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Welcome to Called to the Workforce podcast, where we talk about how women of faith can develop professional and leadership skills for their careers, volunteer or church service, and lives. Hosted by Emily Chipman, internationally recognized master certified Marshall Goldsmith Stakeholder Centered Coach, and a lifelong LDS Christian who has learned the value of mentors and open conversations to teach women how to build strong careers and strong faith practices that complement each other. Each episode features an in-depth conversation with an LDS Christian woman sharing hard-earned professional and leader development lessons from her work and faith and valuable insights into the roadmap for doing this today. Subscribe to the show on YouTube or your favorite podcast app to catch all of Season 1! <br/><br/><a href="https://calledtotheworkforce.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast">calledtotheworkforce.substack.com</a>

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Episode thumbnail for S2 E4: You got the role. Why don't you feel like it?

March 23, 2026

S2 E4: You got the role. Why don't you feel like it?

<p>New title. Bigger office. Harder decisions.</p><p>And internally?</p><p>Am I actually this person?</p><p>As an executive coach, I see this moment all the time. It doesn’t matter whether it’s a first-time manager, someone stepping into the C-suite, or a woman considering whether she even wants the bigger role.</p><p>Identity doesn’t automatically catch up to opportunity.</p><p>In this episode, I sat down with Dr. Suzy Larson to talk about what she calls <strong>Professional Identity Formation</strong> — the process of learning to think, act, and eventually feel like the role you’ve stepped into.</p><p>And it often starts with a wobble.</p><p>For her, it was a simple doctor’s office form.</p><p>Occupation: __________</p><p>She paused.</p><p>For years she wrote “pharmacist.”</p><p>Now she was in academia.</p><p>Was she still one?</p><p>That tiny hesitation? That’s the moment.</p><p><strong>Four Key Takeaways:</strong></p><p><strong>1. Identity lags behind growth.</strong>You don’t wake up confident just because someone handed you a title. You grow into it. Thinking, acting, and feeling like the role takes repetition and time.</p><p><strong>2. Reflection turns chaos into clarity.</strong>Suzy shared a simple tool: What? So what? Now what?When something shakes you — a promotion, a failure, a pivot — pause. Meaning doesn’t form without reflection.</p><p><strong>3. Who you are at home and who you are at work are not separate.</strong>I loved her DNA helix analogy. Your personal and professional identities twist together. You don’t leave yourself at the door — you refine yourself as you go.</p><p><strong>4. Change the soundtrack.</strong>This one hit. Suzy is actively working to speak to herself the way she speaks to her daughters — with generosity instead of criticism. Identity isn’t just built by competence. It’s reinforced by the story you rehearse every day.</p><p>There’s a line she shared at the end that I haven’t stopped thinking about:</p><p>It’s okay to be both a masterpiece and a work in progress at the same time.</p><p>That might be the most accurate description of leadership I’ve ever heard.</p><p>You are already valuable.</p><p>And you are still becoming.</p><p>Both are true.</p><p><strong>In this episode, we cover:</strong></p><p>[00:02:15] What professional identity formation actually means[00:04:00] The identity wobble moment[00:06:30] Reflection as a development tool[00:08:15] The “What? So what? Now what?” model[00:14:15] Supporting someone in a transition[00:19:45] The DNA helix: personal + professional identity intertwined[00:23:45] Identity-based habits and Atomic Habits[00:28:30] Women, confidence, and shrinking[00:31:30] Anchoring identity in faith[00:39:15] “Masterpiece and work in progress”</p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://calledtotheworkforce.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1">calledtotheworkforce.substack.com</a>

Episode thumbnail for S2 E3 Women Are Great at Building Relationships. We Just Hesitate to Use Them.

March 16, 2026

S2 E3 Women Are Great at Building Relationships. We Just Hesitate to Use Them.

<p>In this episode, I sat down with Kriss Pond to talk about something that I believe quietly shapes careers more than talent alone:</p><p>Professional relationships.</p><p>Not just building them.Leveraging them.</p><p>Kriss has worked in social work, oncology, youth programming, and university housing. Early in her career, she experienced two very different leaders — one who focused almost exclusively on outcomes… and one who understood that outcomes are built on people.</p><p>Nine employees left under the first leader.</p><p>Under the second?People stayed. And they showed up.</p><p>That contrast shaped how Kriss leads — and how she thinks about relationship capital.</p><p><strong>Four Key Takeaways:</strong></p><p><strong>1. Results don’t happen without relationships.</strong>One of the most powerful stories Kriss shared was about a CEO who knew everyone’s name — doctors, custodial staff, cafeteria workers. Not because he had time. Because he knew it mattered. The message was simple: if people don’t feel valued, they eventually leave — physically or emotionally.</p><p><strong>2. Relationship capital is built in the “nanoseconds.”</strong>A head poked into an office. Ten seconds in a hallway. A thoughtful follow-up email. Those tiny interactions are deposits. And when you need something later — that’s when you feel the return.</p><p><strong>3. Leveraging isn’t selfish — it’s strategic.</strong>Kriss didn’t wait for networking magic. When she stepped back into a previous role, she made a 90-day plan and asked herself: Who do I need to be successful? She asked questions. Took people to lunch. Even kept Almond M&Ms in her desk for the IT specialist who kept her department running. That’s not manipulation. That’s understanding how work actually gets done.</p><p><strong>4. Invest in the outcome more than your idea.</strong>This one hit me. Speak up. Offer the idea. Contribute fully. And if the group chooses another direction? Get on board and help make it successful. That’s maturity. That’s influence. That’s leadership.</p><p>One thing I appreciated in this conversation was the reminder that office politics doesn’t have to be dirty.</p><p>It can simply mean:Do you know how things move?Do you know who helps them move?And have you invested enough that when you ask for help, people are glad to give it?</p><p><strong>In this episode, we cover:</strong></p><p>[00:03:30] A first job that revealed the cost of neglecting relationships[00:05:45] A CEO who knew every name — and why that mattered[00:09:30] Building relationships in the margins of busy days[00:14:30] Why women hesitate to leverage their networks[00:19:00] The Almond M&M story — and what happened after she left[00:25:30] The Arbinger pyramid: personal way of being → relationships → teaching → correction[00:36:00] Presenting ideas without over-attaching[00:45:15] Handling disappointment when your idea isn’t chosen[00:47:45] “You add value wherever you go.”</p><p></p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://calledtotheworkforce.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1">calledtotheworkforce.substack.com</a>

Episode thumbnail for S2 E2 Finding Your Leadership Voice

March 9, 2026

S2 E2 Finding Your Leadership Voice

<p>In this episode, I sat down with Dr. Janalee Emmer to talk about something that sounds simple… but is anything but:</p><p>Authenticity at work.</p><p>Not performative confidence.Not copying someone else’s leadership style.But cultivating your voice — and learning when and how to use it.</p><p>Janalee’s career didn’t unfold in a straight line. She explored. She kept multiple tracks open. She built depth in her field while also gaining varied experience. And eventually, she stepped into the role of Director of the BYU Museum of Art — a role that required her to lead in her own way, not her predecessor’s.</p><p>That distinction matters more than we think.</p><p><strong>Four Key Takeaways:</strong></p><p><strong>1. Depth gives you flexibility.</strong>Janalee didn’t stay broad and vague. She chose a field — art history — and then built experience within it. Specificity made her credible. Variety made her adaptable. That combination is what made future leadership possible.</p><p><strong>2. Authentic doesn’t mean unfiltered.</strong>You don’t interact with a university president the same way you interact with your three-year-old niece — and that doesn’t make you fake. It makes you wise. Authenticity isn’t sameness. It’s alignment with your values across different settings.</p><p><strong>3. Practice your voice before the stakes are high.</strong>Janalee talked about learning to speak up respectfully in lower-stakes settings so she could lead effectively in higher-stakes ones. Tone matters. Mission alignment matters. And listening deeply — even when you disagree — builds long-term trust.</p><p><strong>4. Faith requires daily recommitment.</strong>From leaving a tenure-track “dream job” to navigating seasons that didn’t look the way she expected, Janalee shared a powerful reminder: faith is fragile if we don’t choose it daily. Sometimes the most faithful thing we can ask is, What is the one needful thing right now?</p><p>One moment that stayed with me was her reframing of the Mary and Martha story.</p><p>We often praise Mary and quietly criticize Martha.But what if we are both?</p><p>What if leadership requires stillness and action?Focus and forward movement?</p><p>That balance — at work and at home — is part of finding your voice.</p><p><strong>In this episode, we cover:</strong></p><p>[00:02:00] Finding direction without narrowing too soon[00:08:30] Leadership authenticity vs. imitation[00:19:15] Speaking up in high-stakes environments[00:25:00] Navigating disappointment professionally[00:31:15] Faith, unexpected paths, and daily recommitment[00:40:45] Mary & Martha reframed for working women[00:44:03] “You are doing better than you think.”</p><p></p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://calledtotheworkforce.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1">calledtotheworkforce.substack.com</a>

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What is Called to the Workforce?

Welcome to Called to the Workforce podcast, where we talk about how women of faith can develop professional and leadership skills for their careers, volunteer or church service, and lives. Hosted by Emily Chipman, internationally recognized master certified Marshall Goldsmith Stakeholder Centered Coach, and a lifelong LDS Christian who has learned the value of mentors and open conversations to teach women how to build strong careers and strong faith practices that complement each other. Each episode features an in-depth conversation with an LDS Christian woman sharing hard-earned professional and leader development lessons from her work and faith and valuable insights into the roadmap for doing this today. Subscribe to the show on YouTube or your favorite podcast app to catch all of Season 1! <br/><br/><a href="https://calledtotheworkforce.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast">calledtotheworkforce.substack.com</a>

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