April 12, 2026
Encounters with the Stone Woman
<p>One of the figures that we encounter in the Zen literature is the stone woman. In the Precious Mirror Samadhi we find her dancing, in another story she calls us back from our dream of the world.</p><p>In the study of the Mountains and Rivers Sutra, she shows up early on when Dogen quotes Furong Daokai. “The green mountains are always moving, a stone woman gives birth to a child at night.” He then comments on the stone woman, saying:</p><p><p>“A stone woman gives birth to a child at night” means that the moment when a barren woman gives birth to a child is called “night.” There are male stones, female stones, and nonmale, nonfemale stones. (13) They are placed in the sky and in the earth and are called heavenly stones and earthly stones. These are explained in the ordinary world, but not many people actually know about it. You should understand the meaning of giving birth to a child. At the moment of giving birth to a child, is the mother separate from the child? You should study not only that you become a mother when your child is born, but also that you become a child. (14) This is the actualization of giving birth in practice-realization. You should study and investigate this thoroughly.</p></p><p>So, who is this stone woman? Have you met her? Have you taken the time to hear the stories of the mountains, the stars, the river rocks, the stones you encounter on your walk? What is their experience of night? Of birth? Of silence, life, time and human?</p><p>The Stone Woman Speaks</p><p>There are stories told throughout the world, throughout time about the lives of mountains, stones, trees and the natural world. Stories of how the mountains were made. How the world was made, stories of creation. There are even stories of women being turned to stone. </p><p>When I was living in the Pacific Northwest, I learned some of the creation myths of the indigenous people who live in the region. In the telling, the local mountains have a prominent role. </p><p>The <a target="_blank" href="https://chinooknation.org/">Chinook</a> tell of Thunderbird laying eggs on top of Saddle Mountain, which an ogress will then throw down the Mountain, peopling the area.</p><p>The Klickitat story involves the formation of Wy’east (Mt. Hood), Pahto (Mt. Adams) and Loo-wit (Mt. St. Helen’s). In this story Loo-wit is a beautiful woman, who once guarded the first fire for the Great Spirit. Wy’east and Pahto were brother warriors who both fell in love with Loo-wit, and started fighting over her by spitting fireballs over the land. Eventually Great Spirit turned them into stone, mountain-volcanoes—banishing the Stone Woman Loo-wit up to the northern regions.</p><p>Do you know some of the stories about the mountains, rivers or landforms in your area? Or ones you have visited? Have you ever listened to or heard the story of a tree, rock, flower, river or some other being in the natural world?</p><p>During the <a target="_blank" href="https://zendust.org/calendar/1237/grasses-trees-2026/">Grasses and Trees Sesshin</a> at Great Vow Zen Monastery on the fourth full-day of the retreat we often invite participants to have sanzen with a being in the natural world. Sanzen, which means sitting zen together, is what we call the 1:1 practice meetings in Zen. We are invited to meet a blade of grass, a pond, a noble fire, sky with an open mind, a question, a willingness to listen and learn from. Often people come back with a story of transmission. Something happened in the encounter, often part of the practice involves a willingness to listen to the silence—for the natural world often doesn’t speak in human language.</p><p><strong>Mysterious Transmissions</strong></p><p>This image of the stone woman is also pointing to prajna paramita, the mother of all buddhas, wisdom beyond wisdom. To encounter the stone woman, is to meet the night, the darkness of not-knowing, the pure potential energy that we are—the great mystery. We are invited into the dark-unknowing, the womb of pure potential—where we become one with the wisdom of the ancestors, where we are born anew.</p><p><p>From this place our life emerges, from this place it is fulfilled. —Hongzhi</p></p><p>For more explorations of the stone woman giving birth at night, listen to the dharma talk. I would love to hear any reflections that you have. </p><p>It’s poetry month, and I am also exploring encounters with the stone woman through poetry.</p><p><strong>The Stone Woman Speaks</strong>(a poem)
the stone woman
lives in the foundation of my house
but also, in the potholed alley
the river bed
& on the rock face of the glen.
she who was
—before—
people, animal, name.
she who will be here
—after—
we are no longer.
she speaks in
cool, smooth
ancient sounds
the kind
that turn you around
and let you hear
the voice
of your own
—inner silence.</p><p><strong>Weekly Online Meditation Event</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.amykisei.org/meditation-circles">Monday Night Dharma</a> — 6P PT / 9P ET Join weekly for drop-in meditation and dharma talk. We are currently exploring the <a target="_blank" href="https://www.upaya.org/uploads/pdfs/MountainsRiversSutra.pdf">Mountains and Waters Sutra by Dogen Zenji.</a></p><p>Feel free to join anytime. Event lasts about 1.5 hours. <a target="_blank" href="https://us06web.zoom.us/j/82254519073">ZOOM LINK</a></p><p><strong>In-Person in Oregon</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://zendust.org/calendar/1180/may-sesshin-the-light-of-our-ancestors/">Light of the Ancestors Sesshin</a>—May 11 - 17 at Great Vow Zen Monastery</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://zendust.org/calendar/1237/grasses-trees-2026/">Grasses, Trees and the Great Earth</a> Sesshin— August 10 - 16 at Great Vow Zen Monastery</p><p><strong>In-Person in Columbus, Ohio through Mud Lotus Sangha</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.mudlotussangha.org/weekly-meditation">Weekly Meditations on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday</a></p><p>Retreats, Meditation instruction and other events can be found on our <a target="_blank" href="https://www.mudlotussangha.org/">website.</a></p><p><strong>Upcoming Sesshins at Saranam Retreat Center in West Virginia</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.mudlotussangha.org/events-classes/interbeing-sesshin-2026">Interdependence Sesshin</a> June 29 - July 5 (Registration is now open!)</p><p>I’m <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amykisei.org/">Amy Kisei</a>. I am a <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amykisei.org/zen-teacher">Zen Buddhist Teacher</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amykisei.org/11-counseling">Spiritual Counselor</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amykisei.org/astrology">Astrologer </a>and <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amykisei.org/art-shop">Artist</a>. I offer 1:1 Spiritual Counseling sessions using IFS and Hakomi (somatic mindfulness). I also offer astrology readings. <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amykisei.org/">Check out my website to learn more.</a> I currently live in Columbus, OH and am a supporting teacher for the <a target="_blank" href="https://www.mudlotussangha.org/">Mud Lotus Sangha</a>.</p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://amykisei.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2">amykisei.substack.com/subscribe</a>
