Conversations with leading thinkers on trading and investing. Hosted by Ethan Kho. Produced by Patrick Kho.

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Conversations with leading thinkers on trading and investing. Hosted by Ethan Kho. Produced by Patrick Kho.
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Recent Episodes

July 30, 2026
The Strategy Behind Asia’s $6 Billion Quant Fund: Quantedge
<p>Checkout Flux 4.0 here: https://www.flux.live/Suhaimi Zainul-Abidi is the CEO of Quantedge, the Singapore-based systematic hedge fund that has compounded at roughly 20% net annualized returns for 20 years — growing from $3 million raised from friends and family to over $6 billion in AUM, with close to $5 billion of that from investment gains rather than fundraising. In this episode of Odds on Open, Suhaimi breaks down Quantedge's founding thesis and why the firm's real edge isn't informational: with close to 300 distinct markets traded across equities, commodities, rates and FX, breadth and independent bets let them target ~25% annualized volatility without risk of ruin. We go deep on risk premia and factor-based market-neutral strategies, why economic rationale must come before empirical evidence in the research pipeline, why they refuse to run a black box they can't explain, and how they think about signal versus noise in alternative data, narratives and news flow. Suhaimi also gives a clear-eyed view on generative AI in portfolio management — transformational for research productivity, data cleaning and execution, but deliberately kept out of the production models.The second half is essential listening for emerging managers, allocators and anyone building an asset management business. Suhaimi explains why Quantedge turned down the obvious scaling path — a lower-vol, allocator-friendly product — and why he believes chasing capital on someone else's terms is the mistake that kills early-stage funds. He details the 2018 decision to introduce fixed-term and semi-perpetual share classes, the estimated cost of that call (he thinks they'd be a $20 billion fund without it), and the deeper insight behind it: funds rarely die from drawdowns, they die from redemptions arriving at the worst possible moment. We also cover Class Q and permanent capital as employee alignment, why Quantedge hires almost exclusively out of school rather than poaching mid-career PMs, what a broad definition of meritocracy looks like inside a quant fund, his own path from law to running the firm, capital consolidation and the rise of AI-native allocators, and the case for patience and conviction in building a 50-year compounding machine.00:00 Intro1:34 Founding thesis: $3M to a $6B quant fund6:06 Why the edge is breadth, not information10:40 A Message from ONYX11:20 Scaling to $6B without chasing allocator capital15:25 Why they refuse an allocator-friendly low-vol version18:21 No black boxes: holding conviction at 25% vol23:22 News flow, narratives, and where AI actually helps30:29 Hiring fresh grads and retaining quant talent38:51 From lawyer to CEO of a quant fund49:19 Capital consolidation and the AI-native allocator54:52 The capital trap that kills emerging managers58:54 Fixed-term lockups and why funds actually die1:04:48 Class Q, permanent capital, and employee alignment1:18:59 How to build a 50-year compounding business</p>

July 23, 2026
Ex-Balyasny PM: “Automation will increase demand for hedge fund talent.”
Host Michael Green interviews former Balyasny PM and Imply founder Ying Hua about how hedge funds blend quant and fundamental analysis for alpha generation.

July 16, 2026
~100% Returns in 2025, No Losing Year Since 2008: Erik Smolinski on Edge for Retail Trader Edge
Hedge fund risk manager Erik Smolinski shares his systematic approach to alpha generation and risk mitigation, detailing how he achieved nearly 100% returns by engineering scalable profit mechanisms and navigating market microstructure.
68 total episodes available with 30 transcripts
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