CL Talk is the official podcast of Canadian Lawyer magazine. It will hear from leaders in the legal profession in Canada and beyond. Our editorial team interviews legal leaders about topical issues affecting lawyers from coast to coast.

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CL Talk is the official podcast of Canadian Lawyer magazine. It will hear from leaders in the legal profession in Canada and beyond. Our editorial team interviews legal leaders about topical issues affecting lawyers from coast to coast.
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Recent Episodes

June 16, 2026
Allison Speigel on flat fees, fast decisions, and what Big Law can't match
What does a litigation boutique have that a national firm doesn't? In this episode of CL Talk, Speigel Nichols Fox LLP partner Allison Speigel sits down with host Tim Wilbur to argue that the answer lies in speed, aligned incentives, and candour with clients – not scale. Ahead of her panel at the Canadian Legal Summit, the two get into the billing model she built, why flat fees are trickier in litigation than people assume, and where firms of every size still lose people's trust. For more information on the Canadian Legal Summit, visit our website: https://events.canadianlawyermag.com/canadian-legal-summit?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=editorial_article&utm_campaign=CLS2026&utm_content=awareness&utm_term=asset01

June 2, 2026
Erin Cowling on small firms, AI, and the freelance edge
Small and mid-size firms head into 2026 with one advantage their larger competitors can't easily match — the speed to adopt technology, keep what works, and drop what doesn't. In this episode, Tim Wilbur, managing editor of Canadian Lawyer, talks with Erin Cowling, CEO and founder of Flex Legal Network and a former Bay Street litigator, about what's actually changing for small firms and what just looks like noise. Cowling explains how she built a freelance practice into a network of more than 80 lawyers, paralegals, and law clerks, and why she thinks the firms that are pulling ahead treat their practices as businesses first. The conversation covers clients running their invoices through AI to test whether a bill is fair, the wide split between firms that go all-in on AI and those that refuse to touch it, and the "shiny object syndrome" that leads firms to overspend on tools they barely use. Cowling also pushes back on the idea that freelance counsel are junior help and describes the emerging bottleneck: as associates move faster with AI, senior review still can't be automated. Cowling will appear on the panel, "Running a Small Firm in 2026: What's Changing — and What Actually Matters," at the Canadian Legal Summit this October in Toronto. Register here for the Canadian Legal Summit: https://events.canadianlawyermag.com/canadian-legal-summit?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=editorial_article&utm_campaign=CLS2026&utm_content=awareness&utm_term=asset01

May 26, 2026
Matthew Peters on the AI tools McCarthy Tétrault's lawyers are actually using right now
Matthew Peters, partner and national leader of transformation at McCarthy Tétrault LLP, joins Canadian Lawyer managing editor Tim Wilbur to talk about what AI adoption actually looks like inside one of Canada's largest law firms. Peters revisits predictions he made in a 2017 Canadian Lawyer cover story — and explains why his advice has changed. He walks through how the firm manages workflows across multiple AI platforms, the strategic risks of legal technology vendors becoming competitors, what MT❯Forge is designed to do, and why McCarthy Tétrault is co-developing a course with Western Law to address a breakdown in how junior lawyers learn their craft.
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