, and asks the "dumb question" most owners are thinking: why does a P&L matter if you never spend more than you bring in? A coach at a Fortune 150 bank: "Just because you have a good idea doesn't mean you need to share it." A $60 million company with 400 employees netting $1 million, next to a $6 million company with 12 employees netting twice that. Law three of his book: close the books in seven days, hold seven months of cash, and get paid faster than you pay out. CHAPTERS 00:00 Praying before recording 04:10 "It's not Sunday school. It's daily school." 06:47 On Oprah at 14 12:14 Parenting: finish the season, then decide 17:08 A tongue ring, a tattoo bluff, and Taco Bell 22:09 Atheist until 18, and the physics that changed his mind 25:49 The dentist appointment card 34:21 "There's a lot of fish in the sea" 38:35 Faith, marriage, kids, in that order 48:22 From tongue ring to bank branch manager 51:37 Six months married when Countrywide fails 57:51 The coach who told him not to share every idea 1:01:45 Leaving corporate for automotive suspension 1:05:38 Needs-based selling 1:15:35 "People don't care what you know until they know that you care" 1:19:44 The four leaders who shaped him 1:27:34 One-year goals and monthly cycles 1:30:30 What small businesses lack: conviction 1:37:07 Law three: close the books in seven days 1:43:22 Keeping faith out of work, until C12 1:49:26 Advice to his 18-year-old self FOLLOW THE SHOW YouTube: youtube.com/@biblicalbusinesspodcast Instagram: instagram.com/biblicalbusinesspodcast ADAM WEISNER CEO of Sherman Research. Author of Biblical Business: Seven Unbreakable Laws of Leadership. Instagram: instagram.com/thedispensableceo TikTok: tiktok.com/@thedispensableceo YouTube: youtube.com/@TheDispensableCEO LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/adamweisner Book: biblicalbusiness.com MCCLAIN MCKINNEY Founder and CEO of Chalant. Instagram: instagram.com/mcclainmckinney TikTok: tiktok.com/@mcclainmckinney YouTube: youtube.com/@McClainMcKinney LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mcclainmckinney Agency: chalant.us Send this to an owner who keeps faith and work in separate rooms.
17 Sept 2026
S1E1 - What Separates a Business From a Biblical Business
What separates a business from a biblical business? Adam Weisner's answer is one sentence, and living by it cost him a company. This is episode one. Adam Weisner and McClain McKinney open the show on the question everything else hangs off of. A biblical business, Adam says, is one the owner understands was never his. A business is something a person owns and grows for himself. Then he refuses to let that be a soft answer. You cannot run a biblical business badly. Sloppy books, no processes, nobody minding the marketing, and a cross in the logo is not a biblical business. It is a poorly run business with a cross in the logo. Adam grew up an atheist, climbed to managing director at a Fortune 150 bank, and until about three years ago treated his faith and his work as two separate things. A C12 group finally put them together for him in October 2022. Inside of a year he had sold his ownership in the company he was running and taken over Sherman Research, where 51% of net income goes to advancing the gospel. McClain comes at it from the other direction. On his first job out of college, a director of photography told him the two rules of working on set were no politics and no religion. He was 22, and he wrote it down like it was wisdom. He ran a company for twelve years before he questioned it. Along the way Adam explains why "Christian" in front of a noun came to mean second rate, and calls that a disservice to the creator of the universe. He thinks most Christian business owners quoting "preach the gospel, and when necessary use words" simply do not want to use the words, because words carry consequences. On letting someone go, his position is that showing them Jesus in that meeting is already far too late. McClain brings up the hire he got wrong and the severance he paid anyway, which made no business sense to him until he stopped calling it his money. CHAPTERS 00:00 The difference between a business and a biblical business 03:42 The C12 meeting that turned business into a ministry 07:51 The two rules McClain was handed at 22 14:53 Selling his ownership and taking over Sherman 18:41 The 51%, the teardown rebrand, and Galatians 5 23:07 You cannot run a biblical business badly 23:48 Why "Christian" in front of a noun came to mean subpar 26:24 What people hide behind when they say "when necessary, use words" 32:20 A thousand videos in a year 59:13 AI as commoditization, and why trust becomes the separator 1:06:00 Firing people differently, and what grace is not 1:11:01 Why showing someone Jesus in the termination meeting is too late 1:13:09 The hire McClain got wrong, and the severance that made no sense 1:18:06 "He's been there the whole time. He's just watching us fumble the bag." 1:33:29 The book, and what's next Adam Weisner and McClain McKinney host Biblical Business together. Adam is the CEO of Sherman Research and the author of Biblical Business: Seven Unbreakable Laws of Leadership, at biblicalbusiness.com (http://biblicalbusiness.com). McClain runs the creative agency Chalant and does most of the asking. Every episode is a long conversation with a founder who loves Jesus and is actually building something. Follow the show so you catch the next one.
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