An endless source of new ideas and approaches, creativity and affirmation for charitable gift planners. Episodes include interviews with expert planners and real-world experience with all types of charitable assets and vehicles. The host is Matt Treadwell, former CGP Emerging Professionals Chair, one-time champion youth basketball assistant coach, and your next superfriend. Brought to you by the National Association of Charitable Gift Planners. https://charitablegiftplanners.org
Dead Giveaway | Episode Twelve: A Conversation with Andy Hibel
From law school to legacy-building, dive deep into the world of planned giving in the latest episode of "Dead Giveaway," featuring Andy Hibel, COO and co-founder of HigherEdJobs, and co-founder of the Hibel Family Foundation.
During a conversation with podcast host Matt Treadwell, discover how Andy's journey from law school to philanthropy led to his commitment mentoring the next generation of planned giving officers. Dedicated to expanding access to planned giving for future generations, Andy shares the insights and initiatives behind establishing access and training for future planned giving officers.
A must-listen for anyone interested in the world of fundraising and charitable giving, tune in for the invaluable lessons and advice that have shaped his career.
20 Aug 2026
Dead Giveaway | Episode Ten: A Conversation with Phil Purcell
Host Matt Treadwell, Gift Planning Attorney at Indiana University Foundation and Adjunct Faculty at The Fund Raising School, is joined by Phil Purcell, Director of Planned Giving for Central Territory, Salvation Army.Explore Phil’s career in planned giving and nonprofit leadership through the pivotal moments and unexpected challenges to the rewarding successes that have defined his path. Whether you're a seasoned fundraiser or new to the sector, there's something in this conversation for everyone.
11 Jun 2026
Dead Giveaway | Episode Ten: A Conversation with Joe Bull
For the inaugural season finale of CGP’s podcast, “Dead Giveaway,” Matt Treadwell sits down with Joe Bull. Joe, principal counsel and founder of Philanthropy Advisory Counsel, LLC., was inducted into the CGP Hall of Fame in 2025 for his impactful, decades-long career, leading organizations nationwide.
From aspiring athletic director to a key figure in philanthropy and gift planning, this episode explores Joe’s thoughts on innovation, persistent learning and working for a greater cause.
Joe’s passion and dedication to the field is an inspiration to all. Listen now for a masterclass in navigating a philanthropic career.
14 May 2026
Dead Giveaway | Episode Nine: A Conversation with Dave Libengood
Dive into Dave Libengood’s unique journey during the next episode of “Dead Giveaway,” with host Matt Treadwell. From majoring in viola to becoming a leading figure in gift planning, Dave reveals his lessons learned, how he navigates challenges, and his passion for helping donors create impactful legacies.
Tune in to hear about his transition from corporate banking to fundraising, the joys of working with donors, and why dedicated efforts are crucial in both music and fundraising!
16 Apr 2026
Dead Giveaway | Episode Eight: A Conversation with Abigail Oduol
Meet Abigail Oduol, Senior Development Officer at EarthJustice. Drawing on a background in political science, Abigail has built a career rooted in equity, social justice and philanthropy. In episode eight of “Dead Giveaway,” Matt Treadwell is joined by Abigail for an inspiring interview about her journey. From asset-based community development, gift planning and more, Abigail’s insight will resonate with professionals at every level of their careers.
12 Mar 2026
Dead Giveaway | Episode Seven: A Conversation with Paul Caspersen
Dive into the world of planned giving with Paul Caspersen in the latest episode of “Dead Giveaway” with Matt Treadwell.
Discover how Paul transitioned from financial services to philanthropy, built impactful teams, and harnessed AI's potential in the nonprofit sector. This episode touches on the challenges, successes, and evolving dynamics of philanthropy. Explore Paul’s insights on building a robust planned giving program and nurturing high-performing teams.
Whether you're a seasoned pro or new to the field, this conversation is packed with valuable insights and actionable advice.
12 Feb 2026
Dead Giveaway | Episode Six, Part Two: A Conversation with Eileen Heisman
Continuing a special two-part episode, Matt Treadwell sits down with Eileen Heisman, one of philanthropy's most influential figures. From her early career in politics to building a $42 billion organization, Eileen reveals how authentic passion for making the world better has driven her work. Sharing her advice for new professionals and the dedication behind the work to get there, Eileen offers a glimpse into the lessons and insights gained through her transformative career.
Eileen’s journey is a masterclass in leadership, bold moves and strategic thinking. Tune in to hear how Eileen continues to make a difference across the industry and for professionals across the world.
15 Jan 2026
Dead Giveaway | Episode Six, Part One: A Conversation with Eileen Heisman
In the first of a special two-part episode, Matt Treadwell sits down with Eileen Heisman, one of philanthropy's most influential figures. From her early career in politics to building a $42 billion organization, Eileen reveals how authentic passion for making the world better has driven her work. Sharing her advice for new professionals and the dedication behind the work to get there, Eileen offers a glimpse into the lessons and insights gained through her transformative career.
Eileen’s journey is a masterclass in leadership, bold moves and strategic thinking. Tune in to hear how Eileen continues to make a difference across the industry and for professionals across the world.
11 Dec 2025
Dead Giveaway | Episode Five: A Conversation with Brantley Boyett
Podcast host Matt Treadwell welcomes Brantley Boyett, President of Giving Docs, for discussion on challenging industry norms. Brantley shares his mission to make estate planning accessible for all and the lessons and risks behind building Giving Docs. This episode offers valuable perspectives for gift planning officers, fundraisers and anyone passionate about creating a lasting impact.
Tune in to discover how legacy giving is transforming the way we think about philanthropy.
13 Nov 2025
Dead Giveaway | Episode Four: A Conversation with Craig Wruck
In this episode of “Dead Giveaway,” podcast host Matt Treadwell sits down with author of Planned Giving in a Nutshell, member of the CGP Hall of Fame, and leader in gift planning- Craig Wruck. Whether you’re an expert in the field or an emerging professional, tune in to hear about Craig’s journey in gift planning (in a nutshell).
9 Oct 2025
Dead Giveaway | Episode Three: A Conversation with Eddie Thompson
Searching for valuable insights on donor-centric strategies and the future of philanthropy? Hear new strategies for shaping legacies and making impactful gifts in the latest episode of "Dead Giveaway." Host Matt Treadwell sits down with guest Eddie Thompson, the CEO and founder of Thompson Associates.
11 Sept 2025
Dead Giveaway | Episode Two: A Conversation with Cherian Koshy
Join Matt Treadwell as he sits down with Cherian Koshy, VP at KindSight, for a thought-provoking discussion during the next episode of "Dead Giveaway." From his early days as a fundraiser to creating groundbreaking AI solutions for nonprofits, discover his remarkable journey from leaving college to leading nonprofit innovation.
This episode is perfect for those looking for insights into the power of philanthropy, learning from failures, and the role of AI in today's evolving landscape
14 Aug 2025
Dead Giveaway | Episode One: A Conversation with Nicole Engdahl
Podcast host Matthew Treadwell sits down with Nicole Engdahl for an inspiring conversation that begins our exploration of generosity, lasting legacies and the gift planning sector. Through Nicole’s wealth of experience and professional insights, listeners will discover new perspectives on philanthropy and the profound impact it can have on donors and the causes they support.
31 Jul 2025
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