Ecosystem, Scale! with Aaron Taylor

About Ecosystem, Scale! with Aaron Taylor

Ecosystem, Scale! is a podcast exploring the strategies, stories, and systems that drive innovation ecosystems forward. This podcast is rooted in the startup community-building values - "Founder's First" and "Give First." Hosted by Aaron Taylor — startup attorney, venture professional, and ecosystem architect — the show peels back the unspoken truths of entrepreneurial communities to uncover what really fuels scale: collaboration, capital, culture, and connection. Each episode features candid conversations with founders, investors, ecosystem-builders, and institutional leaders across the U.S. and beyond. Together, presenting a mosaic of perspectives to discern best practices for building thriving startup communities, bridging silos, and unlocking equitable growth. Whether you’re a founder seeking momentum, a policymaker shaping regional competitiveness, or an ecosystem-builder searching for playbooks that work, Ecosystem, Scale! offers insights, frameworks, and practical tools to help you grow smarter, faster, and stronger.

Publisher

Aaron D. Taylor

Category

business

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

16 Sept 2025

Latest episode

15 May 2026

Latest episodes

12 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   15 May 2026

   (Bonus) "Who Owns the Narrative?": Storytelling in Startup Communities (From the Technical.ly Builders Conference)

   Recorded live from the Technical.ly (http://Technical.ly) Builders Conference in Philadelphia, this bonus episode of Ecosystem, Scale! explores an increasingly important layer of startup community infrastructure: Narrative. Joined by Chris Wink, cofounder and CEO of Technical.ly (http://Technical.ly), Aaron Taylor examines how storytelling, media, and ecosystem identity shape the trajectory of startup communities. Throughout the conversation, Chris argues that startup communities are not simply built through programs, capital, or institutions alone — but through the ongoing process of helping communities understand themselves and communicate that identity outward. Together, they explore how startup communities often generate significant activity without developing the shared narrative needed to make that momentum legible to founders, institutions, and capital. Using Philadelphia as a case study, the conversation examines storytelling as a form of ecosystem infrastructure — one shaped through media, openness, founder density, and ongoing community participation rather than centralized control. The episode also unpacks the tensions between traditional economic development and ecosystem-building, why this work still struggles for institutional legitimacy, and why startup communities ultimately operate as an “infinite game” requiring continuous coordination, visibility, and reinvention. About the Speaker Chris Wink is the cofounder and CEO of Technical.ly (http://Technical.ly), a media organization focused on connecting and strengthening startup and technology communities through journalism, events, and ecosystem storytelling. For nearly two decades, Technical.ly (http://Technical.ly) has examined how entrepreneurial ecosystems emerge, evolve, and communicate their identity across regions. Connect with him here: https://www.christopherwink.com/ (https://www.christopherwink.com/); linkedin.com/in/christopherwink (http://linkedin.com/in/christopherwink) Resources: https://technical.ly/ (https://technical.ly/)

2. 

   1 Apr 2026

   (Bonus) Meet the Host: From Builder to Architect

   This bonus episode of Ecosystem, Scale! is a step out of the usual. Instead of a structured conversation, this is a more open reflection — on the season, the patterns that emerged, and the shift from building within startup communities to thinking more deeply about the structures that shape them. Aaron sits down with guest host, Alexandria Taylor, to share his journey in ecosystem work, what he’s been learning through these conversations, and the evolving lens he’s bringing to the field. It’s less about answers . . . and more about how the questions are changing. If you’ve been following along this season, this episode offers a more personal look at the thinking behind Ecosystem, Scale! — and where it may be heading next. Thank you to all of our listeners for a momentous Season 1!!!!! About Our Host Aaron Taylor is a startup attorney, ecosystem architect, and the host of Ecosystem, Scale! — a platform at the intersection of founders, institutions, and the systems that connect them. Aaron’s work spans legal advisory, venture engagement, and startup community-building, where he has led initiatives, advised founders, and worked alongside institutions to strengthen how startup communities function and produce outcomes. His approach is rooted in identifying the structural gaps that limit progress and designing the infrastructure mechanisms that allow ecosystems to operate more effectively. Through Ecosystem, Scale!, Aaron is contributing to the emergence of ecosystem building as a field — surfacing patterns, translating across stakeholders, and helping define the frameworks that allow startup communities to function with greater clarity, alignment, and impact. Connect with him here: linkedin.com/in/aaron-d-taylor (http://linkedin.com/in/aaron-d-taylor) Connect with guest host Alexandria Taylor here: linkedin.com/in/alexandria-taylor-2ab815199 (http://linkedin.com/in/alexandria-taylor-2ab815199)

3. 

   16 Mar 2026

   Winning the Field: An Eagle-Eye View of Ecosystem-Building

   In the Season 1 finale of Ecosystem, Scale!, Aaron Taylor sits down with Andy Stoll, founding Executive Director of the ESHIP Alliance, for a wide-angle conversation about the emergence of entrepreneurial ecosystem building as a field of practice. Over the past two decades, ecosystem builders across the country have been quietly working to strengthen the environments where founders turn ideas into reality. What began as scattered community efforts is now beginning to organize into something larger: a professional field with its own practices, leadership models, and support structures. Andy offers an eagle-eye view of this movement zooming out to examine the national landscape of ecosystem building while also reflecting on the culture, relationships, and leadership required to make these communities thrive in practice. At its core, ecosystem building is a team sport a collaborative effort to move knowledge and resources from the people who have them to the entrepreneurs who need them at the right moment. This conversation closes the first season of Ecosystem, Scale! by zooming out to ask a bigger question: What happens when the builders themselves begin to organize into a field? About Our Speaker Andy Stoll is a serial social entrepreneur and the founding Executive Director of the ESHIP Alliance, a national initiative working to advance entrepreneurial ecosystem building as a recognized profession and coordinated field. Over the past two decades, Andy has co-founded multiple social change organizations and helped pioneer community-driven approaches to entrepreneurship, innovation, and economic development. Previously, Andy served as a Senior Program Officer at the Ewing Marion Kauffman Foundation, where he helped advance entrepreneur-led economic development and ecosystem building as an emerging practice. His work focuses on participatory, network-based approaches to social change that combine entrepreneurship, storytelling, culture-building, and community leadership. Andy is a sought-after speaker and facilitator who has appeared at SXSW, TEDx events, universities, and conferences around the world, and his work has been featured in The New York Times, The Washington Post, and The Wall Street Journal. Connect with him here: linkedin.com/in/andystoll (http://linkedin.com/in/andystoll) Resources: https://www.kauffman.org/ecosystem-playbook-draft-3/eship-goals/ (https://www.kauffman.org/ecosystem-playbook-draft-3/eship-goals/) https://eship-commons.mn.co/spaces/18645947/feed (https://eship-commons.mn.co/spaces/18645947/feed) https://www.startupchampions.co/ (https://www.startupchampions.co/) https://www.seedthesouth.com/ (https://www.seedthesouth.com/) $50 off code for Seed the South Capital Summit: STS26-CEDAR-50

4. 

   27 Feb 2026

   Signaling Scale: Tools and Frameworks for Ecosystem Architecture

   In this episode of Ecosystem, Scale!, Aaron Taylor is joined by Amy Beaird for a deep dive into the tools, language, and systems thinking shaping the future of ecosystem architecture. Drawing on her background in engineering and decades of startup R&D leadership, Amy brings a practical lens to one of the field’s biggest challenges: making the invisible work of ecosystem-building visible, measurable, and defensible. Together, they explore the concept of signals — evidence of strategic progress that shows when ecosystems are moving beyond activity toward real capability and alignment. The conversation unpacks how frameworks like the Ecosystem Edge scorecard help regions understand their stage of development, align stakeholders, and communicate long-term value to funders and partners. Amy also shares insights on governance, shared leadership, diverse funding strategies, and the ongoing tension between organic emergence and intentional architecture. This episode is for ecosystem builders, funders, institutional leaders, and practitioners who want to move from reactive programming to durable systems — and who are looking for practical ways to strengthen alignment, storytelling, and long-term sustainability in their communities. About the Speaker Amy Beaird is a systems-oriented ecosystem builder and co-founder of Ecosystem Edge. With a career spanning engineering, startup R&D leadership, and regional ecosystem strategy, she focuses on developing practical tools and frameworks that help practitioners measure progress, align stakeholders, and build sustainable innovation infrastructure. Amy is also an active contributor to the broader field through initiatives like the ESHIP Alliance and her work supporting regional innovation strategies across the country. Connect with her here: linkedin.com/in/abeaird (http://linkedin.com/in/abeaird) Resources https://ecosystem-edge.com/ (https://ecosystem-edge.com/) https://engine.xyz/ (https://engine.xyz/) https://eship-commons.mn.co/spaces/18645947/feed (https://eship-commons.mn.co/spaces/18645947/feed)

5. 

   13 Feb 2026

   Beyond the Spark: Building Sustainable, Socially-Rich Ecosystems

   In this episode of Ecosystem, Scale!, Aaron sits down with Jess Edwards for a conversation that explores how relationships, trust, and lived experience shape the way innovation ecosystems actually function for sustainable ecosystem design. Jess shares insights from her work across multiple communities, offering a “tour-guide” perspective on how ecosystems evolve, what strong social capital looks like in practice, and why sustainability requires more than programs and new funding cycles. Together, they examine how ecosystems move from connections to structure — and how intentional design can turn momentum into lasting impact. This conversation is especially relevant for ecosystem builders, funders, and community leaders seeking to better understand how human relationships become the infrastructure that allows innovation to thrive over time. About the Speaker Jess Edwards is a project-based innovation ecosystem builder and systems thinker known for her work connecting entrepreneurs to the resources, relationships, and opportunities they need to grow. She has been recognized for her ability to build and leverage relational (social) capital to strengthen entrepreneurial communities and increase ecosystem interconnectedness across the globe. Connect with her here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edwardsja/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/edwardsja/) Resources: https://www.jessedwards.com/ (https://www.jessedwards.com/) https://www.socialcapitalresearch.com/ (https://www.socialcapitalresearch.com/) https://www.socialcapitalresearch.com/?s=entrepreneurship (https://www.socialcapitalresearch.com/?s=entrepreneurship)

6. 

   25 Jan 2026

   Lifting the Corporate Veil: Readying the Ecosystem for Corporate Partnerships

   In this episode of Ecosystem, Scale!, Aaron Taylor is joined by Antoine Woods, Senior Lead on Chick-fil-A’s external R&D and innovation team, and Terrance Orr, founder of Next Anomaly Group and entrepreneur-in-residence. Together, they lift the corporate veil to explore how large organizations actually engage with innovation ecosystems — and what must be true before community-corporate partnerships and founder–corporate partnerships can succeed. The conversation reveals strategic insights like how innovation functions inside corporates, the structure and constraints of corporate innovation teams, why readiness matters more than access or logos, and why founders should always be compensated for pilots and proofs of concept. This episode is essential for founders, ecosystem builders, and corporate leaders seeking more aligned and sustainable approaches to corporate–startup collaboration. About Our Speakers Antoine Woods a global innovation leader at Chick-fil-A, serving as a Senior Lead on the company’s external R&D and innovation team — where he identifies and partners with startups to solve core business challenges. A former programmer, entrepreneur, and venture partner, Antoine brings deep experience in startup ecosystems, founder support, and cross-sector innovation. He is known for bridging founder mindset with corporate strategy and for championing relationships that deposit more into people than they withdraw. Connect with him here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/antoinewoodsjr/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/antoinewoodsjr/) Terrance Orr is the founder and CEO of Next Anomaly Group, an investment, advisory, and ecosystem development firm focused on helping founders, family offices, and corporates navigate innovation and venture strategy. A seasoned ecosystem builder, corporate innovation advisor, and co-host of the EIR Live podcast, Terrance has advised startup leaders, corporate innovation teams, and investors on building ventures, strategic partnerships, and entrepreneurial capacity across industries and geographies. Connect with him here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terranceorr/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/terranceorr/) Resources: https://www.linkedin.com/company/next-anomaly/ (https://www.linkedin.com/company/next-anomaly/) https://podcast.eir.live/ (https://podcast.eir.live/) https://engage.vc/ (https://engage.vc/) https://joinhomegrown.com/ (https://joinhomegrown.com/)

7. 

   2 Jan 2026

   The Missing Infrastructure: Reimagining Economic Development for Inclusive Innovation

   In this episode of Ecosystem, Scale!, Aaron is joined by Mike Green and Johnathan Holifield for a timely conversation on economic development, innovation, and equity. They unpack the history and limits of “big game” economic development—strategies that prioritize national competitiveness and large-scale growth—while confronting a persistent reality: many communities, particularly Black America, remain disconnected from the modern innovation economy. Introducing the framework of inclusive competitiveness, Mike and Johnathan challenge how success is defined and measured, and offer new ways to think about ecosystem design, connectivity, and long-term impact. This episode is essential listening for ecosystem builders, economic developers, founders, and policymakers working to build innovation systems that are not only competitive—but inclusive by design. About the Speakers Mike Green is a cultural economist, consultant, and strategist focused on inclusive competitiveness and systemic equity within economic and innovation ecosystems. He has served as Chief Strategist at the National Institute for Inclusive Competitiveness and is co-founder of Common Ground Conversations on Race in America, a paradigm-shifting process that helps institutional and community leaders build shared understanding and productive dialogue across divides. Mike has worked extensively on designing strategies that address entrenched racial and economic disparities and has co-authored a playbook for improving diversity and inclusion in entrepreneurship centers. HBCU Making and Innovation Initiative (https://iie.aaas.org/speakers-listing/2021/9/17/mike-green?utm_source=chatgpt.com) Connect with him here: linkedin.com/in/amikegreen2 (http://linkedin.com/in/amikegreen2) Johnathan Holifield is an ecosystem-builder, attorney, author, and architect of the Inclusive Competitiveness framework — a strategy that links economic inclusion, innovation, and national competitiveness. He has brought this vision to life through roles spanning public policy, regional economic strategy, and venture formation, including serving as Executive Director of the White House Initiative on HBCUs and co-founding ScaleUp Partners, a consultancy advancing competitive, equitable economic systems. His book The Future Economy and Inclusive Competitiveness reframes how we think about economic development and innovation as tools for broad-based prosperity. Connect with him here: linkedin.com/in/thetrimtabber (http://linkedin.com/in/thetrimtabber) Resources: https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/public-sector/our-insights/the-economic-impact-of-closing-the-racial-wealth-gap (https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/public-sector/our-insights/the-economic-impact-of-closing-the-racial-wealth-gap) https://commongroundconversations.com/ (https://commongroundconversations.com/) https://www.amazon.com/Future-Economy-Inclusive-Competitiveness-Demographic/dp/0692877703 (https://www.amazon.com/Future-Economy-Inclusive-Competitiveness-Demographic/dp/0692877703)

8. 

   31 Dec 2025

   Anchoring Innovation: Higher Ed's Role in Growing Founder- First Ecosystems

   Higher education is often described as an anchor institution in innovation ecosystems—but what does that really mean in practice? In this episode of Ecosystem, Scale!, Aaron Taylor is joined by Almesha Campbell, Vice President for Research and Economic Development at Jackson State University, and Jim Woodell, Founder of Venn Collaborative and co-creator of the CCube framework, for a comprehensive, real-world conversation about the evolving role of universities in startup communities and regional innovation ecosystems. Together, they share how higher education institutions can move beyond symbolic participation to become active, trusted contributors to ecosystem growth. The conversation examines the language gaps, cultural barriers, and internal flows that often slow collaboration—while also highlighting the immense and underutilized assets universities bring to founders, entrepreneurs, and communities. Key themes include: What it truly means for universities to function as anchor institutions Why transparency, trust, and shared language matter more than programs alone How structured conversations can unlock collaboration across silos The shift from transactional partnerships to sustained, network-based ecosystems Why a “boundaryless mindset” is essential for long-term ecosystem resilience This episode is essential listening for founders, ecosystem builders, higher education leaders, economic developers, and policymakers seeking to better understand how universities fit into the broader innovation landscape—and how to engage them more effectively. Rather than offering quick fixes, this conversation invites listeners to rethink collaboration as a shared responsibility built on relationships, contribution, and intentional design. About the Speakers Almesha Campbell is the immediate past Chairwoman of AUTM and Vice President for Research and Economic Development at Jackson State University, where she bridges research, innovation, and community impact. With deep experience in advancing institutional collaboration and inclusive ecosystem engagement, Almesha focuses on aligning university assets—talent, research, and infrastructure—with regional innovation priorities and community needs. Connect with her here: linkedin.com/in/almeshalcampbell (http://linkedin.com/in/almeshalcampbell) Jim Woodell Jim Woodell is the founder of Venn Collaborative, a partnership-focused consultancy that helps universities and ecosystem stakeholders improve collaboration with external partners for economic and community impact. He co-developed the CCube structured conversation framework to support alignment, shared language, and actionable strategy across diverse ecosystem actors. Connect with him here: https://linktr.ee/JimWoodell (https://linktr.ee/JimWoodell) Resources: https://www.ccube.tools/ (https://www.ccube.tools/) https://www.ptie.org/ (https://www.ptie.org/) https://autm.net/ (https://autm.net/)

9. 

   7 Nov 2025

   A Founders-First Financing Conversation - Beyond Venture Capital

   In this episode, Aaron Taylor sits down with Himalaya Rao-Potlapally, a venture capitalist, ecosystem-builder, and advocate for inclusive finance, to explore what it means to fund founders differently. Himalaya shares her journey from social work to venture capital, revealing how necessity-driven entrepreneurship shaped her approach to investing and community impact. Together, Aaron and Himalaya unpack the limits of traditional VC culture and discuss alternative funding models that honor organic growth and broaden who benefits from innovation. They also highlight the importance of trust-based relationships and redefining success on founders’ own terms. This conversation invites listeners to look beyond venture capital toward a more restorative, human-centered vision of funding entrepreneurship. Resources & Mentions BFM Fund (https://bfm.fund) — investing in exceptional Black-led startups VC Partners Fund (https://vcpartners.org) — supporting diverse innovation leaders Restorative Finance Academy — launching in 2026, featuring macroeconomic training, solidarity-economy education, and alternative-finance design https://vilcap.com/our-tools (https://vilcap.com/our-tools) About Himalaya Rao-Potlapally Himalaya Rao-Potlapally is a managing partner, investor, and ecosystem strategist whose work bridges venture capital, impact investing, and economic development. She advocates for restorative finance and equitable wealth creation through community-anchored entrepreneurship. Connect with her here, linkedin.com/in/himalayarao (http://linkedin.com/in/himalayarao)

10. 

    18 Oct 2025

    A Conversation on Founder-First Leadership with Chris Heivly

    In this episode of Ecosystem, Scale!, Aaron Taylor sits down with Chris Heivly — Managing Director of Build the Fort, co-founder of MapQuest, former Techstars Exec, investor and startup community-builder — to break down what it really takes to lead a founder-first startup ecosystem. Chris argues that thriving innovation communities aren’t built through hierarchy, big budgets, or recycled playbooks from Silicon Valley — they’re built through trust, connection, and relentless service to founders. He shares how ecosystem builders can earn credibility, avoid the trap of copying other cities, and focus on the simple, repeatable actions that grow real startup momentum. This conversation is a masterclass in ecosystem leadership mindset — practical, honest, and rooted in decades of experience. 🔗 Learn More Explore Chris’s work, books, and thought leadership at https://heivly.com (https://heivly.com) — a must-follow resource for anyone serious about startup community building.

11. 

    3 Oct 2025

    Fundamentals of Ecosystem-building: Love of People, Process, and Place

    In this episode, Aaron sits down with Charlton Cunningham, an Atlanta-based ecosystem builder and current Ecosystem Navigator for the Continuum project, to explore the evolution of startup community building. Charlton shares their journey from architecture graduate to ecosystem leader, highlighting how trust, people-first programming, and authentic storytelling are reshaping how communities support founders. Together, they unpack the undervalued work of relationship-building, the consequences of not putting founders first, and why ecosystem builders must balance quantitative metrics with qualitative stories to truly measure impact. Charlton also offers hard-won lessons on programming rooted in community listening and love of place. Listeners will come away with a deeper understanding of why ecosystems “move at the speed of trust,” how to build equitable and founder-first support structures, and what it takes to sustain entrepreneurship in emerging communities over the long term. About the Speaker Charlton Cunningham is an ecosystem builder based in Atlanta, GA. They currently serve as Ecosystem Navigator for the Continuum project, which supports ocean tech entrepreneurs, and have played pivotal roles at Startup Atlanta and HiveATL. Charlton is also an active voice in national ecosystem building networks, helping shape the profession’s future through organizations like the ESHIP Alliance. https://www.linkedin.com/in/charltonc/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/charltonc/) https://www.charltoncunningham.com/ (https://www.charltoncunningham.com/)

12. 

    16 Sept 2025

    EcoMap and the Power of Mapping Ecosystems

    Summary In this episode, Aaron Taylor welcomes Kevin Carter, Director of Ecosystem Success at EcoMap Technologies, to explore how mapping drives more competitive and scalable ecosystems. Kevin shares the story of EcoMap’s late founder, Pava LaPere, and her vision to make entrepreneurial resources more discoverable. Together, Aaron and Kevin dive into the distinctions between startup communities and innovation ecosystems, highlight the five core stakeholders every ecosystem depends on, and discuss how shared mapping tools create the infrastructure for collaboration, momentum, and impact. Key Topics & Highlights Origins of EcoMap Technologies EcoMap was founded by Pava LaPere while a student at Johns Hopkins University. Frustrated by the lack of support for student entrepreneurs, she first created a student-run incubator and later built an Airtable map of the Baltimore tech ecosystem. That grassroots project evolved into EcoMap Technologies, now a leading platform for mapping startup and innovation ecosystems. Defining the Ecosystem Kevin Carter explains the difference between a startup community (focused on founders and their immediate support needs) and the broader innovation ecosystem (which includes research institutions, support organizations, higher ed, and tech transfer). EcoMap’s tools help communities define and categorize resources in ways that align with their own local language and priorities. Ecosystem Mapping & Infrastructure Ecosystem mapping is about understanding the assets—organizations, resources, and events—that make up a community. Kevin stresses that mapping isn’t the only way to engage, but it’s a critical tool for making information accessible, current, and trusted. EcoMap doesn’t map individuals, but rather the organizations and resources that form the ecosystem’s infrastructure. The Five Core Stakeholders Every startup community relies on five stakeholder groups: Founders Entrepreneurial support professionals Investors (angels & VCs) Service providers (legal, accounting, marketing, etc.) Startup employees Together, they create the value flows that keep communities alive. Resources linkedin.com/in/kevin-carter-594571a5 (http://linkedin.com/in/kevin-carter-594571a5) https://ecomap.tech/solutions/ecosystem-relationship-manager/ (https://ecomap.tech/solutions/ecosystem-relationship-manager/)

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