Epoch AI is a non-profit research institute investigating the future of artificial intelligence. We examine the driving forces behind AI and forecast its economic and societal impact. In this podcast, our team shares insights from our research and discusses the evolving landscape of AI.

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Epoch AI is a non-profit research institute investigating the future of artificial intelligence. We examine the driving forces behind AI and forecast its economic and societal impact. In this podcast, our team shares insights from our research and discusses the evolving landscape of AI.
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Recent Episodes

May 1, 2026
Are AI benchmarks doomed?
<p>AI benchmarks saturate quickly, struggle to capture what we care about, and cost more than ever to build. But are they doomed? Greg Burnham, who leads Epoch's benchmarking team, and Tom Adamczewski, who developed MirrorCode, push back on the pessimism and dig into what the next generation of AI benchmarks could look like.</p>

January 29, 2026
AI math capabilities could be jagged for a long time – Daniel Litt
<p><br>Daniel Litt is a professor of mathematics at the University of Toronto. He has been a careful observer of AI’s progress toward accelerating mathematical discovery, sometimes skeptical and sometimes enthusiastic. </p><p><br>Topics we cover: the hardest problems models can solve today, whether there is convincing evidence that AI is speeding up math research, and what’s missing before AI might have a shot at solving Millennium Prize problems.</p><p><br>We also discuss how to measure progress in math, including Epoch AI’s new FrontierMath: <a href="https://epoch.ai/frontiermath/open-problems">Open Problems</a> benchmark which evaluates models on meaningful unsolved math research problems.<br></p>

December 18, 2025
The EU and the not-so-simple macroeconomics of AI - Luis Garicano
Professor Luis Garicano discusses the EU's response to AI developments, the potential disruption of entry-level worker training, and the issues with the EU AI Act in an interview with Andrei Potlogea and Anson Ho.
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