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- 2024
- First episode
About Dangerous Liaisons
Ever feel like theory doesn't match real life? As a criminology researcher specialising in violence against women and girls, I talk to frontline workers and researchers around the world about what's actually happening on the ground. We get into the challenges, the progress, and the things that never make it into official reports. It's honest, unscripted, and real.
- Publisher
- Caroline Saul
- Category
- science
- Language
- en
- Explicit
- No
- First episode
- 15 Apr 2024
- Latest episode
- 6 Nov 2024
Latest episodes
19 episodes in the feed.

6 Nov 2024
Fighting for Women's Justice with Harriet Wistrich
Join us as Caroline talks with Harriet Wistrich (https://www.centreforwomensjustice.org.uk/harriet-wistrich), solicitor and Founder of the Centre for Women's Justice, about her journey into law and feminism. Harriet shares her thoughts about the systemic failures of the criminal justice system in addressing violence against women, the importance of police accountability, and the legal challenges faced by women in abusive relationships. Discover the vital work of the Justice for Women campaign and learn how myths surrounding domestic violence impact societal perceptions. This episode supports advocacy for women's rights. Sister in Law: Fighting for Justice in a System Designed by Men - BOOK (https://www.waterstones.com/book/sister-in-law/harriet-wistrich/9781911709268) 2024 Police Perpetrated Domestic Abuse – has anything changed? Systemic failures continue and victim/survivor confidence remains disturbingly low (https://www.centreforwomensjustice.org.uk/news/2024/9/13/police-perpetrated-domestic-abuse-has-anything-changed-systemic-failures-continue-and-victimsurvivor-confidence-remains-disturbingly-low)

30 Oct 2024
The Recovery Toolkit with Sue Penna
In this conversation, Caroline and Sue Penna, author of The Recovery Toolkit, discuss the complex realities of domestic abuse, trauma, and recovery. Sue shares both her personal journey and professional experience, having spent over 20 years in NHS Mental Health Services, to emphasise the importance of trauma-informed care. They explore the need for systemic change to better support survivors and the powerful role language plays in shaping our understanding of trauma and recovery. The conversation highlights the impact of trauma on mental health, the feminist movement's advocacy for change, and the importance of improved police training to address domestic abuse. Sue also details the fragility of stability in the lives of those affected by abuse and underscores the importance of innovative, supportive approaches. Resources: The Recovery Toolkit (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Recovery-Toolkit-support-journey-Domestic/dp/1838025006)- A 12-week plan to support your journey from domestic abuse Rock Pool (https://rockpool.life/) - Committed to training front-line workers in trauma-informed care

23 Oct 2024
Feminism isn't just for women and girls with JoJo Kirkley
In this episode, JoJo Kirtley, founder of Workie Ticket Theatre, shares her journey from a youth worker and teacher to an influential figure in theatre for social change. She discusses working in collaboration with local universities and the challenges faced by women in the family court system, the importance of engaging young people in discussions about misogyny, and her commitment to preserving women's stories through theatre. JoJo emphasises the need for equity in feminism and the importance of honest conversations about gender-based violence. She also reflects on her individual experiences and aspirations for the future, including her exploration in global approaches to better managing gender-based violence through theatre. Learn more here Workie Ticket Theatre CIC (https://www.workietickettheatre.com/) The wrong type Walk the line Her primal scream, winning 2** awards! Heritage (new)

16 Oct 2024
Let's Talk About Consent with El Bertsa-Fuchs
In this episode host Caroline Saul sits down with El, co-founder of Let's Talk About X (https://www.talkaboutx.org/), to explore the essential topics of consent education and LGBTIQA+ inclusion. El shares their journey from high school teachers to advocates, highlighting the need for a cultural shift in how globally we teach young people about sex, consent and inclusivity. They discuss Australia’s move towards affirmative consent laws, the importance of gender-neutral language in education, and the ongoing challenges faced by the LGBTIQA+ community. Tune in for an engaging conversation that inspires and encourages change and greater understanding about how to use consent.

9 Oct 2024
Understanding Strangulation with Kathleen Monahan
In this episode, Caroline engages with Kathleen, a LA Clinical Social Worker and faculty at Stony Brook University teaching trauma courses and has a long standing course on child and adult sexual violence and long term acute and long term sequela. Together they discuss the issues of strangulation. Kathleen explains that a perpetrator’s remorse does not diminish the gravity of their actions and the seriousness of this crime. Kathleen invites you to read the research of Gail Strach and George McLean (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11604294/), who have established guidelines for investigating strangulation cases. Furthermore, Kathleen calls attention to the significant need for further research into the neurological effects of strangulation on victims, emphasising the urgency of understanding these impacts for later life, and the development of dementia in victims. Content note: "Please be mindful of your emotional well-being during this session, as we will cover sensitive topics related to strangulation, its impacts, and dynamics, including intersections with other crimes."

2 Oct 2024
Empowering Women Through Financial Freedom with Aoife Gaffney
In this episode of Dangerous Liaisons, host Caroline Saul interviews Aoife Gaffney (https://prudencemoneypenny.com/), a renowned money and divorce coach from Ireland, to discuss her inspiring journey and transformative coaching practice. Aoife shares insights on financial independence for women, the importance of setting boundaries around money, and how mindset plays a critical role in overcoming financial struggles. She also discusses NLP, EFT, which can support women through these life transitions. Aoife asks you to support Hopeful Handbags (https://www.hopefullhandbags.org/) initiative, which donates handbags filled with essentials to women in need, you can fill these bags with anything you feel women fleeing domestic violence and abuse may need - makeup,

25 Sept 2024
Reproductive Coercion with Lynn Stroud
In this episode, we have the honour of hearing from Lynn, a survivor who bravely shares her experience of intimate partner abuse, stalking, rape, and reproductive coercion. Lynn opens up about the intense emotional challenges she faced, navigating a relationship defined by control, fear, and incredibly difficult choices about her body and her future. This conversation is raw and honest, touching on the complexities of survival and the resilience it takes to reclaim your life after trauma. Content Note: You may find these topics distressing, triggering or emotionally challenging. If you know that you are likely to find this content challenging, then please consider carefully how you might want to engage with it.

28 Aug 2024
Red Flag Behaviours with Rie Pearson
In this heart-led episode of Dangerous Liaisons, host Caroline Saul welcomes Rie Pearson (https://riepearson.com/), a retired police officer and dedicated advocate for domestic abuse awareness. Together, they explore the important topics of recognising and addressing domestic violence. Rie shares her experiences from her career in law enforcement and talks about her book (https://riepearson.com/shop/) where she shares five experiences from women, which helps people understand or recognise red flags in relationships. The conversation touches on the challenges faced by victims of abuse and the crucial role of supporting and believing those who reach out. They also talk about the escalation of violence against women and girls and the importance of better media representation that avoids stereotypes and victim-blaming. The episode addresses the difficulties of leaving abusive relationships, the significance of emotional resilience and self-care, and Rie’s inspiring WOW Festival vision and to have her ABC program included in school curriculums to educate young people about abuse. Join us for a thoughtful and compassionate conversation about the need for awareness, education, and support in tackling domestic abuse. Resources Mentioned Learn more about Rie’s educational initiative aimed at preventing domestic abuse. The ABC Program (https://riepearson.com/abc-program/) A resource for survivors of domestic abuse to find support and empowerment. Find Your Voice (https://riepearson.com/find-your-voice-program/) Practical tips on identifying potentially abusive behaviours early in relationships. Recognising Red Flags In Dating! (https://riepearson.com/red-flags-at-the-start/)

31 Jul 2024
In The Firing Line (Time To Go!) with Caroline Saul
Content Warning: This podcast contains discussions of animal cruelty, sexual violence, and baby loss, which some listeners may find distressing. Listener discretion is advised. Your host Caroline Saul (https://carolinesaul.com/) gave a talk at the Northumbria Stalking Interventions Programme Launch, sharing her personal experiences as a stalking victim and survivor. She emphasised the importance of understanding the unspoken needs and concerns of victims, as well as the dismissive attitudes and biases they often encounter from Police officers. Caroline highlighted missing people statistics and the need for a comprehensive trauma informed approach to stalking cases, recognising their sporadic and historic nature. She discussed the impact of isolation and the challenges faced in rural areas with limited access to emergency services. Caroline called for greater awareness, compassion, and connection to support stalking victims and survivors.

25 Jul 2024
He was the hunter, and I was the hunted, with Dr Ann Moulds
Content Warning: This episode contains discussions of stranger stalking, sexual violence references, and explicit descriptions of a sex room. Listener discretion is advised. Ann Moulds, founder of Action Against Stalking (https://www.actionagainststalking.org/help-and-support), shares her personal experience of being a victim of stalking and the flaws in the criminal justice system. She highlights the lack of recognition and support for stalking victims and the dismissive attitudes of the police. Ann's advocacy led to the introduction of stalking as a distinct and standalone crime in Scotland and other European countries. She emphasises the importance of victim impact and trauma-informed approaches in addressing stalking. Ann's work included training law enforcement, raising awareness, and providing support to stalking victims. The conversation explores the different types of stalking and challenges the misconception that stalking is solely related to domestic abuse. It highlights the need for a comprehensive understanding of stalking and the importance of separating it from domestic violence. The guests discuss the need for a unified approach to stalking laws and the importance of empowering victims to speak out and seek support. They also address the myths surrounding stalking, including the idea that it only occurs in ex-partner relationships. The conversation concludes with a call to action to create a safer environment for women and to raise awareness about stalking. Takeaways Stalking is a psychological crime that causes significant harm to victims, including psychological, physical, and social effects. Victims of stalking often face dismissive attitudes from the police and a lack of support from the criminal justice system. Advocacy and raising awareness are crucial in bringing about change and recognition for stalking victims. The introduction of stalking as a distinct and standalone crime in legislation is a significant step towards addressing the issue. A trauma-informed approach and victim impact should be prioritised in addressing stalking cases. Stalking is not limited to domestic abuse and can occur in various contexts, including stranger stalking and stalking by family members, friends, work colleagues or acquaintances. There is a need for a unified approach to stalking laws to ensure consistency and effectiveness across different jurisdictions. Empowering victims to speak out and seek support is crucial in addressing stalking and holding perpetrators accountable. It is important to challenge myths and misconceptions about stalking, such as the belief that it only occurs in ex-partner relationships. Creating a safer environment for women and raising awareness about stalking are essential in preventing and addressing this crime.

19 Jun 2024
Stress and The Conscious Mind with Ruth Fogg
In this episode, Ruth (https://www.stressworx.co.uk/) discusses her diverse background. As a qualified therapist, she offers individual therapy to adults, teenagers, and children, addressing issues such as negative behaviour patterns, fears, phobias, low self-esteem, and panic attacks. Don’t miss her invaluable advice on managing stress and improving mental well-being.

12 Jun 2024
Rape, Recovery & Resilience with Madeleine Black
**Please note: This episode contains sensitive topics and listener discretion is advised.** This episode talks openly about rape, recovery, and the resilience needed to overcome fear and move forward in life. Please prioritise your wellbeing first. Madeleine's journey is truly remarkable. Despite facing adversity at a young age, she found the strength within herself to not only overcome her past but also to thrive and find happiness. Her incredible level of empathy and compassion is evident in her story and actions. She eloquently summarises her philosophy with these words: “It’s not what happens to us that is important, but what we do with what happens to us and if we choose to, we can get past anything that happens to us in life.” – Madeleine Black (https://www.linkedin.com/in/madeleineblackspeaker444/) Madeleine also uses her experiences to inspire and motivate others, demonstrating that it is possible to transform pain into power and suffering into strength. Her story serves as a cultivator of courage and resilience for many women and girls who have been sexually abused. For more about Madeleine and her work, you can visit her website (https://madeleineblack.co.uk/). Her book, Unbroken, is her personal journey, offering a powerful narrative of survival and resilience. You can also watch her TEDx talks here: Unbroken – Speaking the Unspeakable | Madeleine Black | TEDxGlasgow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmcY35R9k1U) Why I'm Shaming Shame | Madeleine Black | TEDxUniversityofGlasgow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwdEV8NTC0U)

29 May 2024
How To Use Social Media & The Internet Safely with Dr Hossam Elshenraki
**Please note: This episode contains sensitive topics about child trafficking and listener discretion is advised.** In this episode, Hossam explains the differences between analysis and encryption in home smart technology, highlighting their impacts on privacy and security. We also discuss the hidden costs of mobile phone free apps and who can really access your information.

24 May 2024
Women Who Kill with Dr Kathryn Whiteley
**Please note: This episode contains sensitive topics and listener discretion is advised.** With extensive research conducted in three countries and within maximum-security prisons, Kathryn (https://www.kathrynmwhiteley.com/) brings a unique perspective to this conversation as we discuss the lives of women during incarceration We'd like to remind you that this episode contains discussions that may be triggering, particularly as we touch on sensitive topics such as Stalking, violence and murder. Kathryn's touches on her documentary "Until We Have Faces" that explores the spiritual and corporeal identities of women serving life sentences in a United States maximum security prison. Women tell their personal stories as they reflect upon their humanity, their past and incarceration. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC34QOLmFRM Don't forget to subscribe to Dangerous Liaisons!

16 May 2024
West Yorkshire Victim Support with Ady Lowe
Today we're privileged to talk to Ady who is a dedicated Independent Stalking Advocate, working with victims and survivors of crime and traumatic incidents. Here he shares the work undertaken to keep people in the community safe.

8 May 2024
How people are groomed into sex trafficking with Adam Zarnowski
**Please note: This episode contains sensitive topics and listener discretion is advised.** In this episode, Adam Zarnowski, a former US intelligence officer specialising in human trafficking, provides a pragmatic approach to understanding predatory behaviour, grooming and combating the various forms of exploitation. With expertise spanning intelligence, psychology, and social work, Adam discusses the realities faced by victims and emphasises the need for tailored interventions addressing root causes. By advocating for evidence-based strategies and collaborative efforts, Adam urges you to take practical steps towards ending human trafficking and promoting justice for vulnerable populations worldwide.

1 May 2024
Why we shouldn't only rely on Mullens 5 Stalking Typologies with Linda Sage
In this conversation, Criminal psychologist Linda Sage explains that while Mullen et al.'s 5 stalking typologies offer valuable insights, it's important to recognise that stalking behaviours are often complex and can't always be neatly categorised. She further explains that individuals may exhibit behaviours from multiple typologies or transition between them over time and can cause great social harms. Rather than rigid labels, these typologies should be used as tools for understanding and assessing stalking dynamics, allowing for tailored interventions and ongoing evaluation to ensure victim safety.

24 Apr 2024
Your First Date and Staying Safe with Dr. Cliff Lansley
Join me for a conversation with Dr. Cliff Lansley, a body language analyst, on how to stay safe when meeting new people. Many of us rely on intuition when something feels off about others. In this episode, we will discuss subconscious signals that indicate deception or malintent. With extensive experience in military, intelligence, and law enforcement, where accurate judgement is crucial, his approaches are reliable. He also serves as a scientific adviser for the Discovery Channel's real crime documentaries, "Faking It." You can find his full bio below. Our discussion will cover strategies to use before, during, and after meeting someone face-to-face, ensuring you remain cautious without deterring genuine people. Body language and 6 channels Link (https://www.eiagroup.com/detect-lies-using-body-language/ ) Cliff Lansley PhD in Emotional Role: EIA Group - Director. (https://www.eiagroup.com/about/) Skills: Emotional Intelligence, Deception Detection, Casual Questioning Strategies. His first honours degree was in Education(Psychology) with the University of Manchester (http://www.manchester.ac.uk/) which he did post-experience whilst employed as a lecturer in leadership and management in higher education, following ten years in the industry. Seven years later he then returned to the private sector with a government research grant to develop competent-based approaches and diagnostic tools for leaders, managers and HR professionals under one of the companies he founded, named Development Processes Group plc (DPG), which is still leading its field in the UK as a multi-million-pound operation, with Cliff as Chairman, Director and a major Shareholder. He retired as CEO of DPG in 2008, at the age of forty-nine to follow his passion in Emotional Intelligence(EI), driven to join the research community to help convince leaders, police, teachers, social workers, etc. that EI is not a ‘soft skill’, but a key differentiator between competent and excellence. He has since sold DPG to enable a merger, making the joint enterprise the UK market leader in the HR business sector. He is motivated to draw on his experience as a successful business leader, an educationalist and a psychologist to leverage good scientific research and make a contribution to the excellent work being done by Mayer, Salovey, Caruso, Bar-On, Goleman, etc., to bring a new EI taxonomy and diagnostic methodology for EI that can stand up to the conflict and critiques across the existing models. He co-founded the Emotional Intelligence Academy in 2008 and partnered with Dr Paul Ekman on a ten year project to help Dr Ekman’s research reach all continents in eight languages as training courses.

15 Apr 2024
Introducing Dangerous Liaisons
Dangerous Liaisons offers an educational platform where listeners uncover the realities of society, culture, and relationships, alongside exploring the perspectives of those seeking understanding of their personal experiences. This involves the motivations behind individuals perpetuating violence, stalking, emotional abuse, and the use of weapons or third-parties to terrorise others, often leading to homicide or femicide.
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