by Charlie Charly
Diving Deep Podcast with Charlie and Charly dive deep into subjects that some people aren't willing to discover, because they are unwilling to hear the truth. "And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." - 2 Timothy 4:4
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July 3, 2026
<p>In this episode, we continue our journey through the King James Bible by exploring the Book of Ruth through two very different lenses: the carnal traditional interpretation taught in modern Christianity and the symbolic, spiritual interpretation as intended by God through the teachings of Tyler Doka.</p><p>Most readers know Ruth as a beautiful story of loyalty, redemption, and divine providence. It is the account of a Moabite woman who leaves her homeland, remains faithful to her mother-in-law Naomi, finds favor with Boaz, and ultimately becomes part of the lineage of King David and Jesus Christ.</p><p>But what if the Book of Ruth was never a historical account?</p><p>What if Ruth represents the soul seeking truth? What if Moab symbolizes separation from understanding, Bethlehem represents spiritual nourishment, and Boaz reveals a deeper picture of redemption that takes place within?</p><p>Together, we examine key passages from the King James Bible and compare how they are commonly understood versus through a spiritual lens. Along the way, we discuss themes such as loyalty, covenant, redemption, inheritance, faith, spiritual transformation, and the journey from separation into truth.</p><p>Whether you view Ruth as carnal history or symbolically, this conversation invites you to look deeper and ask an important question:</p><p><strong>Are we reading the Book of Ruth as a story that supposedly happened in the past, or is it really a story that represents what happens within?</strong></p><p><strong>Sources referenced in this episode:</strong></p><p>New Jerusalem by Tyler Doka</p><p><a href="https://archive.org/details/new-jerusalem-by-tyler-doka"><u>https://archive.org/details/new-jerusalem-by-tyler-doka</u></a> </p><p>New Jerusalem on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/216kGrK3IsF3cyFSl4XXvL"><u>https://open.spotify.com/show/216kGrK3IsF3cyFSl4XXvL</u></a> </p><p>King James Bible</p><p><a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/"><u>https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org</u></a> </p><p>TARTARIA: Is All Of Recorded History A Lie? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FwC-qwgNzA"><u>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FwC-qwgNzA</u></a> </p><p><br></p><p>#BookOfRuth #KingJamesBible #TylerDoka #NewJerusalem #BibleStudy #SpiritualInterpretation #Christianity #BiblicalSymbolism #Ruth #Boaz #Naomi #CarnallyVsSpiritually</p><p><br></p>
June 26, 2026
<p>Charlie and Charly continue this series through each book of the King James Bible by turning their focus to the <strong>Book of Judges, </strong>a powerful and deeply symbolic book that chronicles Israel’s repeated cycle of sin, oppression, repentance, and deliverance.</p><p>In this episode, the Book of Judges is explored through two distinct lenses: the traditional historical interpretation taught in Christianity, Catholicism, and the Hebrew Bible, and the symbolic spiritual interpretation taught by Tyler Doka in New Jerusalem and his podcast teachings. </p><p>Traditionally, Judges is understood as the historical story of Israel after the death of Joshua, a nation repeatedly falling into idolatry, suffering oppression from surrounding nations, and being rescued by judges raised up by God. But according to Tyler’s framework, these stories are not merely external events or military conflicts. Instead, they describe the unseen spiritual condition within man. </p><p>We examine the major stories and figures of Judges, including:</p><ul><li><p>Othniel</p></li><li><p>Ehud and King Eglon</p></li><li><p>Deborah and Barak</p></li><li><p>Gideon and the 300</p></li><li><p>Jephthah’s vow</p></li><li><p>Samson and Delilah </p></li></ul><p>Each story is analyzed from both perspectives:</p><ul><li><p>The carnal reading, where Israel battles physical enemies and experiences historical events</p></li><li><p>The spiritual reading, where the battles represent internal warfare, spiritual blindness, deception, temptation, and awakening to truth </p></li></ul><p>The episode also explores Tyler Doka’s repeated teaching that:</p><ul><li><p>The natural man reads Scripture carnally</p></li><li><p>The true battlefield is spiritual rather than physical</p></li><li><p>The Bible describes the unseen reality within man</p></li></ul><p>Throughout the discussion, the hosts compare:</p><ul><li><p>Physical enemies vs spiritual blindness</p></li><li><p>Military conflict vs internal struggle</p></li><li><p>National Israel vs the inner man</p></li><li><p>External deliverance vs spiritual awakening</p></li></ul><p>Citations</p><p>New Jerusalem by Tyler Doka</p><p><a href="https://archive.org/details/new-jerusalem-by-tyler-doka"><u>https://archive.org/details/new-jerusalem-by-tyler-doka</u></a> </p><p>New Jerusalem on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/216kGrK3IsF3cyFSl4XXvL"><u>https://open.spotify.com/show/216kGrK3IsF3cyFSl4XXvL</u></a> </p><p>King James Bible</p><p><a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org"><u>https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org</u></a> </p><p><br></p>
June 19, 2026
<p>In this episode, the Charlie and Charly continue their series through the King James Bible by taking a deep dive into the <strong>Book of Joshua</strong>, examining its content through two distinct lenses: the carnal historical interpretation taught across modern religion, including Christian denominations, Catholicism, internet pastors, and the Tanakh, and the symbolic, spiritual interpretation presented in Tyler Doka’s teachings.</p><p>Traditionally, the Book of Joshua is understood as a historical account of Israel’s conquest of Canaan and their transition from wilderness wandering into the Promised Land. It is taught as a record of military victories, physical land inheritance, and God’s direct intervention in human history.</p><p>In contrast, this episode explores Tyler Doka’s teaching that <strong>the entire Bible is a spiritual account</strong>, not a record of physical events. Scripture, according to this framework, must be understood by “comparing spiritual things with spiritual,” where the natural man reads the text carnally, while the spiritual man perceives the unseen reality behind the symbols. </p><p>The hosts walk through the major themes of Joshua, including God’s promise, leadership, obedience, faith, divine intervention, miracles, judgment, inheritance, and covenant renewal—presenting each in its traditional (carnal) understanding and then re‑examining it as a symbolic representation of inner spiritual realities. </p><p>Additional discussion includes scholarly perspectives that challenge conventional views of biblical authorship, canon formation, and historical dating. This includes analysis of:</p><ul><li>The authorship and composition of the Pentateuch</li><li>The development of scriptural authority in early Judaism</li><li>The limitations of radiocarbon dating in establishing historical timelines</li></ul><p>The episode also connects to earlier discussions from this series, including the idea that historical narratives may have been altered, reconstructed, or shaped over time, and that much of what is accepted as ancient history may not be as fixed or reliable as commonly believed. </p><p>As stated throughout the series, the goal is not to present original ideas, but to examine the Bible through the teachings of Tyler Doka, whose interpretation has generated significant controversy, particularly due to his claim of being the “Word made flesh.” While many have dismissed his teachings without examination, the hosts have chosen to study them in depth and present them for comparison. </p><p>Ultimately, this episode invites listeners to reconsider the Book of Joshua:</p><p>Is the historical account of physical conquest the lies of man… or is the Bible really a symbolic description of the believer’s journey into spiritual understanding?</p><p><br></p><p>Citations</p><p>New Jerusalem by Tyler Doka</p><p><a href="https://archive.org/details/new-jerusalem-by-tyler-doka"><u>https://archive.org/details/new-jerusalem-by-tyler-doka</u></a> </p><p>King James Bible</p><p><a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org"><u>https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org</u></a> </p><p>Redating the Radiocarbon Dating of The Dead Sea Scrolls</p><p><a href="https://www.academia.edu/82955757/Redating_the_Radiocarbon_Dating_of_The_Dead_Sea_Scrolls?sm=a&rhid=40569818044"><u>https://www.academia.edu/82955757/Redating_the_Radiocarbon_Dating_of_The_Dead_Sea_Scrolls?sm=a&rhid=40569818044</u></a> </p><p>Is Moses the Author of the Pentateuch? Examining the Historical and Linguistic Perspectives</p><p><a href="https://www.academia.edu/104979347/Is_Moses_the_Author_of_the_Pentateuch_Examining_the_Historical_and_Linguistic_Perspectives"><u>https://www.academia.edu/104979347/Is_Moses_the_Author_of_the_Pentateuch_Examining_the_Historical_and_Linguistic_Perspectives</u></a> </p><p>SCRIPTURAL AUTHORITY IN EARLY JUDAISM - John C. Reeves, University of North Carolina at Charlotte</p><p><a href="https://www.academia.edu/4620470/Scriptural_Authority_in_Early_Judaism"><u>https://www.academia.edu/4620470/Scriptural_Authority_in_Early_Judaism</u></a> </p><p><br></p>
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Diving Deep Podcast with Charlie and Charly dive deep into subjects that some people aren't willing to discover, because they are unwilling to hear the truth.
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