Curious to Serious
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<p>We interview students & professionals in the psychedelic space to better understand how they navigated the path from being curious about psychedelics to wanting to dedicate their career to psychedelics.</p><p>Join the community at psychedelicgrad.com.</p>
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June 11, 2024
Episode 31: Gina Gratza - Marriage and Family Therapy | Oregon Psilocybin Facilitator | Psychedelic Integration and Coaching
<p>In this episode, I talk with Gina Gratza, who specializes in psychedelic-assisted facilitation.</p><p>In our conversation, Gina tells us about the many different organizations she is involved in and the work she does with them, including psychedelic integration and coaching, being an Oregon Psilocybin Facilitator, working with the Social Neuroscience and Psychotherapy Lab, and serving as Program Coordinator and Lead Educator at InnerTrek.</p><p>Gina also highlights many of the influential experiences and trainings that inform the work she does from an internship at a treatment center for eating disorders to trainings in eye movement desensitization and reprocessing (EMDR), Internal Family Systems (IFS), sensory psychotherapy, and Marriage and Family Therapy (MFT).</p><p>Gina also shares how she came to psychedelics after attending Burning Man and having an enlightening experience. This leads our conversation to recognize the infinite paths one can take to finding their place in the psychedelic field as well as exploring consciousness. We also touch on the importance of recognizing our shadow selves and the shadow side of psychedelics.</p><p>Finally, Gina reflects on the future of psychedelics and her hope for the Oregon Psilocybin Facilitation program to inform future programs in other states and the vision for psychedelics to promote deeper community healing.</p><p><br/></p><p>Time Stamps:</p><p>(4:21) Gina’s involvement in various organizations within the psychedelic field</p><p>(7:51) The importance of working with women and creating community spaces for identity expression in psychedelic integration and support</p><p>(25:14) How psychedelics play a role in Gina’s work: doing your own work with psychedelics and consciousness and logistics of having two businesses while being a licensed therapist</p><p>(46:27) Internships and trainings that influence Gina’s work</p><p>(57:27) Advice on how to find trainings and grow your skillset</p><p>(1:08:40) How Gina became curious about psychedelics: Burning Man, integrating into the underground nightlife in Los Angeles, and recognizing the different ways to engage in plan medicines and psychedelics</p><p>(1:19:04) The shadow side of psychedelics: navigating psychedelic hype, managing expectations, the variety of modalities for healing trauma and exploring consciousness</p><p>(1:41:12) Future of the psychedelic field and Gina’s work</p><p>(1:49:47) Gina’s last piece of advice: remember to play</p><p><br/></p><p>Links:</p><p><a href='https://www.chrisstauffermd.com/'>Social Neuroscience and Psychotherapy Lab</a></p><p><a href='https://www.coracenter.org/'>Cora Center</a></p><p><a href='https://www.chariotspace.com/'>Chariot</a></p><p><a href='https://www.innertrek.org/'>InnerTrek</a></p><p><a href='https://www.oregon.gov/oha/ph/preventionwellness/pages/oregon-psilocybin-services.aspx'>Oregon’s Legal Psilocybin Website</a>: <br/><br/>Trainings:<br/><br/><a href='https://www.emdr.com/what-is-emdr/'>EMDR</a><br/><br/><a href='https://sensorimotorpsychotherapy.org/'>Sensory psychotherapy</a></p><p><a href='https://www.somaticexperiencing.com/somatic-experiencing'>Somatic experiencing</a></p><p><a href='https://ifs-institute.com/'>IFS</a></p><p><a href='https://www.francisweller.net/'>Grief work</a></p><p><br/>Connect with Gina:</p><p>Website: <a href='http://www.ginagratza.com/'>www.ginagratza.com</a></p><p><a href='http://www.linkedin.com/in/gina-gratza-704a621b4'>LinkedIn</a></p><p>Instagram: @gina.gratza</p><p><br/></p><p>To learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to <a href='https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/'>https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/</a></p><p>To donate and support Psychedelic Grad: <a href='https://www.buymeacoffee.com/psygrad'>https://www.buymeacoffee.com/psygrad</a></p><p>Music by: <a href='https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/'>https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/</a></p><p>Presented by Psychedelic Grad.</p>
March 5, 2024
Jonathan Robinson - Marriage and Family Therapy | MDMA Facilitation | Ecstasy as Medicine
<p>In this episode, I talk with Jonathan Robinson, the author of 14 books and a marriage and family therapist located in California.</p><p><br/></p><p>In our conversation, Jonathan tells us about his work in bringing together MDMA experiences and therapy. He discusses how his protocol is unique to other work being done with psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy by emphasizing therapeutic modalities.</p><p><br/></p><p>We also talk about Jonathan’s online course on MDMA facilitation and how he created it for anyone passionate about helping others heal. Additionally, we talk about Jonathan’s newest book, <em>Ecstasy as Medicine</em>, a valuable resource filled with 40 years of knowledge and experience to aid others in healing and self-discovery.</p><p><br/></p><p>We cover Jonathan’s journey to finding meditation and psychedelics in pursuit of healing his trauma from growing up in a dysfunctional family and his masters thesis research on MDMA therapy in the 1980s.</p><p><br/></p><p>Throughout our conversation, we highlight valuable advice from Jonathan, like 5 second methods for gratitude and happiness and finding supportive communities to help ourselves strengthen our weaknesses.</p><p><br/></p><p>Finally, Jonathan reflects on the future of psychedelics and how he plans to continue to provide accessible knowledge and education to those interested in helping others.</p><p><br/></p><p>Time Stamps:</p><p>(4:44) Jonathan’s work as a marriage and family therapist and how he integrates MDMA into his practice and how he keeps his work legal</p><p>(8:46) The value of doing MDMA therapy over zoom and how to manage safety and challenging experiences in a virtual therapy session</p><p>(17:51) What makes Jonathan’s protocol of MDMA therapy different from the MAPS protocol</p><p>(24:04) Jonathan’s online MDMA facilitation course - what is it and who is it for?</p><p>(32:21) Perspectives on therapists and sitters having experience with psychedelics when working with patients or clients</p><p>(34:58) Jonathan’s newest book - <em>Ecstasy as Medicine</em></p><p>(44:10) The beauty of Jonathan’s parents trying MDMA</p><p>(47:04) How Jonathan found psychedelics - healing trauma from a dysfunctional family to studying psychology at the University of California Santa Barbara</p><p>(51:23) A 5 second method for gratitude</p><p>(59:02) Jonathan’s master's thesis on MDMA therapy </p><p>(1:00:18) Additional education and the value of experiential learning - undergraduate degree in Psychology and a non-accredited PhD in recreational pharmacology</p><p>(1:03:30) Advice on finding a balance between experiential knowledge and formal education - finding supportive communities to strengthen your weaknesses</p><p>(1:09:05) The future of psychedelics and Jonathan’s desire to continue educating others</p><p>(1:16:55) Jonathan’s last advice - keep exploring</p><p><br/></p><p>Links:</p><p>Healing with MDMA Course: <a href='https://dandelion.events/e/mdmacourse'>https://dandelion.events/e/mdmacourse</a></p><p>Book Ecstasy as Medicine: <a href='https://ecstasyasmedicine.com/'>https://ecstasyasmedicine.com/</a></p><p>Website: <a href='http://XTCasmedicine.com'>XTCasmedicine.com</a></p><p>Podcast - Awareness Explorers: <a href='https://www.awarenessexplorers.com/'>https://www.awarenessexplorers.com/</a></p><p>Website: <a href='https://findinghappiness.com/'>https://findinghappiness.com/</a></p><p>To learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to <a href='https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/'>https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/</a></p><p>To donate and support Psychedelic Grad: <a href='https://www.buymeacoffee.com/psygrad'>https://www.buymeacoffee.com/psygrad</a></p><p>Music by: <a href='https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/'>https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/</a></p><p>Presented by Psychedelic Grad.</p>
March 5, 2024
Episode 30: Jonathan Robinson - Marriage and Family Therapy | MDMA Facilitation | Ecstasy as Medicine
<p>In this episode, I talk with Jonathan Robinson, the author of 14 books and a marriage and family therapist located in California.</p><p><br/></p><p>In our conversation, Jonathan tells us about his work in bringing together MDMA experiences and therapy. He discusses how his protocol is unique to other work being done with psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy by emphasizing therapeutic modalities.</p><p><br/></p><p>We also talk about Jonathan’s online course on MDMA facilitation and how he created it for anyone passionate about helping others heal. Additionally, we talk about Jonathan’s newest book, <em>Ecstasy as Medicine</em>, a valuable resource filled with 40 years of knowledge and experience to aid others in healing and self-discovery.</p><p><br/></p><p>We cover Jonathan’s journey to finding meditation and psychedelics in pursuit of healing his trauma from growing up in a dysfunctional family and his masters thesis research on MDMA therapy in the 1980s.</p><p><br/></p><p>Throughout our conversation, we highlight valuable advice from Jonathan, like 5 second methods for gratitude and happiness and finding supportive communities to help ourselves strengthen our weaknesses.</p><p><br/></p><p>Finally, Jonathan reflects on the future of psychedelics and how he plans to continue to provide accessible knowledge and education to those interested in helping others.</p><p><br/></p><p>Time Stamps:</p><p>(4:44) Jonathan’s work as a marriage and family therapist and how he integrates MDMA into his practice and how he keeps his work legal</p><p>(8:46) The value of doing MDMA therapy over zoom and how to manage safety and challenging experiences in a virtual therapy session</p><p>(17:51) What makes Jonathan’s protocol of MDMA therapy different from the MAPS protocol</p><p>(24:04) Jonathan’s online MDMA facilitation course - what is it and who is it for?</p><p>(32:21) Perspectives on therapists and sitters having experience with psychedelics when working with patients or clients</p><p>(34:58) Jonathan’s newest book - <em>Ecstasy as Medicine</em></p><p>(44:10) The beauty of Jonathan’s parents trying MDMA</p><p>(47:04) How Jonathan found psychedelics - healing trauma from a dysfunctional family to studying psychology at the University of California Santa Barbara</p><p>(51:23) A 5 second method for gratitude</p><p>(59:02) Jonathan’s master's thesis on MDMA therapy </p><p>(1:00:18) Additional education and the value of experiential learning - undergraduate degree in Psychology and a non-accredited PhD in recreational pharmacology</p><p>(1:03:30) Advice on finding a balance between experiential knowledge and formal education - finding supportive communities to strengthen your weaknesses</p><p>(1:09:05) The future of psychedelics and Jonathan’s desire to continue educating others</p><p>(1:16:55) Jonathan’s last advice - keep exploring</p><p><br/></p><p>Links:</p><p>Healing with MDMA Course: <a href='https://dandelion.events/e/mdmacourse'>https://dandelion.events/e/mdmacourse</a></p><p>Book Ecstasy as Medicine: <a href='https://ecstasyasmedicine.com/'>https://ecstasyasmedicine.com/</a></p><p>Website: <a href='http://XTCasmedicine.com'>XTCasmedicine.com</a></p><p>Podcast - Awareness Explorers: <a href='https://www.awarenessexplorers.com/'>https://www.awarenessexplorers.com/</a></p><p>Website: <a href='https://findinghappiness.com/'>https://findinghappiness.com/</a></p><p>To learn more about Psychedelic Grad or to join our newsletter, go to <a href='https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/'>https://www.psychedelicgrad.com/</a></p><p>To donate and support Psychedelic Grad: <a href='https://www.buymeacoffee.com/psygrad'>https://www.buymeacoffee.com/psygrad</a></p><p>Music by: <a href='https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/'>https://www.alexkahnmusic.com/</a></p><p>Presented by Psychedelic Grad.</p>
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