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E2 Law Podcast
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June 30, 2026
Natural Hydrogen Leasing and Development: Legal Frameworks for an Emerging Frontier
<p class="MsoNormal">In this Energy Horizons episode of the Greenberg Traurig E2 Energy Law Podcast, host and of counsel Nikki Wise is joined by Bill Garner, co-chair of the firm's global Energy Practice, for a practical, lawyer-focused examination of the legal and contractual framework surrounding natural hydrogen exploration and production in the United States.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">The conversation begins with a comparison of traditional oil and gas leases and the emerging natural hydrogen-specific lease, walking listeners through the core provisions common to both: the granting clause, habendum clause, royalty clause, and delay rental provisions. Bill explains why the specific language of the granting clause is especially consequential for natural hydrogen, noting that whether hydrogen is covered by an existing oil and gas lease is far from settled and depends heavily on the precise contractual language used. Drawing on analogies to historical helium litigation, he cautions that companies exploring for hydrogen without clear title rights risk trespass claims, and that hydrogen must either be explicitly named or captured by sufficiently broad language such as "all gases."</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Bill then outlines the distinguishing features of hydrogen-specific leases, including the absence of an obligation to drill or produce during the primary term, the right to surrender the lease at any time, and the critical inclusion of provisions addressing environmental attributes such as carbon credits, government grants, and tax incentives, which he notes can be significant drivers of project economics.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">The discussion turns to practical development challenges unique to natural hydrogen, including the need for specialized equipment, hydrogen's distinct safety profile and its potential to cause steel pipeline embrittlement, regulatory gaps at the state and local level, and the still-developing market for hydrogen offtake. Bill also addresses transportation and storage considerations, covering dedicated pipelines versus tube trailers, federal Department of Transportation and pipeline regulations, rights-of-way acquisition, the feasibility of repurposing existing oil and gas pipelines, and storage options ranging from above-ground facilities to salt caverns.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">The episode closes with Bill's practical guidance for those looking to enter the natural hydrogen space: engage counsel experienced in both oil and gas law and hydrogen-specific issues, ensure leases explicitly address hydrogen rights, think through the full value chain from production to end use, and monitor the rapidly evolving federal, state, and local regulatory landscape.</p>
June 30, 2026
Natural Hydrogen in the Middle East: Geology, Law, and the Next Energy Frontier
<p class="xmsonormal">In this Energy Horizons episode of the Greenberg Traurig E2 Energy Law Podcast, host and of counsel Nikki Wise and Bill Garner, co-chair of the firm's global Energy Practice, examine one of 2026's most compelling emerging energy stories: the discovery and early-stage development of natural hydrogen, also known as white or geologic hydrogen, across the Middle East.</p> <p class="xmsonormal">Bill opens with an update on a landmark development in France, where Francaise De l'Energie has drilled the deepest well in the world specifically targeting natural hydrogen, reaching approximately 3,500 meters in the Lorraine region's abandoned coal mines. He then turns to the Middle East, where the unique geology of the region, including serpentinized ultramafic rock and ophiolitic formations, is generating significant exploration activity.</p> <p class="xmsonormal">The discussion highlights Oman as the region's clear first mover, with visible hydrogen seepage already documented, an MOU between SOHAR Port and Freezone and Swiss firm HYNAT, a US Department of Energy-backed project by GeoPower, and a recent exclusive evaluation agreement between Australian company HyTerra and ARA Natural Resources focused on the Samail Ophiolite. Bill notes that Oman's flexible petroleum law gives it a regulatory head start. The episode also covers Saudi Arabia's early-stage Aramco pilot investigations, and the UAE's establishment of a natural hydrogen research institute in Abu Dhabi, along with Irish company Decahydran's confirmed natural hydrogen well in Sharjah and its commercial partnerships with Weatherford International, Sharjah National Oil Company, and Siemens Energy.</p> <p class="xmsonormal">Bill and Nikki explore the legal and business dimensions of this emerging industry, noting that new regulatory frameworks, mining laws, environmental assessments, international trade agreements, and commercial contracts are effectively being written in real time, creating significant opportunities for legal practitioners and investors alike.</p> <p class="xmsonormal">The episode closes with a realistic look at the long timeline to commercialization and the geopolitical complexities affecting the region, before previewing the next episode, which will focus on natural hydrogen development and legal considerations in the United States.</p>
March 26, 2026
Natural Hydrogen in Europe: From Geologic Curiosity to Energy Frontier
<p class="MsoNormal">In this episode of Greenberg Traurig's E2 Energy Law Podcast, host Nikki Wise is joined by colleague Bill Garner, co-chair of the firm's global Energy Practice, for a focused look at natural hydrogen exploration and production in Europe.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Building on a prior episode examining U.S. developments, this conversation turns to a continent that has historically lacked significant onshore hydrocarbon reserves - and explores whether natural hydrogen could change that equation.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Bill explains how natural hydrogen, sometimes called white hydrogen, forms through geological processes deep within the earth's crust and why advances in subsurface imaging technology are only now making meaningful exploration possible.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">The discussion covers notable developments across France, Germany, Spain, Norway, and Finland, including France's emerging lead in the space with active exploration licenses and the first dedicated natural hydrogen well being drilled in the Lorraine basin.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Bill also highlights the work of Mantle8, a Grenoble-based geoscience company attracting significant investment with proprietary subsurface imaging technology.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">The episode addresses the practical and regulatory challenges ahead, including the physical properties of hydrogen that complicate extraction and transport, the absence of clear EU regulatory frameworks, and the economics of natural hydrogen compared to green and gray alternatives.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Bill offers insight on timelines for commercial viability, potential integration into Europe's planned hydrogen pipeline infrastructure, and why most policymakers view natural hydrogen as a complement to renewables rather than a competitor.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">The episode concludes with an assessment of why 2026 marks a meaningful inflection point in Europe's natural hydrogen story.</p>
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